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Re: NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

mopacfirst
 

I tried that on a Microscale decal a few months ago and it did not work out well.  This was one of those sets with lots of dimensional data, which are extremely hard to see.  I used one of those large Sharpies and the fill of black color as viewed from the front was very splotchy, even when being colored over a couple of times.  That didn't help much in locating where to cut.  Worse, I thought that this made the decal very hard to release from the backing, almost impossible.  As in any controlled experiment, I tried some with and some without.  I could have been doing something wrong, but I'd rather not try this on any decal that might be hard to replace.

This technique was first mentioned in instructions from Oddballs.  I never tried it with an Oddballs decal, but those are old enough now that I've taken to painting the face of the decal with Microscale liquid decal film, which does a great job of preventing film breakup.

Ron Merrick


You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

Bob Chaparro
 

You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

A 1953 photo from the Akron-Summit County Public Library:

https://www.summitmemory.org/digital/collection/ABJarchives/id/2001/

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Description: "Photograph of more than eighty employees of Biggs Boiler Works Co. lined up on three railroad flat cars to illustrate the length of a huge vulcanizer the Akron firm had just completed for the Johns-Manville Co. plant in Port Union, Ontario. The steel cylinder was one of the two longest ever shipped by Biggs. It measured 146 feet in length, 90 inches in diameter, and weighed 115,000 pounds. Because of its length and the necessity for avoiding curves, a special route to its destination had to be worked out."

Additional Description: "They're Making 'Em Big at Biggs Boiler / to Kuebler. 146 Ft. Long Cylinder at Biggs Boiler / 1-19-53 / They're Making 'Em Big At Biggs Boiler / More than 80 employees of Biggs Boiler Works Co. line up on three railroad flat cars to illustrate the length of a huge vulcanizer the Akron firm has just completed for Johns-Manville Co. plant in Port Union, Ont. The steel cylinder is one of the two longest ever shipped by Biggs. It measures 146 feet in length, 90 inches in diameter and weighs 115,000 pounds. Because of its length and the necessity for avoiding curves, a special route to its destination had to be worked out. / Beacon Journal Photograph"

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Proto2000 Boxcars

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Allen,

Our friend Fenton Wells wrote an article in the November 2012 RMC on kitbashing the Southern cars to 10' IH.

I do not see Southern represented in two RMJ articles on the Lifelike cars by Richard Hendrickson, October 1995 and September 1996.

The 1944 ORER lists three classes of 50' 10' 6' IH double door boxcars with 15' 6" door openings: 40200-40249 (end doors and auto racks), 41500-41549 (end doors, no racks), 42000-42299 (no end doors or auto racks). Curiously, the total number of cars in each group is not filled in, suggesting they were pending delivery when the ORER was printed, though the "denotes additions" triangles are missing.

I have unbuilt Lifelike kit 21027 for Southern 40249, and kit 8419 for 42010. I seem to remember there was something a bit dodgy about these two cars, maybe the sills or something. They do look nice.

The only thing I can add is that I have a copy of a builder's photo of 39969 circa 1947. This car has Superior doors and 4/4 improved Dreadnaught ends.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 3:42 PM Allen Cain <Allencaintn@...> wrote:
Old subject but my memory is fading for some reason?

Were the P2K boxcars painted for the Southern accurate to any prototype?  I have several plus some undecorated kits that I am finally getting around to.

Thanks,

Allen Cain


Re: Proto2000 Boxcars

rdgbuff56
 

Not sure.  But do have an updated for sale list.

Francis A. Pehowic, Jr.

On Monday, May 4, 2020, 7:42:23 PM UTC, Allen Cain <allencaintn@...> wrote:


Old subject but my memory is fading for some reason?

Were the P2K boxcars painted for the Southern accurate to any prototype?  I have several plus some undecorated kits that I am finally getting around to.

Thanks,

Allen Cain


Proto2000 Boxcars

Allen Cain
 

Old subject but my memory is fading for some reason?

Were the P2K boxcars painted for the Southern accurate to any prototype?  I have several plus some undecorated kits that I am finally getting around to.

Thanks,

Allen Cain


Photo: D&RGW Gondolas 40560 & 40022

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: D&RGW Gondolas 40560 & 40022

A 1920 photo from the University of Utah Library:

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/details?id=539326&page=2&facet_format_t=%22image%2Fjpeg%22&q=%28%28oil%29+AND+%28railroad%29%29

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

leakinmywaders
 

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:41 AM, Bruce Smith wrote:
I have heard the if you color the back of the paper with a marker, it helps to see the decals on the front."
This has worked for me on numerous occasions with decals produced by MicroScale, and some custom-printed decals from an Alps printer.  Best is one of those jumbo Sharpies that really saturates the paper.  With a standard issue Sharpie marker, you often have to go over it twice to get enough pigment into the paper. I've seen no ink transfer to the decal carrier, but results might differ with decals produced other manufacturers using different paper.  

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT


Photo Gallery: PPKX 5568 (Poultry Car)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo Gallery: PPKX 5568 (Poultry Car)

Photos from the kc1533.org/ website:

http://kc1533.org/webpages/FreightCars/PoultryCar/PoultryPalace.html

Quite a few photos.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

Bruce Smith
 

I have heard the if you color the back of the paper with a marker, it helps to see the decals on the front. I've always been nervous to do this since the only markers in the house are sharpies. My guess is that paint would also work.

Obviously, TEST these suggestions on a decal or section of decal that you don't want to use!

