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Re: Resource about Freight Car Brakes and Braking
Them who knowingly spreads misinformation is just as guilty as them who creates it. ;-) As HST was fond of saying, the buck stops here!
On 5/12/2020 6:27 AM, Bill Welch wrote:
Just the messenger Dennis, just the messenger. --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: ID Help With Container Car
CALCIUM CARBIDE containers. Not waste, but evidently nasty stuff.
On 5/12/2020 7:08 AM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: IC box car, 2019 RPM Chicagoland Mini-Kit
Ray Breyer
When built, the cars were painted Harriman standard freight car maroon (described as Hershey bar wrapper brown). By the 1930s the standard color was pretty much out of the bottle Boxcar "red". Ray Breyer Elgin, IL
On Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 07:23:13 AM CDT, Daniel A. Mitchell <danmitch@...> wrote:
I have completed the kitbash project of the IC SS box car provided as the mini-kit at the 2019 Chicagoland RPM gathering. I have prime-painted the model and now need to finish it. Not being an IC fan I'm wondering what the appropriate color may be? The only photos I've found are B&W, and they vary from light to dark. Assuming the cars were Freight Car Red, was it a "brownish" or a "reddish" shade?
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Re: C&BT Upgrade
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
How true that is Tim. Anyone who saw Saving Private Ryan must remember the German tank #314 only it isn't a German tank. It is a Russian T-34 with the glacis plate changed to make it look more like a German tank but for the few seconds you saw it in the film 99.9% of the viewers wouldn't know the difference. There is a railroad maintenance contractor and maintenance equipment rebuilder on the west side of US Rt. #15 not far south of the last trafiic lights in Dillsburg, PA that had this tank sitting outside their shop for some months in 2011 while the put a rebuilt motor in it. It also had rubber tracks for parade us. It is owned by a fellow from Penn. but what a shame to modify what was arguably the best tank in WW II trying to make it into something it isn't. An impossible makeover given that the turret for all German tanks was centered while the turret on all Soviet tanks were mounted forward of he center. Unlike the heavier German Tiger the Russian T-34 could be moved easily by rail without the need to replace its it's tracks with a more narrow set. (required content) My best, Don Valentine
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IC box car, 2019 RPM Chicagoland Mini-Kit
I have completed the kitbash project of the IC SS box car provided as the mini-kit at the 2019 Chicagoland RPM gathering. I have prime-painted the model and now need to finish it. Not being an IC fan I'm wondering what the appropriate color may be? The only photos I've found are B&W, and they vary from light to dark. Assuming the cars were Freight Car Red, was it a "brownish" or a "reddish" shade?
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ID Help With Container Car
Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
Friends, The attached photo of a container car is well beyond our era of interest. I was hoping to learn more about the car itself to see if it would barely scrape into our last year or so. The car in question is CCKX 281. The only reference I can find to this reporting mark is California Contemporary, Inc., which doesn't seem right. I shot this in the SP/UP Roseville yard near the RIP track around 1987. I suspect the car is loaded with toxic waste of some sort. Any help with the car's origin and who it belonged to would be appreciated. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
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Re: Resource about Freight Car Brakes and Braking
Bill Welch
Just the messenger Dennis, just the messenger.
Bill Welch
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Re: Milk cars
Don Burn
If you mean ones that match the F&C kit. The answer is no, those were a unique Borden design. There were at least two GPEX cars that used a similar arrangement but were visibly different.
Don Burn
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Huber via groups.io
Did anyone besides Borden use the butterdish style cars?
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Re: Roof photo of a 7000-7099 Swift reefer
Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
Al, If you can find a copy of John Henderson's CLASSIC FREIGHT CARS, v. 3, there are two full-page panorama shots of Swift's Sioux City yard probably taken from the roof of a near-by building, as well as some other Swift cars in ground-level views. While I don't see any obvious 40' wooden cars, there are a number of 37' cars close to the camera which show good roof detail, especially the weathering. It appears that wooden cars in the red scheme had FCR red paint on their roofs, running boards and hatch covers. Most of the paint is gone on nearly every car showing dark gray weathered wood, though there are replacement boards in FCR. I can't find a single wooden car with a batten roof. Most Swift photos in this book are from 1954, and there are still a very few cars in the simple yellow scheme in evidence. Henderson includes a track-level 1961 view of SRLX 1020 in the silver scheme. Sadly, the roof is completely washed out and no details can be seen. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 7:33 PM Allan Smith <smithal9@...> wrote:
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Milk cars
Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
Did anyone besides Borden use the butterdish style cars?
