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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] ACC problems

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

If you buy the small squeeze tubes that hold only a fractional ounce, the ones typically sold in multi-packs, none of this is an issue. You just toss it out whenever it is less than perfect, and open a new one. When you do this you always are assured to be using a recently opened fresh tube. No need to worry about any of the above issues at all
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

From: steve_wintner via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 1:22 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] ACC problems
 
I've always assumed keeping it in the fridge was an attempt to keep it in a lower absolute humidity environment, though it may also be about lowering reaction rate. Dessicant should help too. 


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Freight Car of the Day the G31D truck frame car

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Thanks, Ron!  Parrish gives me déjà vu.  I will look into it.

 

Thanks!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob M. via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 12:42 AM
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Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Freight Car of the Day the G31D truck frame car

 

My first “guess” would be Parrish/Dana in Reading PA as they manufactured auto and truck frames.

The Reading did serve Mack Trucks in Allentown but I don’t recall ever seeing any truck frame cars.   I have seen R model Mack cabs on flat cars but that’s beyond the era of this list. 


Rob Mondichak 


Re: ACC problems

Denis Kahl
 

I have also recently run into a shelf life issue with ACC and nothing would stick even with accelerator. No idea how long I have had it but probably several years. Buying a new bottle fixed the issue. I keep it in a sealed jar with dessicant.

Denis Kahl
Melbourne
Australia


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] ACC problems

steve_wintner
 

I've always assumed keeping it in the fridge was an attempt to keep it in a lower absolute humidity environment, though it may also be about lowering reaction rate. Dessicant should help too. 


Re: Paint Fading Solution

WILLIAM PARDIE
 


Does anyone know if Rapido plans to restock their Proto Paint "Flat Haze" weathering solution?

Bill Pardie


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Re: Freight Car of the Day the G31D truck frame car

Rob M.
 
Edited

My first “guess” would be Parrish/Dana in Reading PA as they manufactured auto and truck frames.

The Reading did serve Mack Trucks in Allentown but I don’t recall ever seeing any truck frame cars.   I have seen R model Mack cabs on flat cars but that’s beyond the era of this list. 

I’ve been digging to see if at this time the Budd company would have been making auto or truck frames at their Hunting Park factory in north Philly but so far nada  

Rob Mondichak 


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] ACC problems

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On May 27, 2020, at 19:37, Jon Miller <atsfus@gmail.com> wrote:

On 5/27/2020 7:18 PM, Dan Smith wrote:
WW2 as part of a project to develop clear plastic gunsights.
Google is my friend. It was Eastman910 (or I guess E910)

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2011/08/super-glue-was-invented-by-accident-twice/
See the Wikipedia page:<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanoacrylate>


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] ACC problems

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On May 27, 2020, at 19:26, Jon Miller <atsfus@gmail.com> wrote:

On 5/27/2020 7:18 PM, Dan Smith wrote:
WW2 as part of a project to develop clear plastic gunsights.
Never hear that one (doesn't mean it's not true) but I started using it in early 1960. It was made by Eastman Kodak and I think called 510 (or E510). At that time it was understood it was designed for gluing spliced film together.
Aron Alpha dates back to 1963; I ran out of E510 and a friend suggested I try the other. The web site, <https://aronalpha.net/>, bills it as "high performance".


Re: A Bad Day For PRR Merchandise Boxcar 53312

Brian Termunde
 

By golly! Some of my fellow club members DO operate prototypically! <VBG>

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah

A Bad Day For PRR Merchandise Boxcar 53312
From: Bob Chaparro
Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 14:24:02 PDT
A Bad Day For PRR Merchandise Boxcar 53312

A 1956 photo from the Temple University Libraries:
This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.
Description: "Boxcar is upended and six other cars are derailed after switching engine backed onto a siding already occupied by a freight train in the Pennsylvania Railroad's 44th st. yard."
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] ACC problems

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 5/27/2020 7:18 PM, Dan Smith wrote:
WW2 as part of a project to develop clear plastic gunsights.

Google is my friend.  It was Eastman910 (or I guess E910)

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2011/08/super-glue-was-invented-by-accident-twice/

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] ACC problems

 

Eastman 910

Dan Smith


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] ACC problems

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 5/27/2020 7:18 PM, Dan Smith wrote:
WW2 as part of a project to develop clear plastic gunsights.

    Never hear that one (doesn't mean it's not true) but I started using it in early 1960.  It was made by Eastman Kodak and I think called 510 (or E510).  At that time it was understood it was designed for gluing spliced film together.

