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2020 St. Louis RPM Update: PLEASE READ

Daniel Kohlberg
 

Hello Everyone,

 

Note: Feel free to forward this around to your friends and other groups / social media -- and please include the entire message!

 

First, The Bad News:

Due to the COVID-19 global pandemic, we have made the decision to cancel the 2020 St. Louis RPM for July 31-August 1.

 

We have a responsibility in our community to reduce the spread of the virus and prioritize the health and safety of our families, attendees, vendors, clinicians and staff.   We made our decision based on recommendations from the local health authorities, the WHO and CDC.

 

Now, the Good News:

We have already signed the contract for the 2021 St. Louis RPM for July 30-31 2021 at the same Gateway Center in Collinsville IL.

 

In the meantime:

Keep building models and working on layouts. Let's make 2021 our biggest and best St. Louis RPM EVER. We'll see you there....

 

The St. Louis RPM website remains the best place to go for updates as we finalize the Clinicians, Vendors, Hotel Info and other details for 2021:

www.icgdecals.com/stlrpm

 

Stay safe everyone.

 

Thank you,

Lonnie Bathurst

John Golden

Daniel Kohlberg

Dave Roeder

 

 

 


Re: Rapido NP boxcar

leakinmywaders
 

Yes, with exceedingly rare exceptions these cars kept the original trucks well into the 1960s and 1970s, by which time most were renumbered and operating in company service.

I agonized a while over the truck details as well, but after a trial and inspection decided to go with the stock Rapido trucks, and have been happy with that choice. 

I’ve been adding a few small details to the model as well, including the bracket or stirrup under the bottom of the vertical brake shaft at the B end sill, the retainer valve under the side sill at the door opening (opposite the triple valve), and for cars so modified starting in the late 1950s, elongate  rectangular corner straps to replace the triangular corner straps on the car sides. 

For those wanting to change car numbers or reweigh data, or do other lettering modifications on the Rapido boxcars, the NPRHA Company Store offers an excellent decal set for that purpose. 

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT 


Re: Notice: InterMountain Parts Requests

Gerald Henriksen
 

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 19:13:45 -0400, you wrote:

I wonder if this is just a pandemic thing or are they leaving the parts business forever. My club use wheir wheels extensively.
Their wheels aren't parts, they are a product.

https://www.intermountain-railway.com/wheels.htm


Re: Notice: InterMountain Parts Requests

Tim O'Connor
 

Andy

There are other choices for 0.088 wheels in bulk !! I bought several bags from Moloco last year
and they are good looking (front and back), blackened wheels.

I think the change in IRC policy may be due to the change in management - Frank retired.

Tim O'Connor



On 4/25/2020 7:13 PM, Andy Miller wrote:

I wonder if this is just a pandemic thing or are they leaving the parts business forever.  My club use wheir wheels extensively.

 

Regards,

 

Andy Mller



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Santa Fe Fe-24 and Fe-28 photos

Tim O'Connor
 


Stephen, thanks for that information ! Your timeline regarding the
Allied FC trucks may be off. Here, an August 1952 photo of ATSF 4182
still in passenger service.

Tim O'Connor



On 4/25/2020 3:04 PM, James SANDIFER wrote:

