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Re: Speaking of rivets

James Cummings
 

Does anyone have a source for 0.010 lead foil in reasonable small quantities for modeling purposes? James Cummings
wire gauge for tie-rods

Ray Hutchison
 

I was not certain the correct gauge for tie-rods for early box cars and reefers?  The originals are usually given as 1.5 inches.  Hopefully this would the queen posts in the old roundhouse 36' kits?

and related question about correct size for air and steam tubes on brass models?

Thanks for suggestions!

Ray Hutchison
Green Bay WI
Re: Photo: Pullman Company Boxcar PLM X2023

Ray Hutchison
 

What were these used for?


On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:27 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: Pullman Company Boxcar PLM X2023

A 1940 builder's photo from the Illinois Digital Archives:

http://www.idaillinois.org/cdm/compoundobject/collection/pshs/id/19536/rec/72

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
Greg Martin

golden1014
 

Hi Guys,

I case you never met him, I thought I'd share of my friend "TGreg", as I called him, at Cocoa Beach in January 2009.  That's Greg on the right and Chris "Ziggy" Zygmunt at left.

Godspeed, brother.



John Golden
Ramstein-Miesenbach, Germany

RPM Blog: https://railroadprototypemodeler.wordpress.com/
Re: Greg Martin

Peter Weiglin
 

Just got off the phone with Bob Hundman; we commiserated over the passing of Greg Martin.  And we agree that while ihis passing is a tragedy, we can minimize our grief by dwelling on how lucky we all are that Greg was with us at al, and for as long as he was. This hobby and this world are better because he was here.;

Peter Weiglin
Re: Carnegie Steel built some of the earliest 65 foot mill gons

Eric Hansmann
 

Could it be Cambria Steel? They also built freight cars. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On May 2, 2020, at 1:02 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:

Hi List Members,
 
I believe it was Carnegie Steel that built some of the earliest 65 foot mill gons for their own internal plant use. It was the success of these gons that quickly convinced the railroads to buy similar cars.
 
These two images linked below illustrate the car CSCO 534 nicely...
 
 
 
As I recall, one of the TSC books had an image of one of these cars, for those in search of yet one more image.
 
I suspect the CSCO 65 foot gons may not have been used interchange service, and perhaps never left the plant. Can anyone on the list confirm or deny this?
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
Re: Covid 19 Builds

O Fenton Wells
 

Great project, hope it turns out perfectly 
Fenton 


On May 2, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Paul Catapano <pc66ot@...> wrote:


I'm building a Train room with a house for my Wife over it.


Paul Catapano
Winchester, VA
Re: Carnegie Steel built some of the earliest 65 foot mill gons

CJ Riley
 

The references I have don’t show Utah operations for Carnegie Steel. Perhaps it’s like the local iron works in Irondale (near Port Townsend) WA that I was told was owned by Carnegie.Research on the company in the local library indicated this was not true. Could CSCO be a different company?
Covid 19 Builds

Paul Catapano
 

I'm building a Train room with a house for my Wife over it.


Paul Catapano
Winchester, VA
Re: [External] [RealSTMFC] C&NW 106628, a 36ft trussrod box car

naptownprr
 

Also a nice locomotive!


Jim Hunter

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Hi List Members,
 
There is a nice image of C&NW 106628, a 36ft trussrod box car in coal service in 1907 at Independent Coal Coke Company in Utah
 
 
This car is quite far from home!
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
Re: HO Tank Car Walkway Upgrades

Allen Cain
 

Tony,

Good advice.

What got me started on this was, what to my eye, is a really bad wooden walkway on the Broadway cars. To me, the "texture" is just wrong.

Which is a shame considering the quality of the car.

May just live with it or find some thin "peel and stick" wood to go over it.  I know AMB/LaserKit made these for gons and flats but there are boards running across them.

Anyway, will save my Tangent and Kadee cars from distruction!

Thanks,

Allen Cain
Re: HO Tank Car Walkway Upgrades

Bill Welch
 

I am pretty sure Plano has a walkway made for the Red Caboose kit. I think mine is stored in the kit box. It will be no small project to use it however as there needs to be a LOT of cutting/whittling to come up with a decent looking u/f. I ordered three Kadee underframe/running board assemblies to attempt to graft them to Atlas tanks with their ridiculous underframe but have not done anything as yet.

