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Re: Rock Island flats
mel perry
hi: if you are one of the keepers of the flame, would you have a copy of both the data and instruction sheet for kit #17.6, 17.7 or 17.8 thanks mel perry
On Fri, May 29, 2020, 6:39 PM Jim Hayes <jimhayes97225@...> wrote:
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Re: IM Kits, Was New IM cars arrive
mel perry
the sad truth is, is the hobby is a business and that IM can make more money selling RTR, if you want kits and parts, support the manufacturers who manufacture these items mel perry
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Re: IM Kits, Was New IM cars arrive
Fred Swanson
What about this page? Does anyone know a shop that orders kits?
Fred Swanson
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Re: Cable Reel Loads
Photo: Cable Load Photo from the Los Angeles Public Library website and in the collection of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power: https://dbase1.lapl.org/images/dwp/ws/1005232.jpg Description: "First shipment of hollow copper conductor from new plant built in Los Angeles by General Cable Corp. was made May 1934. The ten reels shown loaded on flat car comprise a load of 50 tons. Each reel is wond with a mile of cable, 1620 miles being required for the completed transmission line." Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Rock Island flats
Jim Hayes
Tagging on to Brian's email. If anyone has the PDS and/or instructions for the Sunshine #49 flatcars, would you share with me? There's a hole in my collection there. Thanks, JimH
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Re: Rock Island flats
Ross Dando just released an O Scale resin kit of this car as well.
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Thanks! Brian Ehni (Sent from my iPhone)
On May 29, 2020, at 8:29 PM, Jim Hayes <jimhayes97225@...> wrote:
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Re: Rock Island flats
Jim Hayes
Sunshine kit #45.9 is probably what your looking for. Here's a Sunshine flyer for it. JimH
Looking for photos of the Rock Island 90800 series flats. Cars had single-spliced side sills, unsure if the center sills were spliced. Cars were built as War Emergency cars in 42-43. Have a partial shot of the end sill but a full shot would be better. Thanks in advance for any help you guys might be able to provide.
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IM Kits, Was New IM cars arrive
Andy Carlson
About a year ago I requested 700+ kits of former RC/IMWX '37 AAR box cars. I was waiting for awhile and the promised response never came. I gather that they are making enough money that kits and parts are not a worthy venture of their time. Funny, I miss Frank....... -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
On Friday, May 29, 2020, 6:09:06 PM PDT, Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...> wrote:
Hi Ken, This is a question for IM. Idealy one person would gather the kit orders and deal with IM. The order needs to be significant, probably a minimum of 50 of one product number, and has to be organized and commited to, at the time of product announcement. Then you might get IM's attention. And no, I am not volunteering. Ted Schnepf Alas RTR. Will IM ever get around to the kits again? -- Ken Adams
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Rock Island flats
cmrp48
Looking for photos of the Rock Island 90800 series flats. Cars had single-spliced side sills, unsure if the center sills were spliced. Cars were built as War Emergency cars in 42-43. Have a partial shot of the end sill but a full shot would be better. Thanks in advance for any help you guys might be able to provide.
Robert Leners
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Re: New IM cars arrive
Ted Schnepf
Hi Ken, This is a question for IM. Idealy one person would gather the kit orders and deal with IM. The order needs to be significant, probably a minimum of 50 of one product number, and has to be organized and commited to, at the time of product announcement. Then you might get IM's attention. And no, I am not volunteering. Ted Schnepf 126 Will Scarlet, Elgin, Ill. 60120 847=697-5353
On Friday, May 29, 2020, 06:55:45 PM CDT, Ken Adams <smadanek44g@...> wrote: Alas RTR. Will IM ever get around to the kits again? -- Ken Adams In splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek
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Re: New IM cars arrive
Alas RTR. Will IM ever get around to the kits again?
-- Ken Adams In splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek
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Re: Photo: UP "See Though" Boxcar 195220
Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
Steve, The Wathers car was actually a copy of John Allen's design from the early 1960s. IIRC, he had two built to fit an Athearn 40' boxcar shell, and could change the body to keep his operators on their toes. If the ball rolled into a spring metal tongue at either end of the car, a light would flash. If the impact was extreme, the ball dropped into a catch point at the end of the track and the light stayed on. Another funzie that was commercially available in the 1970s was an underframe with a flywheel connected to one of the truck axles by a rubber band. This also was meant to fit under an Athearn or Roundhouse boxcar body. Supposedly you could kick the car loose and it would coast into a siding. I had two and they not only didn't live up to their hype, but also the truck with the rubber band had a restricted radius, making the car was prone to derailments. Let it be known that I got rid of these turkeys many, many years ago. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 6:10 PM Steven D Johnson <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:
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Re: Cable Reel Loads
Dennis Storzek
On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 01:23 PM, Bruce Smith wrote:
But I do plan to have catenary and of course that requires maintenance, and in progress on my bench right now is a wire train, wire reel car, which will need wire reels with wire.Copperweld is definitely the product to use. Copper coated seven and nine strand steel cable, it was the material of choice for all parts of overhead except the contact wire. Back in the seventies I worked for a couple weeks cutting down the Chicago trolleybus overhead system after abandonment, and everything was Copperweld except the contact wire, which was solid phosphor bronze, IIRC. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Photo: UP "See Though" Boxcar 195220
Steven D Johnson
Bob,
This looks to me to be an impact demonstration car. L&N’s South Louisville Shop built one out of an old single-sheathed 40 ft boxcar in late 1955. This car toured the L&N system to promote loss and damage prevention through safe coupling speeds. On one side of the car, a large speedometer with a plexiglass dial and indicator registered coupling speeds up to 15 mph. (The speedometer has its metal covering on in the attached photo, which is dated September 1960). On the same side at floor level, a scale, marked in feet and inches, extended the length of the car, and served to show much of the “load” had shifted. The “load” consisted of an old lathe and air pump, weighing 9,600 lbs, mounted on wooden skids. The car also featured electric lights and was equipped with a gasoline-powered motor/generator. This was quite an attractive car, painted in L&N’s passenger car blue, silver and yellow/gold lettering and striping, and the “steam era” L&N herald.