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Richard McQuade via groups.io <richardmcquade@...>
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 11:29 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.
 
To read white dry transfers I use a sheet of black construction paper behind them so I can read them. Maybe using a bit of tape on the top of the decal sheet and attached to  a piece of black construction paper behind the decal sheet could help with at least seeing the decals better. I haven't tried it with decals and the thickness of the decal sheet will make a difference but this might work in some cases. Nothing lost in trying it.
Richard


Re: Photo: NP Reefer 91725

Edward
 

Well, that door job neatly solves any issues about loading the car using larger forklifts!
Ed Bommer


Re: NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Exactly the set that brought my rant to the fore!

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Corral
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2020 12:21 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

 

Schuyler Larrabee wrote:

          "Light blue for decal paper is an improvement over white, but why can’t it be a medium blue instead of light robin’s egg blue . . .???

I have the same question. 

I'm having trouble distinguishing where to cut between lettering on the decals I received at the 2020 Cocoa Beach RPM Shake-N-Take. The lettering is white on a very pale blue almost white background.  Any solutions? 

George


Re: HELP NEEDED ON A LYSLE RPM PRESENTATIONB

skibbs4
 

Was it Chris Vanko's perhaps?

Here's the link to the program and the handouts that were shared digitally:


Simply change the year in the link if you want to review other programs.



On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 2:39 PM WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...> wrote:


 At the 2018 RPM meet at Lysle there was a very excellent presentation  on weathering.  I don’t recall who the presenter was.  When I returned home I printed the presentation.  This was a 38 page document covering box cars, gondolas hopper and tank cars.
    When I went to review it recently I discovered that in all my efficiency (or th usual lack thereof) I was missing pages 1 - 6 and page 18.  I would greatly appreciate if anyone could privide these pages ofr provide a link to the presentation.

Thank you for any help.

Bill Pardie


Re: NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

Richard McQuade
 

To read white dry transfers I use a sheet of black construction paper behind them so I can read them. Maybe using a bit of tape on the top of the decal sheet and attached to  a piece of black construction paper behind the decal sheet could help with at least seeing the decals better. I haven't tried it with decals and the thickness of the decal sheet will make a difference but this might work in some cases. Nothing lost in trying it.
Richard


Re: Photo: NP Reefer 91725

Hudson Leighton
 

OK here it is with the correct caption

Still 3 doors no waiting.

-Hudson


Re: NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

George Corral
 

Schuyler Larrabee wrote:

          "Light blue for decal paper is an improvement over white, but why can’t it be a medium blue instead of light robin’s egg blue . . .???

I have the same question. 

I'm having trouble distinguishing where to cut between lettering on the decals I received at the 2020 Cocoa Beach RPM Shake-N-Take. The lettering is white on a very pale blue almost white background.  Any solutions? 

George


Re: NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

Ken Adams
 

Some years ago someone on the old Yahoo boards indicated that going over the back of the white on light blue Microscale decals with a black marker would enable you to read them. I tried it and ruined a part of a sheet of reporting remarks.  Has anyone got a better solution?
--
Ken Adams
In splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek


Re: Dated search

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thanks, Guy, this solves the problem of having deleted the original message with the photo or the link to it when everybody starts the analysis and revealing more information, which can be very frustrating!

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Guy Wilber via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2020 11:51 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Dated search

 

Joe Nevin wrote:

 

“Has someone figured out how to search for a quoted string in the messages and have most recent first?  Or restricted by a date range.  After transitioning to Groups.io I have not figured a way.”

 

Click on View/Reply online...click the messages box for all in the thread.  In the upper right is a date tab...click it and it reverses the sequence of the messages.

 

Guy Wilber

Reno, Nevada


Re: NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

Fred Jansz
 

I own a Rapido undec NP car too I'd like to paint & letter.
So I tried to order a decal set online.
Didn't work.
$20 minimum order and (I suppose) $20 minimum postage to Holland for the parcel.
Pity.
Anyone willing to sell a spare set?
I'll paypal you (as a friend) for decals, envelope & postage.

best regards from sunny Holland,
Fred Jansz


The Spring issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

Bruce Smith
 

Folks,


The Spring, 2020 issue (#112) of The Keystone Modeler is now available on the PRRT&HS web site at: http://www.prrths.com/newprr_files/newPRRKeystoneModeler.htm


A gentle reminder - If you don't see the issue listed, reload the web page so as to refresh your cache.


Regards,

Bruce 

Bruce Smith, Assistant webmaster, PRRT&HS


Re: Carnegie Steel built some of the earliest 65 foot mill gons

Jack Mullen
 

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 04:07 PM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) wrote:
Dan wrote: “No ladders on right end and left end grabs are insufficient”
 
These gons were built in the late 1920s. What the safety requirements were at the time regarding right side ladders and end grabs, I cannot say.
At that time, and for long thereafter, the U.S. Safety Appliance standards for a low-side gon (sides 36" or less above floor) required only a single horizontal handhold at each end of the side, placed 24" to 36" above coupler centerline. For the ends, horizontal handholds were required on the sill, but handholds were not required on drop ends.  The CSCO car seems to cover the bases.

So, markings meet interchange requirements. Safety appliances meet interchange requirements. The  car is listed in the Equipment Register. It belongs to a steel mill in Pennsylvania, and evidently was photographed in Utah. I'll bet it's in interchange service delivering its owner's steel products.

Jack Mullen

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