I think most of the Broadway tank car should have wood, not steel running boards. It think most of the IM Type 27 similarly should have wood, not steel. Could be wrong however on both counts.

Bill Welch
Re: boxcars can be lined up on two tracks

gary laakso
 

Bob, the end cars on the two tracks closest to the freight house appear to be refrigerator cars while the 5th car over is a Great Northern truss rod boxcar with its end door showing.

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] boxcars can be lined up on two tracks

 

How about this example?

Oregon Short Line Freight House

A 1912 photo from the University of Utah Library:

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/details?id=527642&page=15&facet_format_t=%22image%2Fjpeg%22&q=warehouse

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
Offered: Sunshine resin PFE R-30-9 new kit-free shipping

Andy Carlson
 

Hello folks-
I have a new Sunshine HO resin kit which I am offering for sale. New, unbuilt. Free Shipping

Sunshine #25.10 P.F.E. R-30-9/R-40-9 wood reefer        $43

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Thanks,
Re: Photo: QTX Three-Compartment Tank Car 6106

Mont Switzer
 

It appears that the car is being unloaded through that long pipe that extends along the side of the building.  I hope it goes to a substantial storage tank or tanks.  

This is unusual.  Most tankage is located next to the railroad spur to minimize the amount of plumbing needed and distance pumped.  

Mont Switzer

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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: QTX Three-Compartment Tank Car 6106

Photo: QTX Three-Compartment Tank Car 6106

A 1932 photo from the University of Utah Library:

The photo is dark but a photo editing program can improve it quite a bit.

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/details?id=542782&q=%28%28oil%29+AND+%28railroad%29%29

You rivet counters will have a field day with this photo.

According to Ian Cranstone's chart the QTX reporting mark originally belonged to Quaker City Tank Line (1930), then Quaker City Tank Line/General American Tank Car Corp. (1935), then General American Transportation Corp. (1937-1943).

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
Re: HO Tank Car Walkway Upgrades

Andy Miller
 

Plano makes their various types of etched walkway material in larger sheets.  You could cut your own.

 

Regards,

 

Andy Miller

 

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Subject: [RealSTMFC] HO Tank Car Walkway Upgrades

 

Does anyone make metal walkways with see thru grating that could be used to upgrade tank cars with wooden walkways to metal walkways?  I am specifically looking to do this on Broadway Limited, Red Caboose and Intermountain tank cars.

Thanks,

Allen Cain

C&NW 106628, a 36ft trussrod box car

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
There is a nice image of C&NW 106628, a 36ft trussrod box car in coal service in 1907 at Independent Coal Coke Company in Utah
 
 
This car is quite far from home!
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
Re: HO Tank Car Walkway Upgrades

Tony Thompson
 

Allen Cain wrote:

Does anyone make metal walkways with see thru grating that could be used to upgrade tank cars with wooden walkways to metal walkways?  I am specifically looking to do this on Broadway Limited, Red Caboose and Intermountain tank cars.

      You could use and/or kit bash a Tangent or Kadee walkway. Remember that the 1948 requirement to use metal walkways did NOT require older cars to have their walkways replaced. You could find tank cars with wood walkways still in use into the 1980s. So it would seem to me that you need to be sure you know the build dates of your tank cars before you replace walkways.

Tony Thompson
Re: partial view of a PRR class G25 steel gon

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Oops, let’s try that again...
 
 
I thank Richard Brennan for letting me know I got the link wrong, thanks Richard!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

From: Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 1:25 PM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] partial view of a PRR class G25 steel gon
 
Hi List Members,
 
We have a partial view of a PRR class G25 steel gon in Utah - this is the USRA steel gon as built during the 1918-1920 period. Note drop ends and Andrews trucks.
 
 
As with other images in this collection, I feel it is best viewed using the “Download” feature, since this lets you see the image in it’s native full resolution.
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
Re: Carnegie Steel built some of the earliest 65 foot mill gons

mopacfirst
 

These are interesting photos.  In one, the car is marked Homestead Works, which is a bit east of Utah.  (perhaps the library acquired them not as part of a local history project.)

And the product in the laydown yard, where the car is spotted, looks more like wire or bar to me.  The individuals linking hands in front of the car look a bit small to be working in a steel yard, or lumber yard as the case may be.

Ron Merrick
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