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Carnegie Steel built some of the earliest 65 foot mill gons
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
I believe it was Carnegie Steel that built some of the earliest 65 foot
mill gons for their own internal plant use. It was the success of these gons
that quickly convinced the railroads to buy similar cars.
These two images linked below illustrate the car CSCO 534 nicely...
As I recall, one of the TSC books had an image of one of these cars, for
those in search of yet one more image.
I suspect the CSCO 65 foot gons may not have been used interchange service,
and perhaps never left the plant. Can anyone on the list confirm or deny
this?
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: boxcars can be lined up on two tracks
How about this example? Oregon Short Line Freight House A 1912 photo from the University of Utah Library: Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Economy Oil Company Distribution Plant
Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
On 5/2/2020 9:49 AM, Claus Schlund
\(HGM\) wrote:
So many neat touches just asking to be modeled! The size of the rivets on the tank are interesting. If a model was made I'm sure someone would complain about the size. Trucks are interesting
also. -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User SPROG User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Photo: QTX Three-Compartment Tank Car 6106
Photo: QTX Three-Compartment Tank Car 6106 A 1932 photo from the University of Utah Library: The photo is dark but a photo editing program can improve it quite a bit. https://collections.lib.utah.edu/details?id=542782&q=%28%28oil%29+AND+%28railroad%29%29 You rivet counters will have a field day with this photo. According to Ian Cranstone's chart the QTX reporting mark originally belonged to Quaker City Tank Line (1930), then Quaker City Tank Line/General American Tank Car Corp. (1935), then General American Transportation Corp. (1937-1943). Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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nice scene showing a bulk oil dealership
Andy Carlson
Dennis, and others- Fageols of this era have distinctive saw-toothed fins going down the middle ridge of the hood. The trucks questioned lack that trait, so I believe that they are some other brand. -Andy Carlson Look at these saw-toothed fins on top of the hood
On Saturday, May 2, 2020, 8:36:12 AM PDT, Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...> wrote:
On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 06:22 AM, Douglas Harding wrote: Doug, I'm sure he meant the tank and tank fittings, which DO look like the Jordan tank truck model. These trucks date to the time when all you got from the truck manufacturer was the chassis and engine bonnet, and had to go to an independent body builder for the rest. I agree with Fageol, it looks like their name in script on the radiator tank. Dennis Storzek
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partial view of a PRR class G25 steel gon
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
We have a partial view of a PRR class G25 steel gon in Utah - this is the
USRA steel gon as built during the 1918-1920 period. Note drop ends and Andrews
trucks.
As with other images in this collection, I feel it is best viewed using the
“Download” feature, since this lets you see the image in it’s native full
resolution.
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Economy Oil Company Distribution Plant
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
There is a nice view of the Economy Oil Company Distribution Plant at the
link below, also a nice image of three compartment tank car QTX 1606 being
unloaded from the top. Notice the words “Economy Oil” and “Rush” plus the date
scrawled in chalk across the reporting marks. So many neat touches just asking
to be modeled!
Claus Schlund
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HO Tank Car Walkway Upgrades
Allen Cain
Does anyone make metal walkways with see thru grating that could be used to upgrade tank cars with wooden walkways to metal walkways? I am specifically looking to do this on Broadway Limited, Red Caboose and Intermountain tank cars.
Thanks, Allen Cain
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Re: nice scene showing a bulk oil dealership
Dennis you are correct the tank looks like the one from Jordon. But the original question had been out what kind of truck, which I thought Tim was responding. Just to keep this focus on modeling attached is a photo of what friend did with the Jordon tank.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 06:22 AM, Douglas Harding wrote: The Jordan trucks were Mack Bulldogs. This is not a Mack bulldog. Might be a Fageol, predecessor to Peterbilt. But I’m not sure.
Doug, I'm sure he meant the tank and tank fittings, which DO look like the Jordan tank truck model. These trucks date to the time when all you got from the truck manufacturer was the chassis and engine bonnet, and had to go to an independent body builder for the rest.
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Re: nice scene showing a bulk oil dealership
Dennis Storzek
On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 06:22 AM, Douglas Harding wrote:
Doug, I'm sure he meant the tank and tank fittings, which DO look like the Jordan tank truck model. These trucks date to the time when all you got from the truck manufacturer was the chassis and engine bonnet, and had to go to an independent body builder for the rest. I agree with Fageol, it looks like their name in script on the radiator tank. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Panpastel Blogs
Michael Gross
Thank you, Rob!
