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Re: C&O MW Photos Part 2

Tony Thompson
 

Nice-looking models, Bill! Glad to see some MW modeling.

Tony Thompson




Re: Ownership Of Tank Cars In 1950

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Friends,

A nice list, but I didn't see the Western Pacific listed here. In July 1949 (the closest ORER sheets I have to the 1950 list), they operated 209 tank cars. They included 62 10K AC&F high-walkway tanks (what we call "Type 7" IIRC), as well as 89 similar cars with low walkways, and 50 12K tanks (clones of SP cars). Now most of these were in company fuel service, possibly because they were loaded off-line, but the WP tank cars were listed as revenue cars.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 12:00 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Ownership Of Tank Cars In 1950

A list compiled by Jerry Britton:

https://jbritton.pennsyrr.com/index.php/tpm/97-interchange-ownership-of-tank-cars-in-1950

This list represents tank cars rostered in North America, according to the Official Railway Equipment Register. This list does not include milk tanks, vinegar tanks, pickle tanks or tanks specifically denoted for company service.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Where's this one come from?

Steve and Barb Hile
 

The RI 133000 – 133999 series was split between Betterdorf and ACF.  The ACF cars (500-999) had a roof fascia on the car end, as does the Fort Dodge car.

 

Here’s a photo in all its earlier glory.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Schleigh Mike via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 11:08 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io; main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Where's this one come from?

 

This is a former Rock Island B-2 "Fowler Clone" from their 133000-133999 series.  No model yet but it might be kit-bashed from the Westerfield offerings.  A specific model is planned by one of our smaller resin model suppliers.

 

Mike Schleigh in Grove City, Penna.

 

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 11:50:05 AM EDT, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:

 

 

Would like to know the origins of this car and if there was/is a model?
Thanks,
CW Propst


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] WP and SP&S 1944 AAR Boxcars -- C&BT Upgrades #4 & #5

Ken Adams
 

Very nice.

What were the dates for this version of the SP&S herald scheme. Is this post steam/1956?
--
Ken Adams
In splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek


Re: C&O MW Photos Part 2

O Fenton Wells
 

Bill, Well done, you will have great track as evidenced by the work gang cars.
Fenton

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:59 AM Bill McClure <virginianbill@...> wrote:
Long time lurker, but I have never posted. I am a long-time builder of, well, anything, including resin kits from the first offerings of Al W. I have also been a scratch builder since the 1960s. A few years ago I got an itch to try resin casting a series of C&O cars based on its 82,000-82,999 40-ton Auto Box, Class XAB, built 1924-25 by Illinois Car. The Hocking Valley had an identical series, 83,000-83,999, built 1924 by Pullman.

So here are three versions of essentially the same car body, as-built, C&O gray MOW dress, and the later green dress.

Bill



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


need help finding a photo

Brent Greer
 

At some time back in 2019 (perhaps a little earlier), there was a photo shared that showed a semi-truck auto transporter loaded with some 1959 Studebaker cars and trucks, and this trailer was being shipped on a TOFC flatcar (TTX I believe).   I have done every kind of search term combination I can think of, but I can't find this picture again.  Can someone please help me find it?

Sincere thanks,
Brent

Dr. J. Brent Greer


Re: Where's this one come from?

Schleigh Mike
 

This is a former Rock Island B-2 "Fowler Clone" from their 133000-133999 series.  No model yet but it might be kit-bashed from the Westerfield offerings.  A specific model is planned by one of our smaller resin model suppliers.

Mike Schleigh in Grove City, Penna.

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 11:50:05 AM EDT, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:


Would like to know the origins of this car and if there was/is a model?
Thanks,
CW Propst


Photos: T&NO 38781 And SP 26159 (B-50-11 Boxcars)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photos: T&NO 38781 And SP 26159 (B-50-11 Boxcars)

Photos from the Columbus Metropolitan Library.

T&NO 38781:

https://digital-collections.columbuslibrary.org/digital/collection/transport/id/2484/rec/15

This is a very clear photo and can be enlarged quite a bit. The stated date of 1910 is too early as the build date on the car is 1916.

