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Re: Santa Fe Fe-24 and Fe-28 photos

Thomas Birkett
 

When I was doing time studies on repair of wrecks in Topeka Shops in the 1970s,  I was surprised to see odd holes punched ( not burned with a torch) in the body bolsters of FE-24s. A little investigation led me to former passenger service assignments. Seems like I was also able to find where the brackets had been removed that held up the end valves and piping. All of the Allied Full Coil trucks were gone by this time.
Tom Birkett, Bartlesville


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From: John Barry <northbaylines@...>
Date: 4/25/20 10:07 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Santa Fe Fe-24 and Fe-28 photos

Oh, but they do!  

The Fe-24s numbered 4100-4399 carried the BX mechanical designation with a note that they were equipped for high speed passenger service with steel wheels, steam and signal lines.

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736


On Saturday, April 25, 2020, 10:24:51 AM EDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



You sure about that Jim ? None of these cars have steam or signal lines.


On 4/25/2020 2:04 AM, Jim Gates via groups.io wrote:

Specifically, the 200 Fe-24 delivered for passenger service came with the Allied Full Cushion. The other 300 came with Barber S2 trucks. When 100 of these were modified for passenger service some got A-3 trucks. And most of the original passenger service cars either traded with the remaining freight ones or received A-3 trucks. All the Allied full Cushions disappeared in the late 40s. There are pictures of Fe-24 cars with other experimental trucks in the late 40s, these were short lived one shots.

Jim Gates
On Friday, April 24, 2020, 05:59:04 PM CDT, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:


Todd Sullivan wrote:

I have been looking on the web for several days trying to find clear photos of Santa Fe's class Fe-24 and Fe-28 50' double door boxcars.  I have a kit for each (P2K for Fe-24, Branchline for Fe-28), and I need to know what kind of trucks each one had, and check out other details before I proceed with the builds.

    The FE-24 cars got ASF A-3 trucks later (many were delivered with Allied Full Cushion). The -28s were delivered with A-3. This from the Hendrickson book on ATSF auto cars.

Tony Thompson


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Santa Fe Fe-24 and Fe-28 photos

John Barry
 

Oh, but they do!  

The Fe-24s numbered 4100-4399 carried the BX mechanical designation with a note that they were equipped for high speed passenger service with steel wheels, steam and signal lines.

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736


On Saturday, April 25, 2020, 10:24:51 AM EDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



You sure about that Jim ? None of these cars have steam or signal lines.


On 4/25/2020 2:04 AM, Jim Gates via groups.io wrote:

Specifically, the 200 Fe-24 delivered for passenger service came with the Allied Full Cushion. The other 300 came with Barber S2 trucks. When 100 of these were modified for passenger service some got A-3 trucks. And most of the original passenger service cars either traded with the remaining freight ones or received A-3 trucks. All the Allied full Cushions disappeared in the late 40s. There are pictures of Fe-24 cars with other experimental trucks in the late 40s, these were short lived one shots.

Jim Gates
On Friday, April 24, 2020, 05:59:04 PM CDT, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:


Todd Sullivan wrote:

I have been looking on the web for several days trying to find clear photos of Santa Fe's class Fe-24 and Fe-28 50' double door boxcars.  I have a kit for each (P2K for Fe-24, Branchline for Fe-28), and I need to know what kind of trucks each one had, and check out other details before I proceed with the builds.

    The FE-24 cars got ASF A-3 trucks later (many were delivered with Allied Full Cushion). The -28s were delivered with A-3. This from the Hendrickson book on ATSF auto cars.