According to Richard Hendrickson: “The first 200 FE-24s were delivered with steam and signal lines, marker lamp brackets, and special paint jobs for passenger express service.…The Santa Fe’s passenger-equipped FE-24s numbered 10000-10199 had Allied Full Cushion pedestal trucks and were painted coach green (dark olive) with black roofs and underbodies. Stenciling was Dulux gold and included the system maps and slogans that were then being applied to all of the Santa Fe’s box, automobile, and refrigerator cars….The other 300 FE-24s numbered 10200-10499 were assigned to general merchandise service and painted the usual freight scheme… When the volume of express shipments grew dramatically after…WWI, the Santa Fe installed passenger equipment on another hundred FE-24s in 1943 and assigned them to express service. Shortly afterward, all of the FE-24 express cars were given passenger car numbers in the 4100-4399 series, leaving on the FE-24s numbered 10300-10499 in the freight car pool. Also as they were repainted, the express cars lost their maps and slogans. About the same time, there was a great flurry of truck swapping among the FE-24s. It had been found that the Allied Full Cushion trucks, though smoother riding than conventional freight trucks, were prone to derailment. When the truck manufacturer was unable to cure this problem, the Santa Fe equipped the express service FE-24s with Barber S-2 Stabilized freight trucks removed from freight service FE-24s, supplemented with some new ASF A-3 Ride Control trucks. The Allied trucks removed from the express car fleet were then installed on FE-24s in the freight car fleet. When derailment problems with Allied trucks persisted even at freight train speeds, they were taken out of service entirely in the late 1940s and were banned by the AAR in interchange service by the mid-1950s…. Four different trucks were installed on four express service FE-24s in the late 1940s: 4108 had Keystone trucks, 4197 had Chrysler FR-5-D trucks, 4230 had LFM trucks, and 4281 had Scullin trucks. None of these trucks performed significantly better than the Barber and ASF freight trucks to justify their added expense and all of the FE-24s in both express and freight service eventually ended up rolling on Barber S-2 and ASF A-3 freight trucks with built in bolster snubbers. Then in the mid-1960s express FE-24s in the 4100-4178 series were equipped with roller bearing trucks.”

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Notice: InterMountain Parts Requests

mel perry
 

nothing says you have to buy intermountain, let the bean counters
figure it out
mel perry


Re: Notice: InterMountain Parts Requests

Paul Krueger
 

They won't sell them one at a time, but I expect they'd be open to a business proposition from someone to buy them in bulk for resale.

Paul Krueger
Seattle, WA


Non-Freight Car Photo ID

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Friends,

At this risk of jail time, I want to ask if anyone can help with the identification of the locomotive in the attached photo. I picked up the print in a seconds box. Eventually, I will Photoshop out all the scratches. As much as I hate computers, the do have their uses.

If you can help PLEASE EMAIL ME DIRECTLY AT mallardlodge1000@... . PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS EMAIL THROUGH THE GROUP.

Thanks in advance.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆
(From my address, you now know why I use this duck emoji)


Re: Notice: InterMountain Parts Requests

Rob & Bev Manley
 

That's just plain stupid. Even if it doesn't generate enough grickles for them, its at least a good customer service value added move that always attracts more customers. Oh, well, we'll have to look elsewhere.

Rob Manley
"Better modeling through personal embarrassment"


On Saturday, April 25, 2020, 01:44:14 PM CDT, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Notice: InterMountain Parts Requests

Courtesy of a "heads-up" from John Hodson, the InterMountain website says they "...are no longer accepting non-warranty parts requests. This includes, but is not limited to, parts used in kitbashing, scratchbuilding, and/or any model customization purposes."

Details (but not parts!):

https://www.intermountain-railway.com/customerservice/csparts.html

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Rapido NP boxcar

John Larkin
 

Judging by the condition of the brake shoes I'd say that car isn't exactly revenue service on any line now!

John


On Saturday, April 25, 2020, 5:46:59 PM CDT, brianleppert@... <brianleppert@...> wrote:


As Northern Pacific is a favorite road and I have two Sunshine kits for the 10000-13999 boxcars, I wanted to add a similar truck to the Tahoe Model Works line.  The closest I could find was under an Illinois Central car at the Illinois Railway museum (always a Sunday stop after the Naperville meet).  That became TMW-114/214.  The bolster end isn't right for the NP cars, but perfect for my Sunshine IC boxcar kit.  All-in-all, the best I could do.

On a later vacation passing through Hill City, SD, found an NP boxcar and quickly trespassed to get a photo of the truck.

Photos attached.