SP 26159:

https://digital-collections.columbuslibrary.org/digital/collection/transport/id/2614/rec/18

My thanks to Bill West on the PRR Group for the link tip.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Ownership Of Tank Cars In 1950

Bob Chaparro
 

Ownership Of Tank Cars In 1950

A list compiled by Jerry Britton:

https://jbritton.pennsyrr.com/index.php/tpm/97-interchange-ownership-of-tank-cars-in-1950

This list represents tank cars rostered in North America, according to the Official Railway Equipment Register. This list does not include milk tanks, vinegar tanks, pickle tanks or tanks specifically denoted for company service.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] C&O MW Photos Part 2

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Nice cars, Bill!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill McClure
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 10:59 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] C&O MW Photos Part 2

 

Long time lurker, but I have never posted. I am a long-time builder of, well, anything, including resin kits from the first offerings of Al W. I have also been a scratch builder since the 1960s. A few years ago I got an itch to try resin casting a series of C&O cars based on its 82,000-82,999 40-ton Auto Box, Class XAB, built 1924-25 by Illinois Car. The Hocking Valley had an identical series, 83,000-83,999, built 1924 by Pullman.

 

So here are three versions of essentially the same car body, as-built, C&O gray MOW dress, and the later green dress.

 

Bill


Where's this one come from?

Clark Propst
 

Would like to know the origins of this car and if there was/is a model?
Thanks,
CW Propst


Re: Photo: Grain Sacks On Flat Cars

Bob Chaparro
 

Comments from the Early Rail Group:

The Monterey & Salinas Valley was built to move grain to port. When operating, sporadically from 1874 to 1880, it used every car it had in the annual fall grain rush—40 flats and 8 boxcars—to move thousands of sacks from shipping points (often just sacks stacked by the track) to the main warehouse at Monterey before the rains came. Using flats was a weakness, uncovered sacks on the cars did get wet and spoiled.

Dave Eggleston

+++

In California during the nineteenth century, sacks of grain were regularly shipped on flat cars.

Don Ball

++++

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: C&O MW Photos Part 2

Bill McClure
 

Long time lurker, but I have never posted. I am a long-time builder of, well, anything, including resin kits from the first offerings of Al W. I have also been a scratch builder since the 1960s. A few years ago I got an itch to try resin casting a series of C&O cars based on its 82,000-82,999 40-ton Auto Box, Class XAB, built 1924-25 by Illinois Car. The Hocking Valley had an identical series, 83,000-83,999, built 1924 by Pullman.

So here are three versions of essentially the same car body, as-built, C&O gray MOW dress, and the later green dress.

Bill


Re: Distinctive Flat Car Toothpicks Timber Load

Tim O'Connor
 


the car number looks like NP 697xx which would make it a 41 foot flat car



On 5/18/2020 1:23 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote:

More Toothpicks

A 1919 postcard photo from the Washington State Historical Society:

http://www.washingtonhistory.org/imu/api/file/5805

Description:

Lithograph colored promotional post card showing three large timbers on two flat cars, 1919. Labeled, "Washington Tooth Picks."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: C&O MW Photos

Bill McClure
 

I, too, spent a fair amount of time photographing C&O MOW equipment for the same reasons Garth mentioned. I must confess I trespassed many, many times, including over and under certain cars to fuel my modeling interests.

Here is a link to a gallery on my website with C&O MOW cars based on steam era boxcars:


Feel free to download any for personal uses, but please respect the copyright and do not use for commercial purposes without permission.

Bill


Re: Speedwitch Media Status?

O Fenton Wells
 

Jim I also received a decal order from him last week 
Fenton 


On May 18, 2020, at 10:57 PM, James Lackner <gp40p2@...> wrote:

Thanks everyone for your input on this.  I am not in a rush, and I know these small vendors have lots going on, so I'll hang tight and hope for the best for him.  I know I'll get it eventually.   It's not like I don't have anything else to work on in the meantime!

Jim Lackner


Re: Speedwitch Media Status?

James Lackner
 

Thanks everyone for your input on this.  I am not in a rush, and I know these small vendors have lots going on, so I'll hang tight and hope for the best for him.  I know I'll get it eventually.   It's not like I don't have anything else to work on in the meantime!