Roger Huber
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Re: Resource about Freight Car Brakes and Braking
Dennis Storzek
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 03:19 PM, Bill Welch wrote:
A friend on Facebook found this resource and posted the link for it: http://sld-nmra.ca/freight_car/ref_material/braking_trains.pdf?fbclid=IwAR17qjVSUv_iuhFYt7PPsxfB0s2i-9GHQp-78PG96-tDDnc418RvfpzCIkoBill, Hate to say it, but there are better references around, with fewer errors of both fact and interpretation. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers
bill stanton
It also looks to me like the single herald versions of the r-40-19 and r-30-21 are using the incorrect later ("fatter") UP logo dating from about june 1946 whereas the rebuild dates are from march 1946 at least that's what i gather from reading Tony's PFE book...any
commentary or correction most welcomed on this as i would otherwise have bought these cars...(interestingly the single herald version of the r-30-18 rebuilt 9-42 looks to have the correct UP logo with the narrower waist)...
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tony Thompson <tony@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 2:55 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers Andy Cich wrote:
I haven’t tried to fix it yet. I’m not sure how easy it will be to pry the valve off. Also, the brake cylinder is too far away from the center sill and doesn’t connect to the lever. And the rod that connects between the levers should be inside the center sill. It is in the spot where the cylinder should go. The PFE car I just received is the same as Andy's photo. The (rather coarse) chain attached to the brake cylinder is just glued to
the center sill, no lever attachment, and the brake rodding is completely mixed up. Obviously quality control not in effect -- they have done a lot of these before.
At the same time, the rodding errors won't be visible in operation. The visually disturbing parts are the valve and reservoir being set so far from the floor.Tony Thompson
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Re: Roof photo of a 7000-7099 Swift reefer
Richard Townsend
How about this:
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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From: Allan Smith <smithal9@...> To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io> Sent: Mon, May 11, 2020 4:33 pm Subject: [RealSTMFC] Roof photo of a 7000-7099 Swift reefer I have an old Walthers 40' DS wood reefer with wood ends Swift 932-2428. With all the new 37' reefer models by Rapido, I began researching info on Swift reefers. I found a photo of SRLX 7045 that shows the B end and sides, this is a 40' length series of swift reefers. I think I can kitbash a reasonable model of this series using the Walthers kit. The cars were built in the 1930's so I am assuming they had a wood roof like the 37' Rapido cars. I model 1955 and my 1958 ORER shows there were still 81 cars in existence, so I think this would be car to contrast with the 37' wood and 40' steel Swift reefers in my fleet.
Any help with info on the roofs of these cars would be most helpful.
Thanks
Al Smith
Sonora CA
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Roof photo of a 7000-7099 Swift reefer
Allan Smith
I have an old Walthers 40' DS wood reefer with wood ends Swift 932-2428. With all the new 37' reefer models by Rapido, I began researching info on Swift reefers. I found a photo of SRLX 7045 that shows the B end and sides, this is a 40' length series of swift reefers. I think I can kitbash a reasonable model of this series using the Walthers kit. The cars were built in the 1930's so I am assuming they had a wood roof like the 37' Rapido cars. I model 1955 and my 1958 ORER shows there were still 81 cars in existence, so I think this would be car to contrast with the 37' wood and 40' steel Swift reefers in my fleet. Any help with info on the roofs of these cars would be most helpful. Thanks Al Smith Sonora CA
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Re: Oyster Cars
Dale Minard commented... While reading the Oyster Car article (NMRA Sunrise Trail Division Cannon Ball Fall 2014 issue), I noticed that Part 2 was to be published in the following issue (Winter 2014). A quick request to the editor resulted in the following link (in case anyone is interested): http://sunrisetraildiv.com/Cannonballs/4404Winter2014.pdf Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers
Just a thought, but is this their first batch of cars out of the new factory in China?
-- John
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Resource about Freight Car Brakes and Braking
Bill Welch
A friend on Facebook found this resource and posted the link for it: http://sld-nmra.ca/freight_car/ref_material/braking_trains.pdf?fbclid=IwAR17qjVSUv_iuhFYt7PPsxfB0s2i-9GHQp-78PG96-tDDnc418RvfpzCIko
Bill Welch
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Re: Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers
UPS just dropped them off. Ditto here on the twin logo ones. Y'a know I wouldn't be upset if these were $12 Tyco cars, but at $42.95 each??????? I think we've been robbed.
-- John
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Re: Latest run of Intermountain (Wegmann) HO PFE Rebuilt Reefers
Tony Thompson
Andy Cich wrote: I haven’t tried to fix it yet. I’m not sure how easy it will be to pry the valve off. Also, the brake cylinder is too far away from the center sill and doesn’t connect to the lever. And the rod that connects between the levers should be inside the center sill. It is in the spot where the cylinder should go. The PFE car I just received is the same as Andy's photo. The (rather coarse) chain attached to the brake cylinder is just glued to the center sill, no lever attachment, and the brake rodding is completely mixed up. Obviously quality control not in effect -- they have done a lot of these before. At the same time, the rodding errors won't be visible in operation. The visually disturbing parts are the valve and reservoir being set so far from the floor.Tony Thompson
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Photo: Boxcars IHB 5689 and NP 29177
Hudson Leighton
Boxcars IHB 5689 and NP 29177
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