-- Michael Gross Pasadena, CA
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Re: Greg Martin
Michael Gross
Oh, so sorry to hear this news. Greg was an excellent modeler and, more importantly, a man of great warmth and kindness. I was inspired by his early articles in Mainline Modeler, and came to know him personally over the years. His great skill was exceeded only by his great heart. He is, and will continue to be, missed.
-- Michael Gross Pasadena, CA
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Re: nice scene showing a bulk oil dealership
The Jordan trucks were Mack Bulldogs. This is not a Mack bulldog. Might be a Fageol, predecessor to Peterbilt. But I’m not sure.
Parco was purchased by Sinclair in the early 30s. The town changed it’s name in 1943.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:26 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] nice scene showing a bulk oil dealership
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Re: Greg Martin
Bud
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Yes! I still use that method. Also Greg's 'pencil line' weathering technique. I am very sad this morning. :'(
On 5/1/2020 6:23 PM, Bud Rindfleisch wrote:
Very sad. Condolences to his family. I really liked Greg's technique of using Post It notes to create seam shadows on boxcars. --
*Tim O'Connor* *Sterling, Massachusetts*
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Re: Greg Martin
Mont Switzer
Good morning John Barry,
Am I one of those guys who is supposed to tell someone (you?) that I still need the Duryea under frame for this project? I know there was a list about a week ago but with work and all it got away from me.
Your kind words about Greg are appreciated. I've had about 15 hours now to dwell upon all of the neat times we had, both having enjoyed the Cocoa and other meets for the better part of 20 years. Greg always called me his "mentor" when in fact an early
article he did on kit bashing an NYC stock car is what really opened my eyes as to how in-depth kit bashing can go, and how fun it is. I think he had the "mentor" thing backwards.
Mont Switzer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] on behalf of John Barry [northbaylines@...]
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 11:03 PM To: Shake-N-Take; STMFC Subject: [RealSTMFC] Greg Martin I am deeply saddened by Greg's passing. I've been following his progress and set backs over the last several weeks and praying for his recovery. Although I don't have a long history with Greg, I was inspired by his Shake-n-Take clinic at Cocoa
Beach in 2015. So much so, that this middling modeler developed and presented this year's SnT clinic with a lot of support and encouragement from Greg. I had some grandiose ideas for the clinic that Greg gently counselled me into scaling back to the clinic
you saw in January. He was a guiding light for getting the Bx-34 done and I am honored that I had the chance to work alongside him this last year. I was looking forward to more collaboration in the future, but that has been cut short by an invisible pathogen.
But my loss is nothing to compare to that of his family, who brought Greg a lot of joy. I extend them my deepest sympathies.
John
John Barry
ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights
Lovettsville, VA
707-490-9696
PO Box 44736
Washington, DC 20026-4736
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Re: nice scene showing a bulk oil dealership
Looks like a Jordan truck model, eh? And Parco, Wyoming? Could that be what later becomes Sinclair, Wyoming (home of Sinclair petroleum)?? Tim O'Connor
On 5/1/2020 4:23 PM, Bruce Smith wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Covid 9 Builds
gtws00
Nicely Done Fenton!
A great looking group of cars Thanks for sharing George Toman
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Re: Greg Martin
james murrie
We've all lost a good friend. Although I usually only got to see him once a year at Cocoa Beach recently, it was always as if you had just seen him the day before. When I lived in Washington State I gave clinics for him in Salem the years he had "Rails By The River" and would meet him when he came north to visit family. A real loss to not only modeling, but humanity.
Jim Murrie
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Re: Greg Martin
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
Not having attended Cocoa Beach as yet I don't believe I ever met Greg Martin unless at Napierville 20 years ago this year. I have followed his Shake & Take projects each year for several, however, and have always found them to be a joy. He always seemed to present them with an "if I can do it you can do it approach", which is what encouraged me to begin providing similar hands on clinics at the NEPROM several years ago. My thoughts and prayers now are with his family for the loss they are facing and hoping for a recovery that I'm certain won't be easy. Don Valentine
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Re: Greg Martin
Dave Boss
I'm so sorry to here of Greg's passing. I'd like extend my condolences to his family. I never met the man, but deeply enjoyed his articles, and knowledge of the hobby. Dave Boss
Very sad indeed. But if you were aware of Greg's medical history you knew he'd have a very hard time if he contracted the virus. When this all started a medical commentator said that when COVID-19 has run its course, everyone will know someone who dies from it. Not know OF someone - actually KNOW someone. It's disheartening that Greg's death checks that box for so many of us. I will remember his friendship, encouragement and willingness to share and teach. He was possessed of a great physical presence, and I'll always picture him running the Prototype Rails door prize raffle, commanding the room and demanding our attention with his big, booming voice. A true loss which diminishes us all.
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