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works
Carson City, NV
please visit resincarworks.com/tahoe.htm

Attachments:


Notice: InterMountain Parts Requests

Andy Carlson
 

Actually, I believe it to be more of a management decision. Frank Angsted has just about reduced his contributions to near zero, and his son is currently listed as the president. I remember when the best company for their parts policy used to be Atlas. They have slowly ratcheted back their parts offering, and unavailable parts seem to out number the available ones. The Intermountain bean counters probably said that the return on investment did not justify the commitment. Sad loss, as they had many useful parts which will be missed.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Saturday, April 25, 2020, 6:50:30 PM PDT, A&Y Dave in MD <dbott@...> wrote:


Could be new China supplier thing. Remember that happened last year (seems an age ago!).

Dave

Sent from Dave Bott' iPhone

On Apr 25, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Andy Miller <aslmmiller@...> wrote:



I wonder if this is just a pandemic thing or are they leaving the parts business forever.  My club use wheir wheels extensively.

 

Regards,

 

Andy Mller

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 2:44 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Notice: InterMountain Parts Requests

 

Notice: InterMountain Parts Requests

Courtesy of a "heads-up" from John Hodson, the InterMountain website says they "...are no longer accepting non-warranty parts requests. This includes, but is not limited to, parts used in kitbashing, scratchbuilding, and/or any model customization purposes."

Details (but not parts!):

https://www.intermountain-railway.com/customerservice/csparts.html

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


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____________________________
David Bott, modeling the A&Y in '34


Re: Rapido NP boxcar

npin53
 

Tahoe, Barber Lateral motion trucks, are what I used in my 10000 Sunshine kits.

Aaron Gjermundson


Re: Notice: InterMountain Parts Requests

A&Y Dave in MD
 

Could be new China supplier thing. Remember that happened last year (seems an age ago!).

Dave

Sent from Dave Bott' iPhone

On Apr 25, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Andy Miller <aslmmiller@...> wrote:



I wonder if this is just a pandemic thing or are they leaving the parts business forever.  My club use wheir wheels extensively.

 

Regards,

 

Andy Mller

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 2:44 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Notice: InterMountain Parts Requests

 

Notice: InterMountain Parts Requests

Courtesy of a "heads-up" from John Hodson, the InterMountain website says they "...are no longer accepting non-warranty parts requests. This includes, but is not limited to, parts used in kitbashing, scratchbuilding, and/or any model customization purposes."

Details (but not parts!):

https://www.intermountain-railway.com/customerservice/csparts.html

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


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____________________________
David Bott, modeling the A&Y in '34


Re: boxcars can be lined up on two tracks

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello All,

Galewood was a majorLCL freight house on the Milwaukee Rd, in the city of Chicago. There were actually two freight houses with 5 tracks between them and then to the north another three loading tracks. Each house was about 2000 ft long. About 400 cars at max capacity. Knew a trainmaster and he told me each day starting at 5PM, two crews switched the houses for the next 12 hours. there were span plates across all five tracks. There are also photos showing reefers being loaded with LCL at this house.

Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


On Apr 25, 2020, at 3:07 PM, James SANDIFER <steve.sandifer@...> wrote:


The photo is entitled: GalewoodIL MilwaukeeRd 1943. I think it is from the US Government collection.

J. Stephen Sandifer

 


Re: Notice: InterMountain Parts Requests

Clark Propst
 

Caboose Stop Hobbies in Cedar Falls Iowa has several sandwich bags of Intermountain parts sprues. They really don't know what they are so a photo of which you're looking for would help. I don't know the price...
CW Propst


Re: Notice: InterMountain Parts Requests

Andy Miller
 

I wonder if this is just a pandemic thing or are they leaving the parts business forever.  My club use wheir wheels extensively.

 

Regards,

 

Andy Mller

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 2:44 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Notice: InterMountain Parts Requests

 

Notice: InterMountain Parts Requests

Courtesy of a "heads-up" from John Hodson, the InterMountain website says they "...are no longer accepting non-warranty parts requests. This includes, but is not limited to, parts used in kitbashing, scratchbuilding, and/or any model customization purposes."

