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Re: [Espee] Photos: T&NO 38781 And SP 26159 (B-50-11 Boxcars)

Tony Thompson
 

Bob Chaparro wrote:

Photos: T&NO 38781 And SP 26159 (B-50-11 Boxcars)

      Nice photos. The B-50-11 class, 800 cars, was entirely built by Ralston in the fall of 1916. The photo shown of SP 26159 exists in a much better version in the National Archives of Canada, and I used that version in my book on SP box cars.

Tony Thompson




Re: Ownership Of Tank Cars In 1950

Charlie Vlk
 

All-

Note that this list may not be very accurate due to the way private owner cars are reported and listed in the ORER. 

For example, the John H. Grace Company is listed in Jerry’s compilation as only “DRDX” reporting marks and the PTLX and GRYX reporting marks also used by this company are not shown.   For some reason I can’t find John H. Grace in my 1950 Westerfield ORER disc but it does appear in the 1955 version and there all three reporting marks are listed.   The car count is not shown and if it were I would be very cautious about relying on it.  Results for other companies might be similar.

Charlie Vlk

PS- GRYX apparently had cars associated with the Mather Company in 1935

 

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Ownership Of Tank Cars In 1950

A list compiled by Jerry Britton:

https://jbritton.pennsyrr.com/index.php/tpm/97-interchange-ownership-of-tank-cars-in-1950

This list represents tank cars rostered in North America, according to the Official Railway Equipment Register. This list does not include milk tanks, vinegar tanks, pickle tanks or tanks specifically denoted for company service.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Where's this one come from?

O Fenton Wells
 

Boy the lettering of the Capy, Ld. Lmt. and Lt. Wt. will cost this guy many NMRA contest points for sloppy decaling. Too bad as it is a nice looking car other than that.
Fenton

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 1:21 PM Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:

The RI 133000 – 133999 series was split between Betterdorf and ACF.  The ACF cars (500-999) had a roof fascia on the car end, as does the Fort Dodge car.

 

Here’s a photo in all its earlier glory.

 

Steve Hile

 

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This is a former Rock Island B-2 "Fowler Clone" from their 133000-133999 series.  No model yet but it might be kit-bashed from the Westerfield offerings.  A specific model is planned by one of our smaller resin model suppliers.

 

Mike Schleigh in Grove City, Penna.

 

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 11:50:05 AM EDT, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:

 

 

Would like to know the origins of this car and if there was/is a model?
Thanks,
CW Propst



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: C&O MW Photos Part 2

Tony Thompson
 

Nice-looking models, Bill! Glad to see some MW modeling.

Tony Thompson




Re: Ownership Of Tank Cars In 1950

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Friends,

A nice list, but I didn't see the Western Pacific listed here. In July 1949 (the closest ORER sheets I have to the 1950 list), they operated 209 tank cars. They included 62 10K AC&F high-walkway tanks (what we call "Type 7" IIRC), as well as 89 similar cars with low walkways, and 50 12K tanks (clones of SP cars). Now most of these were in company fuel service, possibly because they were loaded off-line, but the WP tank cars were listed as revenue cars.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 12:00 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Ownership Of Tank Cars In 1950

A list compiled by Jerry Britton:

https://jbritton.pennsyrr.com/index.php/tpm/97-interchange-ownership-of-tank-cars-in-1950

This list represents tank cars rostered in North America, according to the Official Railway Equipment Register. This list does not include milk tanks, vinegar tanks, pickle tanks or tanks specifically denoted for company service.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Where's this one come from?

Steve and Barb Hile
 

The RI 133000 – 133999 series was split between Betterdorf and ACF.  The ACF cars (500-999) had a roof fascia on the car end, as does the Fort Dodge car.

 

Here’s a photo in all its earlier glory.

 

Steve Hile

 

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Where's this one come from?

 

This is a former Rock Island B-2 "Fowler Clone" from their 133000-133999 series.  No model yet but it might be kit-bashed from the Westerfield offerings.  A specific model is planned by one of our smaller resin model suppliers.

 

Mike Schleigh in Grove City, Penna.

 

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 11:50:05 AM EDT, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:

 

 

Would like to know the origins of this car and if there was/is a model?
Thanks,
CW Propst


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] WP and SP&S 1944 AAR Boxcars -- C&BT Upgrades #4 & #5

Ken Adams
 

Very nice.

What were the dates for this version of the SP&S herald scheme. Is this post steam/1956?
--
Ken Adams
In splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek


Re: C&O MW Photos Part 2

O Fenton Wells
 

Bill, Well done, you will have great track as evidenced by the work gang cars.
Fenton

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:59 AM Bill McClure <virginianbill@...> wrote:
Long time lurker, but I have never posted. I am a long-time builder of, well, anything, including resin kits from the first offerings of Al W. I have also been a scratch builder since the 1960s. A few years ago I got an itch to try resin casting a series of C&O cars based on its 82,000-82,999 40-ton Auto Box, Class XAB, built 1924-25 by Illinois Car. The Hocking Valley had an identical series, 83,000-83,999, built 1924 by Pullman.

So here are three versions of essentially the same car body, as-built, C&O gray MOW dress, and the later green dress.