Jim Lackner


Re: C&O MW Photos

mofwcaboose <MOFWCABOOSE@...>
 

All too familiar a situation, in spite of more people thinking that anything having to do with railroads is worth a fortune.

I have two brothers; the younger  knows to a penny what an old snare drum is worth, but is totally unable to conceive  of the value of anything having to do with a railroad. The older has a somewhat better idea, but still would not know what to do in the event of my demise.

The situation is somewhat exacerbated because my negative collection is mostly MofW and cabooses, which few railfans and historians care about.

You should ask your sweetheart: "If these negatives were five-dollar bills, would you throw  them away?"

John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL


-----Original Message-----
From: Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Sent: Mon, May 18, 2020 4:43 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] C&O MW Photos

Bob,

I've considered that. My C&O/CSX negatives number over 500, plus around 200 for the Buckingham Branch Railroad (which I'm sure they would want), and more for lines associated with the C&O: Nelson & Albemarle, Shenandoah Valley, Rock Ten Paper, Shepherd Grain . . . Ouch! Someday they're going to get a CD, which should have the ID info attached to each image. First I owe their President an article on the Nelson & Albemarle which I wrote before I had health issues, but have never gotten back to finishing the photos.

My push right now is to get all my negatives scanned up and Photoshopped. I've nearly finished most of my binders including all the Virginia stuff since I moved to Charlottesville. The two big ones binders from California going back to the 1960s are maybe half done, but that still leaves maybe 2,000 images to work up.

Before I die, I hope to send all my stuff to various museums, since my sweetheart says when I go, it all goes too . . . right into the trash.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


Re: refrigerator car ice hatches

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

Hi Garth,

     The hatches were, for the most part, always in the same position on the reefers, right where the 
lateral roof walks were on a box car. So why does it make any difference which direction the ice hatches 
opened toward. The only icing machine I've ever seen was that f the Boston & Maine at the Mechanicville,
NY yard while it was still there 50 years ago. As I recall without trying to find my photos this machine had
its own set of rails straddling a single rack for the reefers. The machine would roll into position above the 
first car, four chutes were brought down into the mouths of the open ice bunkers and they were filled with
the required amount of ice. The chutes were then lifted clear of the top of the car before the machine moved 
along to the next car. Thus it didn't matter which way the hatch opened. Frankly I often wondered why the
didn't all open toward the center of the roof except that a car so equipped probably would not get enough
ventilation when needed, that way. Now,  if you are refering to Santa Fe cars with the Bohn Ventilation 
system that may be a horse of another color that I know noting about.

My best, Don Valentine


Re: L&N 65 foot Gondola photo

mark_landgraf
 

Joe 

As it turns out, L&N, and several others, seemed to like 20 panel fishbelly  gons. The early batches, one for L&N 25000-25299, and another for NC&StL 41000-41025 that were re# L&N 26200-26224, and were built by Pressed Steel Car in 1948 and 1949 respectively. They also made the same cars for Sou, CNW, WM, and SAL, also in 1948 and 1949. 

The newer L&N gons appear to all have been made by Greenville Steel Car in 1956, 1958 and 1965. 
Order 675  LN 26000
Order 718  LN 38900
Order 863. LN 25900

So which batch are you looking for?
Mark


On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 7:40 PM, Joseph
<Mstl852@...> wrote:
Thanks all!   The three that I have received will get him to decalling his car.  Thanks a bunch for your help
Joe Binish 

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 5:52 PM mark_landgraf via groups.io <mark_landgraf=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Joe

Can you identify cars manufacturer, when it was built, or other rrs that had the same car. Road numbers would be helpful too.  Fishbelly frame and or sides? What is the side panel count?

I have a lot photos but the first sort is by manufacturer. 

Mark Landgraf


On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 5:37 PM, Joseph
<Mstl852@...> wrote:
Hi all, 
Has anyone got a photo of the above in the 50s?   I have perused a bit on the net an haven’t gotten the search criteria correct yet


Thx,
Joe Binish
New Hope MN

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