Details (but not parts!):

https://www.intermountain-railway.com/customerservice/csparts.html

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Building Roofs - was Re: boxcars can be lined up on two tracks

CJ Riley <cjriley42@...>
 

You are correct and tar paper is one of my pet peeves, along with cinder blocks!
CJ Riley Architect




Re: Rapido NP boxcar

brianleppert@att.net
 

As Northern Pacific is a favorite road and I have two Sunshine kits for the 10000-13999 boxcars, I wanted to add a similar truck to the Tahoe Model Works line.  The closest I could find was under an Illinois Central car at the Illinois Railway museum (always a Sunday stop after the Naperville meet).  That became TMW-114/214.  The bolster end isn't right for the NP cars, but perfect for my Sunshine IC boxcar kit.  All-in-all, the best I could do.

On a later vacation passing through Hill City, SD, found an NP boxcar and quickly trespassed to get a photo of the truck.

Photos attached.

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works
Carson City, NV
please visit resincarworks.com/tahoe.htm


Re: Santa Fe Fe-24 and Fe-28 photos

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Don,

There wasn't much a Cooperstown the last time we were up there about four years ago (a steam locomotive near city hall and a postal car at another site). Most of the unrestored collection is stored at Cooperstown Junction on private property, so it can't be accessed without prior permission. The active part of the railroad is headquartered at Milford, and is now known as the Leatherstocking Railway.

My sweetheart used to make a mandatory trip to Ashland, New Hampshire every year to spend a week with her father and stepmother. They had a nice summer cottage on Lake Winona. He's gone now, and the cabin is in the hands of her stepmother's children. We have good relations with them, but aren't invited to share their summers anymore.

Yes, I'm quite familiar with I-81. You have my sympathies if you have to drive on it. It is loaded with trucks that go too fast, even in the slow lane. The Canadians are the worst. All their trucks seem to have a "How's my driving" sticker on them, but in French. In Pennsylvania I-81, like all freeways there, is in perpetual reconstruction with frequent and long lane closures, usually a dozen in the 240 miles across the state. I was always so happy to get to New York where we switched to I-88 at Binghampton. We usually overnighted around Oneonta, since I was the only driver (once we went all the way from Lorton to Ashland in a single exhausting day when we took a friend with us). My sweetheart does not drive due to her handicaps.

Yours Aye,


Garth  🦆 

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 1:16 PM Donald B. Valentine via groups.io <riverman_vt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks Garth,

    Unfortunately the D&H had no 50 ft. box cars in my era when the 17000 series 40 ft. steel cars they 
rostered were the longest boxcars they had. Lots of 36 ft. wood sheathed cars were still present, however.
Somehow I suspect you are not far from I-81 which is a road I see too much of between here and your area.
At least the Schenectady - Binghampton portion of it is quite scenic though not a much fun as when the D&H 
still owned the paralleling rails. Sometimes I still use NY Rt. #7 just to bring back old memories and will have
to swing up to Cooperstown one of thes e days and see what is lleft there.

My best, Don Valentine


Re: ASM Chrysler trucks (was WP Boxcar 20807)

Bruce Smith
 

Very pretty, except for the fat wheels. Sadly no indication of semi scale wheels being available.
Regards,
Bruce 
Bruce Smith
Auburn, Al


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 9:00 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ASM Chrysler trucks (was WP Boxcar 20807)
 
Fred

They're very pretty - have you ROLL TESTED them? Some brass trucks roll
well.

And many don't roll worth a damn. So which are these? ;-)

Tim O'Connor


On 4/24/2020 4:15 PM, Fred Jansz wrote:
> American Scale Models.
> Fred Jansz
> https://americanscalemodels.com/HO/HO_Detail_Parts/Trucks?product_id=1855


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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*



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