Tony Thompson


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Santa Fe Fe-24 and Fe-28 photos

Tim O'Connor
 


Here's one in 1962


On 4/25/2020 10:38 AM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:
Don,

D&H had 10 50-foot double-door boxcars in series 25000-25009. These were ex-PRR cars. I don't know when the D&H bought them, but they are in my October 1958 ORER. They had special racks for automobile radiators, in other words, in auto parts service. One is preserved on the Cooperstown & Charlotte Valley. My photo was taken in the early 1990s when the museum equipment was stored in Oneonta.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff 🦆

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 8:56 AM Donald B. Valentine via groups.io <riverman_vt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
     With Todd having raised questions about the Santa Fe's 50 ft. Auto/Furniture cars I'd like to raise some
further questions. When I was in high school I used to keep a record of the reporting marks and car numbers
of none home road cars I saw at various points within New England and now wish they had been saved. The 
specific reason for this today is that I do not remember seeing that many 50 ft.cars of any type in Northern
New England. Logically it would seem that automobiles being delivered to dealerships in smaller towns in the
region could have come in either 40 or 50 Auto cars. That said it would also seem that the 50 ft. auto cars 
used wo;d have been from roads like the GTW, NYC, Erie and possibly a few LV cars. Did the PM, DT&I,
AA or Wabash even roster such cars? The PM had some 50 ft. cars but they were largeky restricted for 
the PM"s Canadian lines having been constructed in Canada.The DT&I had over 200 50 ft. auto cars some 
of which were set up to handle auto parts and could have gone to the Ford Assembly plant in Somerville or 
the GMC plant in Framingham, MA  but I don't know that for certain. I have fnd n record for the AA having any 
50 ft. box cars while the Wabash had some 150 auto cars or 50 ft. in length 25 of which were even equipped 
with end doors but Wabash cars in my experience were a rare  car in Northern New England. Can anyone 
speak definitively about this? If cars from other roads of this specific design were to be found in the region 
what is a likely cargo for them? I realize there were some 50 ft. cars of lumber received from the Pacific 
Northwest but the only 50 ft. cars I remember in this service were No. Pac. cars purchased 2nd hand of the 
Pennsy's round roof variety, the last such car I saw having been in Arlington, Mass. in 1972, 25 years after the 
period I model. It would seem that Sou. Pac. or UP cars of this type might be a possibility with lumber out of 
Oregon but I can't think what a Santa Fe car, for example, might have carried. Who might have some thoughts 
for loads in cars of this type from Western roads?

My est, Don Valentine



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: boxcars can be lined up on two tracks

Scott
 

Do you know the date of that photo James?

Scott McDonald 


Re: Santa Fe Fe-24 and Fe-28 photos

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Don,

D&H had 10 50-foot double-door boxcars in series 25000-25009. These were ex-PRR cars. I don't know when the D&H bought them, but they are in my October 1958 ORER. They had special racks for automobile radiators, in other words, in auto parts service. One is preserved on the Cooperstown & Charlotte Valley. My photo was taken in the early 1990s when the museum equipment was stored in Oneonta.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff 🦆

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 8:56 AM Donald B. Valentine via groups.io <riverman_vt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
     With Todd having raised questions about the Santa Fe's 50 ft. Auto/Furniture cars I'd like to raise some
further questions. When I was in high school I used to keep a record of the reporting marks and car numbers
of none home road cars I saw at various points within New England and now wish they had been saved. The 
specific reason for this today is that I do not remember seeing that many 50 ft.cars of any type in Northern
New England. Logically it would seem that automobiles being delivered to dealerships in smaller towns in the
region could have come in either 40 or 50 Auto cars. That said it would also seem that the 50 ft. auto cars 
used wo;d have been from roads like the GTW, NYC, Erie and possibly a few LV cars. Did the PM, DT&I,
AA or Wabash even roster such cars? The PM had some 50 ft. cars but they were largeky restricted for 
the PM"s Canadian lines having been constructed in Canada.The DT&I had over 200 50 ft. auto cars some 
of which were set up to handle auto parts and could have gone to the Ford Assembly plant in Somerville or 
the GMC plant in Framingham, MA  but I don't know that for certain. I have fnd n record for the AA having any 
50 ft. box cars while the Wabash had some 150 auto cars or 50 ft. in length 25 of which were even equipped 
with end doors but Wabash cars in my experience were a rare  car in Northern New England. Can anyone 
speak definitively about this? If cars from other roads of this specific design were to be found in the region 
what is a likely cargo for them? I realize there were some 50 ft. cars of lumber received from the Pacific 
Northwest but the only 50 ft. cars I remember in this service were No. Pac. cars purchased 2nd hand of the 
Pennsy's round roof variety, the last such car I saw having been in Arlington, Mass. in 1972, 25 years after the 
period I model. It would seem that Sou. Pac. or UP cars of this type might be a possibility with lumber out of 
Oregon but I can't think what a Santa Fe car, for example, might have carried. Who might have some thoughts 
for loads in cars of this type from Western roads?