Many may remember the old Walther’s “Tongue-In-Cheek” HO model of an impact demo car. As I recall, it had a steel ball bearing riding on a piece of N-scale (?) track inside the car, with a warning light that was activated by rough coupling.
Steve Johnson Nashville, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Photo: UP "See Though" Boxcar 195220 A 1953 photo from the Temple University Libraries: https://digital.library.temple.edu/digital/collection/p15037coll3/id/20067/rec/494 This photo can be enlarged quite a bit. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Cable Reel Loads
Mont Switzer
Bruce,
There is your answer. Note the wood used inside the reel to protect what was.probably electrical cable. Wire rope needed no such mlm protection.
Mont Switzer
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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From: "spsalso via groups.io" <Edwardsutorik@...>
Date: 5/29/20 4:21 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Cable Reel Loads
Here is a photo taken at Belle Mead Supply Depot:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-voMewETJ_b0/WPpyRmDfzOI/AAAAAAAAOD4/YAwpikGdmDstH1A09ECuna1vM5er72wWgCK4B/s1600/Scan-140520-0002.jpg and here's the article it's from: http://blogs.mycentraljersey.com/hillsborough/2017/04/22/hillsboroughs-belle-mead-gsa-depot/ Ed Edward Sutorik
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New IM cars arrive
Ted Schnepf
Hello,
A big box of new Intermountain HO boxcars has jsut arrived. There are some very interesting road names for sale. The newest batch of cars is 10' 6" modified 1937 AAR boxcars in the following roads: Rock Island New York Central Fort Worth and Denver Missouri Pacfic MP-Missouri-Illinois Erie Erie Lack. Southern- billboard Union Pacific Chicago North Western Gulf Mobile and Ohio Toledo, Peoria and Westerm, drak green and yellow Duluth South Shore and Atlantic Soo Line (early herald) Canadian Pacific They come in 6 road number each, RTR and discounted pricing. These cars join the other recent shipments of PFE wood reefers in three clases amd 7 paint variations with Dick Harley helping IM get the lettering and painting correct. And prior to that, the 10' 1937 boxcars with Deco ends C&O and B&O, and CN, C&EI, AEC. Copper Range, DLW,and Ontario Northland. Contact me off list if interested. Rails Unlimited Ted Schnepf 126 Will Scarlet, Elgin, Ill. 60120 847=697-5353
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Re: Evangeline Railway
Paul Doggett
Garth
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Thank I will sent it to my friend in Louisiana. Regards Paul Doggett
On 29 May 2020, at 20:43, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...> wrote:
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Re: ATSF Mineral Brown
Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
Unless you're building a model for a builder's photo any combination and variation on a similar of close color ought to be good for our models. Paint, especially back then, had wider color range than what we have today. Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works
On Friday, May 29, 2020, 02:38:29 PM CDT, Doug Pillow <jssp46@...> wrote:
I know its not perfect but for me post '45 I mixed half Scalecoat II Boxcar red and Tuscan red Doug Pillow
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Re: Cable Reel Loads
Ed,
PERFECT! Thank you! Cable reels, made of steel, were clearly in use as of June 1, 1944 (the date of the newspaper story!)
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of spsalso via groups.io <Edwardsutorik@...>
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 3:21 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Cable Reel Loads Here is a photo taken at Belle Mead Supply Depot:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-voMewETJ_b0/WPpyRmDfzOI/AAAAAAAAOD4/YAwpikGdmDstH1A09ECuna1vM5er72wWgCK4B/s1600/Scan-140520-0002.jpg and here's the article it's from: http://blogs.mycentraljersey.com/hillsborough/2017/04/22/hillsboroughs-belle-mead-gsa-depot/ Ed Edward Sutorik
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Re: Cable Reel Loads
Schuyler,
The decals are freaking awesome! (One reason to look for more) Most of them are in a semi-circular arc. They are black, with some duplicates in white. Symbols are also included for some.
General Cable (white as well) + symbol
Okonite Passaic N.J.+ symbol
Kaiser Wire K/W + symbol
Simplex Wire & Cable Co. Cambridge Mass (white as well)
Crescent Trenton, NJ
Anaconda Wire + symbol
Bronco
Kerite (white as well)
Roebling
Copperweld
Diamond Wire and Cable Co. Sycamore, ILL
Rome Cable Rome G.A. (white as well)
General Electric + symbol
Crapo
Indiana Steel and Wire Co.
Now, the reels made of steel would just be loads going somewhere so they can have cable, wire, whatever.... But I do plan to have catenary and of course that requires maintenance, and in progress on my bench right now is a wire train, wire reel car, which will
need wire reels with wire. These though were wooden, and I have several already at hand, and more on the way from Israel. Representing the wire is challenging, but will happen with thin copper (likely 0.005") wrapped over a filler. Unused reels were often
wrapped in heavy tan paper so I plan to use newsprint to replicate that. Plus, of course, shredding some and leaving it in the wire reel car.
Regards,
Bruce
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...>
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 12:08 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Cable Reel Loads Well, the point of my inquiry was about the markings (decals) that Bruce has. Do they cover both steel cable (or as Bruce pointed out, wire rope) AND electrical cables? IOW, what would he be winding on the reels?
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