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] ACC problems

 

Tim,

Super glue, CA, was invented, accidentally, in WW2 as part of a project to develop clear plastic gunsights.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Coover

Dan Smith


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] ACC problems

Tim O'Connor
 


I've never understood what the refrigeration is supposed to do.

CA loves water vapor - any H2O molecules will start 'spoiling' it. (CA was originally invented for
fast closure of soldiers' wounds in combat.) So storing it in a Tupperware with DESSICANT may help!

I recently transferred a fresh Zap bottle to a Tamiya bottle. Tamiya plastic caps are utterly airtight in my
experience. (I store all kinds of stuff in them from contact cement to canopy glue to MEK and Acetone.)
I don't know how well the Zap will keep in the Tamiya bottle, but I will find out.

https://www.amainhobbies.com/tamiya-paint-mixing-jar-23ml-bottle-tam81041/p125149

Tim O'Connor



On 5/27/2020 6:06 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:

Don;

 

My experience with ACC is that it does go bad.  I never had luck with the big bottles, even refrigerated.  They went bad.

 

I buy packs of the little tubes from big box stores, because they cycle thru quickly, and are fresh.  If one goes bad, I open a new one.

 

Zero frustration.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of BRIAN PAUL EHNI
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:54 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] ACC problems

 

Does the ACC still work on other stuff? Does a new bottle work?  

Thanks!

Brian Ehni


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: A Bad Day For PRR Boxcar 566640

maynard stowe
 

Wouldn’t you rather drive a Buick?


Photo: Norfolk & Western Livestock Car 27699 (Built 1913)

David
 

These were an extrapolation of the original 1902 Seley-design box car on N&W.

David Thompson


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] ACC problems

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Don;

 

My experience with ACC is that it does go bad.  I never had luck with the big bottles, even refrigerated.  They went bad.

 

I buy packs of the little tubes from big box stores, because they cycle thru quickly, and are fresh.  If one goes bad, I open a new one.

 

Zero frustration.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of BRIAN PAUL EHNI
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 4:54 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] ACC problems

 

Does the ACC still work on other stuff? Does a new bottle work?  

Thanks!

Brian Ehni 

(Sent from my iPhone)



On May 27, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Donald B. Valentine via groups.io <riverman_vt@...> wrote:



   I have been assembling resin car kits for some 35 years now beginning with Dennis Storzek's Rutland 

box cars back when the material was a lot tougher than resin and Al Westerfield's kits when he was using 

really brittle resin, always using ACC but never having experienced the problem I've had for the last week.

I've been trying to assemble one of Steve Funaro's kits that seems no different than the many of his I've

also assembled before BUT the damned ACC is not cementing parts together. I beleive the bottle is now 

three years old and is kept in the refrigerator when not being used regularly. It doesn't seem to matter 

whether I try to use it right out of the refrigerator or after it has sat out at room temperature for a day it 

simply does not work. Does ths stuff have a shelf life that I've never been aware of or has anyone else

experienced the same problem? Guess I'll go back to styrene for awhile rather than waste more time 

only to get more frustrated. 

 

Don Valentine


Freight Car of the Day the G31D truck frame car

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

All;

 

On this fine car is routing stenciling to Reading Co, Philmont, PA.  Does anyone know the complete routing, and how this guy was used?  I know Reading had the originator, but whose truck frames? Where were they bound?

 

Nice car, huh?

 

Read the latest Keystone Modeler for Jack Consoli’s build of a general service G31D.

 

Thanks!

 

Elden Gatwood


Re: A Bad Day For PRR Merchandise Boxcar 53312

Richard Townsend
 

I see what you mean: coupler broke.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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From: Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
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Sent: Wed, May 27, 2020 2:24 pm
Subject: [RealSTMFC] A Bad Day For PRR Merchandise Boxcar 53312

A Bad Day For PRR Merchandise Boxcar 53312
A 1956 photo from the Temple University Libraries:
This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.
Description: "Boxcar is upended and six other cars are derailed after switching engine backed onto a siding already occupied by a freight train in the Pennsylvania Railroad's 44th st. yard."
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


A Bad Day For PRR Boxcar 566640

Bob Chaparro
 

A Bad Day For PRR Boxcar 566640

A 1950 photo from the Temple University Libraries:

https://digital.library.temple.edu/digital/collection/p15037coll3/id/67175/rec/26

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit. Good roof detail.

Description:

"Boxcar and overturned coal car await removal from base of wooded Fairmount Park hillside along West River drive, below Columbia av. bridge, after jumping track and unloosing an avalanche of uprooted trees."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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