My est, Don Valentine




Re: Santa Fe Fe-24 and Fe-28 photos

Tim O'Connor
 


Don,

There's nothing wrong with the questions, but it occurs to me that you
could answer these questions for yourself with Equipment Registers.



On 4/25/2020 8:56 AM, Donald B. Valentine via groups.io wrote:
     With Todd having raised questions about the Santa Fe's 50 ft. Auto/Furniture cars I'd like to raise some
further questions. When I was in high school I used to keep a record of the reporting marks and car numbers
of none home road cars I saw at various points within New England and now wish they had been saved. The 
specific reason for this today is that I do not remember seeing that many 50 ft.cars of any type in Northern
New England. Logically it would seem that automobiles being delivered to dealerships in smaller towns in the
region could have come in either 40 or 50 Auto cars. That said it would also seem that the 50 ft. auto cars 
used wo;d have been from roads like the GTW, NYC, Erie and possibly a few LV cars. Did the PM, DT&I,
AA or Wabash even roster such cars? The PM had some 50 ft. cars but they were largeky restricted for 
the PM"s Canadian lines having been constructed in Canada.The DT&I had over 200 50 ft. auto cars some 
of which were set up to handle auto parts and could have gone to the Ford Assembly plant in Somerville or 
the GMC plant in Framingham, MA  but I don't know that for certain. I have fnd n record for the AA having any 
50 ft. box cars while the Wabash had some 150 auto cars or 50 ft. in length 25 of which were even equipped 
with end doors but Wabash cars in my experience were a rare  car in Northern New England. Can anyone 
speak definitively about this? If cars from other roads of this specific design were to be found in the region 
what is a likely cargo for them? I realize there were some 50 ft. cars of lumber received from the Pacific 
Northwest but the only 50 ft. cars I remember in this service were No. Pac. cars purchased 2nd hand of the 
Pennsy's round roof variety, the last such car I saw having been in Arlington, Mass. in 1972, 25 years after the 
period I model. It would seem that Sou. Pac. or UP cars of this type might be a possibility with lumber out of 
Oregon but I can't think what a Santa Fe car, for example, might have carried. Who might have some thoughts 
for loads in cars of this type from Western roads?

My est, Don Valentine


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Santa Fe Fe-24 and Fe-28 photos

Tim O'Connor
 


You sure about that Jim ? None of these cars have steam or signal lines.


On 4/25/2020 2:04 AM, Jim Gates via groups.io wrote:
Specifically, the 200 Fe-24 delivered for passenger service came with the Allied Full Cushion. The other 300 came with Barber S2 trucks. When 100 of these were modified for passenger service some got A-3 trucks. And most of the original passenger service cars either traded with the remaining freight ones or received A-3 trucks. All the Allied full Cushions disappeared in the late 40s. There are pictures of Fe-24 cars with other experimental trucks in the late 40s, these were short lived one shots.

Jim Gates
On Friday, April 24, 2020, 05:59:04 PM CDT, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:


Todd Sullivan wrote:

I have been looking on the web for several days trying to find clear photos of Santa Fe's class Fe-24 and Fe-28 50' double door boxcars.  I have a kit for each (P2K for Fe-24, Branchline for Fe-28), and I need to know what kind of trucks each one had, and check out other details before I proceed with the builds.