Bill



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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need help finding a photo

Brent Greer
 

At some time back in 2019 (perhaps a little earlier), there was a photo shared that showed a semi-truck auto transporter loaded with some 1959 Studebaker cars and trucks, and this trailer was being shipped on a TOFC flatcar (TTX I believe).   I have done every kind of search term combination I can think of, but I can't find this picture again.  Can someone please help me find it?

Sincere thanks,
Brent

Dr. J. Brent Greer


Re: Where's this one come from?

Schleigh Mike
 

This is a former Rock Island B-2 "Fowler Clone" from their 133000-133999 series.  No model yet but it might be kit-bashed from the Westerfield offerings.  A specific model is planned by one of our smaller resin model suppliers.

Mike Schleigh in Grove City, Penna.

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 11:50:05 AM EDT, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:


Would like to know the origins of this car and if there was/is a model?
Thanks,
CW Propst


Photos: T&NO 38781 And SP 26159 (B-50-11 Boxcars)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photos: T&NO 38781 And SP 26159 (B-50-11 Boxcars)

Photos from the Columbus Metropolitan Library.

T&NO 38781:

https://digital-collections.columbuslibrary.org/digital/collection/transport/id/2484/rec/15

This is a very clear photo and can be enlarged quite a bit. The stated date of 1910 is too early as the build date on the car is 1916.

SP 26159:

https://digital-collections.columbuslibrary.org/digital/collection/transport/id/2614/rec/18

My thanks to Bill West on the PRR Group for the link tip.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Ownership Of Tank Cars In 1950

Bob Chaparro
 

Ownership Of Tank Cars In 1950

A list compiled by Jerry Britton:

https://jbritton.pennsyrr.com/index.php/tpm/97-interchange-ownership-of-tank-cars-in-1950

This list represents tank cars rostered in North America, according to the Official Railway Equipment Register. This list does not include milk tanks, vinegar tanks, pickle tanks or tanks specifically denoted for company service.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] C&O MW Photos Part 2

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Nice cars, Bill!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

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Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] C&O MW Photos Part 2

 

Long time lurker, but I have never posted. I am a long-time builder of, well, anything, including resin kits from the first offerings of Al W. I have also been a scratch builder since the 1960s. A few years ago I got an itch to try resin casting a series of C&O cars based on its 82,000-82,999 40-ton Auto Box, Class XAB, built 1924-25 by Illinois Car. The Hocking Valley had an identical series, 83,000-83,999, built 1924 by Pullman.

 

So here are three versions of essentially the same car body, as-built, C&O gray MOW dress, and the later green dress.

 

Bill


Where's this one come from?

Clark Propst
 

Would like to know the origins of this car and if there was/is a model?
Thanks,
CW Propst


Re: Photo: Grain Sacks On Flat Cars

Bob Chaparro
 

Comments from the Early Rail Group:

The Monterey & Salinas Valley was built to move grain to port. When operating, sporadically from 1874 to 1880, it used every car it had in the annual fall grain rush—40 flats and 8 boxcars—to move thousands of sacks from shipping points (often just sacks stacked by the track) to the main warehouse at Monterey before the rains came. Using flats was a weakness, uncovered sacks on the cars did get wet and spoiled.

Dave Eggleston

+++

In California during the nineteenth century, sacks of grain were regularly shipped on flat cars.

Don Ball

++++

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: C&O MW Photos Part 2

Bill McClure
 

Long time lurker, but I have never posted. I am a long-time builder of, well, anything, including resin kits from the first offerings of Al W. I have also been a scratch builder since the 1960s. A few years ago I got an itch to try resin casting a series of C&O cars based on its 82,000-82,999 40-ton Auto Box, Class XAB, built 1924-25 by Illinois Car. The Hocking Valley had an identical series, 83,000-83,999, built 1924 by Pullman.

So here are three versions of essentially the same car body, as-built, C&O gray MOW dress, and the later green dress.

Bill


Re: Distinctive Flat Car Toothpicks Timber Load

Tim O'Connor
 


the car number looks like NP 697xx which would make it a 41 foot flat car



On 5/18/2020 1:23 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote:

More Toothpicks

A 1919 postcard photo from the Washington State Historical Society:

http://www.washingtonhistory.org/imu/api/file/5805

Description:

Lithograph colored promotional post card showing three large timbers on two flat cars, 1919. Labeled, "Washington Tooth Picks."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: C&O MW Photos

Bill McClure
 

I, too, spent a fair amount of time photographing C&O MOW equipment for the same reasons Garth mentioned. I must confess I trespassed many, many times, including over and under certain cars to fuel my modeling interests.

Here is a link to a gallery on my website with C&O MOW cars based on steam era boxcars:


Feel free to download any for personal uses, but please respect the copyright and do not use for commercial purposes without permission.

Bill


Re: Speedwitch Media Status?

O Fenton Wells
 

Jim I also received a decal order from him last week 
Fenton 


On May 18, 2020, at 10:57 PM, James Lackner <gp40p2@...> wrote:

Thanks everyone for your input on this.  I am not in a rush, and I know these small vendors have lots going on, so I'll hang tight and hope for the best for him.  I know I'll get it eventually.   It's not like I don't have anything else to work on in the meantime!

Jim Lackner


Re: Speedwitch Media Status?

James Lackner
 

Thanks everyone for your input on this.  I am not in a rush, and I know these small vendors have lots going on, so I'll hang tight and hope for the best for him.  I know I'll get it eventually.   It's not like I don't have anything else to work on in the meantime!

Jim Lackner

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