    The FE-24 cars got ASF A-3 trucks later (many were delivered with Allied Full Cushion). The -28s were delivered with A-3. This from the Hendrickson book on ATSF auto cars.

Tony Thompson


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: boxcars can be lined up on two tracks

Brian Termunde
 

Interesting the spacing between cars, I would have thought that they would have remained coupled.

Great photo BTW, thanks for sharing it.

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah


Re: boxcars can be lined up on two tracks
From: James SANDIFER
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 19:33:50 PDT
Standard procedure at freight houses.
 
 
J. Stephen Sandifer
 
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Re: ASM Chrysler trucks (was WP Boxcar 20807)

Tim O'Connor
 

Fred

They're very pretty - have you ROLL TESTED them? Some brass trucks roll well.

And many don't roll worth a damn. So which are these? ;-)

Tim O'Connor

On 4/24/2020 4:15 PM, Fred Jansz wrote:
American Scale Models.
Fred Jansz
https://americanscalemodels.com/HO/HO_Detail_Parts/Trucks?product_id=1855
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: Photo: WP Boxcar 20807

Tim O'Connor
 


I faked the underframe - but the decals more than made up for it in difficulty :-D



On 4/24/2020 2:01 PM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:
Brian and Friends,

AFAIK, besides 19537, the only other experimental cars on the WP were two 40' PS-1s with 6' doors, numbered 1952-1953. These had two versions of Pullman's early cushioned underframe. These were leased by the WP circa 1952 for in-service testing (they don't show in Ed Hawkins' list of PS-1 boxcars, probably because they were built on a Pullman work order to their own account rather than a sales order). They were painted orange with a medium-silver feather to the right of the door (MDC once did this scheme on their rather horrid 40' boxcar). Eventually the WP bought the two cars. One was wrecked, but the other lasted through the 1960s. 

The 1954 cars you mentioned were probably not experiments. These were 40' PS-1s with 8' doors, Compartmentizers and cushioned underframes, numbered 1961-1970. They were painted orange with the huge silver feather, basically a reversal of the silver cars, and apparently had black ends and roofs. In 1959 the cars received DF-2 restrainers, and were repainted into the medium orange feather scheme that that 19501-19542 wore after 1957.

One reason these and the 19501-series were not repeated was that in late 1954 the WP was committed to 50' boxcars. The only other 40' boxcars the WP purchased were AC&F-built 3421-3422, with DF-2 loaders and 8' doors delivered in 1960. These were specifically built for appliance loading out of Galesburg, Illinois.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:05 AM Brian Carlson via groups.io <prrk41361=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Shoot. That’s what I get for posting before I’m fully awake. Fred you’re right these just had compartmentizers. I got them confused with the 1954 cars with the cushion under frame. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:08 AM, Fred Jansz <fred@...> wrote:

Didn't know this was an experimental car.
As far as I know WP 20801-20820 was a regular 1951 PS-1 order with an experimental WP paint scheme.
Fred Jansz


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Photo: WP Boxcar 20807

Tim O'Connor
 


Thank you Garth for all of that background information ! :-)



On 4/24/2020 1:35 PM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:
Fred and friends,

I think you are correct. The cars first 20 cars like this were 20801-20820, from series 20801-21400, and were equipped by the factory with Pullman Compartmentizer dividers and Chrysler FR-5 trucks when delivered in 1951. They might have been a test, but were certainly not experimental. The WP was noted for buying small lots of specialty cars, often being among the first in line for innovations that would help them hold onto their customers. Because the railroad skirted the edge of insolvency so often, they didn't have money for a big-ticket splurges (the California Zephyr being a major exception), and the lots of innovative cars were often small.

Within a few months in 1952 the cars were renumbered into their own series 19501-19520. Twenty-two additional cars were drawn at random from the remainder of the original series (20821-21400) and returned to Pullman for conversion to Compartmentizers. These cars, 19521-19542, were then identical to the originals, except they had black ends, since the WP declined the expense of having the existing black car cement removed. Some had black car cement on their roofs, while others did not. AFAIK, these cars kept their ASF A-3 trucks.

The odd-ball in the lot, and certainly an experiment, was 19537, which was equipped with Timken tapered roller bearings. It had an orange Timken herald in the upper right corner. This car was something of a showboat and was exhibited at the California State Fair, probably in 1953, and likely other cities the WP served. This car had black ends, but a silver roof with a black Morton running board. The bearing caps were also silver.

The silver paint became an embarrassment when it began to weather, so around 1957 the WP repainted the whole class with into FCR with a medium-sized orange feather on the right hand side panel and the "Rides like a Feather" slogan in yellow script in the lower right corner. On the left side, Western Pacific in yellow was spelled out in their version of railroad roman. This was a take on their 1955 lettering, which usually had "Feather River Route" in Futura to the right of the doors. The orange feather was also applied to at least two other series of boxcars equipped with various load restraining devices. Champ sold a lot of decals for this paint scheme, but there probably were less than 100 cars in both 40 and 50-foot lengths that carried this lettering.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:08 AM Fred Jansz <fred@...> wrote:
Didn't know this was an experimental car.
As far as I know WP 20801-20820 was a regular 1951 PS-1 order with an experimental WP paint scheme.
Fred Jansz


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: B&O P-25D in HO

Tim O'Connor
 

Jim

I think he meant the tiny "air pockets" visible in your photo. I think we
recently discussed this - it can be fixed prior to an overcoat with pin-pricks
and additional decal solvent, but afterwards - not so much.

It doesn't detract from your model! I HAVE this B&O Intermountain flat car so
I will be looking at your instructions for the equipment locker. :-)

Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts



On 4/24/2020 12:15 PM, Jim King wrote:

I don’t understand your comment re: a “shadow” around the decal edges.  Nothing shows up on my images and except in 1 spot where a little white from an adjoining decal was included when I cut from a sheet.  The posted image, being low rez, might be slightly distorted.  I’ve attached a close up of lettering but also low rez just to be emailable.  I don’t seen any “shadow” around lettering that you asked about.  Maybe I’m missing something?

 

The car was painted Floquil Grimy black with 10% gloss added and the thin-film decals nestled in quickly with diluted Solvaset, then full-strength Solvaset on the 2nd application.  The car was oversprayed with Rustoleum Frosted Clear, when weathering applied in multiple layers on top of that.  No clear coat was applied after dusting simply because the coating obliterates the powders.

 

These cars were used to haul plasterboard (“sheet rock”) and the loads were wrapped in Gold Bond orange and white sheets.  I’m planning to create this load and present it to the B&O Modeler staff as a follow up article.

 

Jim King

http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/

 

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Santa Fe Fe-24 and Fe-28 photos

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

     With Todd having raised questions about the Santa Fe's 50 ft. Auto/Furniture cars I'd like to raise some
further questions. When I was in high school I used to keep a record of the reporting marks and car numbers
of none home road cars I saw at various points within New England and now wish they had been saved. The 
specific reason for this today is that I do not remember seeing that many 50 ft.cars of any type in Northern
New England. Logically it would seem that automobiles being delivered to dealerships in smaller towns in the
region could have come in either 40 or 50 Auto cars. That said it would also seem that the 50 ft. auto cars 
used wo;d have been from roads like the GTW, NYC, Erie and possibly a few LV cars. Did the PM, DT&I,
AA or Wabash even roster such cars? The PM had some 50 ft. cars but they were largeky restricted for 
the PM"s Canadian lines having been constructed in Canada.The DT&I had over 200 50 ft. auto cars some 
of which were set up to handle auto parts and could have gone to the Ford Assembly plant in Somerville or 
the GMC plant in Framingham, MA  but I don't know that for certain. I have fnd n record for the AA having any 
50 ft. box cars while the Wabash had some 150 auto cars or 50 ft. in length 25 of which were even equipped 
with end doors but Wabash cars in my experience were a rare  car in Northern New England. Can anyone 
speak definitively about this? If cars from other roads of this specific design were to be found in the region 
what is a likely cargo for them? I realize there were some 50 ft. cars of lumber received from the Pacific 
Northwest but the only 50 ft. cars I remember in this service were No. Pac. cars purchased 2nd hand of the 
Pennsy's round roof variety, the last such car I saw having been in Arlington, Mass. in 1972, 25 years after the 
period I model. It would seem that Sou. Pac. or UP cars of this type might be a possibility with lumber out of 
Oregon but I can't think what a Santa Fe car, for example, might have carried. Who might have some thoughts 
for loads in cars of this type from Western roads?

My est, Don Valentine




Re: Anthracite Hopper in S.W. Virginia Coal Fields

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Friends,

Circa 1984 the business I worked for was hard by the C&O's mountain division. Eastbound trains waiting to enter the small yard in Charlottesville would often stop behind our building, either waiting for the signals to clear at the Southern crossing, or for the yard to open. One day to my surprise there was a Cambria & Indiana hopper stopped right behind the store. Since it was eastbound, I'm assuming it was loaded and bound for Newport News. I'm still looking for the negative, but here's a scan from the print.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 8:32 PM George Courtney via groups.io <gsc3=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Recently there was talk about anthracite hoppers in Iowa, I believe.  Not Iowa, but far from home. 
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/426984/




George Courtney


Re: Santa Fe Fe-24 and Fe-28 photos

Jim Gates
 

Specifically, the 200 Fe-24 delivered for passenger service came with the Allied Full Cushion. The other 300 came with Barber S2 trucks. When 100 of these were modified for passenger service some got A-3 trucks. And most of the original passenger service cars either traded with the remaining freight ones or received A-3 trucks. All the Allied full Cushions disappeared in the late 40s. There are pictures of Fe-24 cars with other experimental trucks in the late 40s, these were short lived one shots.

Jim Gates

On Friday, April 24, 2020, 05:59:04 PM CDT, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:


Todd Sullivan wrote:

I have been looking on the web for several days trying to find clear photos of Santa Fe's class Fe-24 and Fe-28 50' double door boxcars.  I have a kit for each (P2K for Fe-24, Branchline for Fe-28), and I need to know what kind of trucks each one had, and check out other details before I proceed with the builds.

    The FE-24 cars got ASF A-3 trucks later (many were delivered with Allied Full Cushion). The -28s were delivered with A-3. This from the Hendrickson book on ATSF auto cars.

Tony Thompson




Re: Santa Fe Fe-24 and Fe-28 photos

Todd Sullivan
 

Thank you, Tony, Ben & Ron.  The photos are very helpful.

Todd Sullivan


Re: Santa Fe Fe-24 and Fe-28 photos

mopacfirst
 

Here's what some of them looked like near the end: 

Many of them got sidesill reinforcement that looked basically as if they'd been built that way.  And I think these are still A-3 trucks.

Ron Merrick


Re: boxcars can be lined up on two tracks

Richard McQuade
 

Thanks. Just that it looks like it. I didn't know about the material you've mentioned.
Richard


Freight Classification for sale

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello,

I have one coppy of the Uniform Freight Classification #2; Ratings, Rules and Regulations issued Oct 12, 1953. 514 pages, 8x11", with soft covers.

The book appears to give definations to varous commidity groups.

Only have one copy. $20.00 plus $5.00 post if needed.

Rails Unlimited
Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120

847=697-5353


Anthracite Hopper in S.W. Virginia Coal Fields

George Courtney
 

Recently there was talk about anthracite hoppers in Iowa, I believe.  Not Iowa, but far from home. 
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/426984/




George Courtney

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