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Re: SLRX 4216

Jon Miller
 

On 5/31/2020 5:23 PM, brianleppert@... wrote:
Athearn and Kadee sell the B-1 truck.

    I looked up the Athearn B-1.  They want $23 for 2 pair, this seems really high!

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Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
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Re: SLRX 4216

brianleppert@att.net
 

Attached is a National Malleable and Steel Castings Co. ad from the Aug. 30, 1941 Railway Age, showing both their B and B-1 trucks.  A noticeable difference between the two are the bolster ends.  Also the springs on the earlier  B truck were larger diameter than usual and as the capacity increased so did their diameters, but the wheelbase stayed the same.

P2K/Walthers offers the B truck, while Athearn and Kadee sell the B-1 truck.

This afternoon I tried downloading this scan into both Files and Photos, but neither would accept new additions.  If interest in seeing it, just contact me off-list at brianleppert at att dot net.


Re: Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car

Bill Welch
 

Really very well done modeler who did not ID themselves.

Bill Welch


Re: National Car Co. NX 6898

Bob Chaparro
 

This car has meat rails.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: SLSX 3600

mel perry
 

i am probably mistaken, but it was my
understanding that mather used commercial steel products such as
angles, etc., as well.as channels,
whereas the side mrmbers are almost
"z""s members?
mel perry


On Sun, May 31, 2020, 4:57 PM Todd Sullivan via groups.io <sullivant41=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
This car has a resemblance to Mather stock cars - the diagonal channel at the ends and the bracing on the ends, in particular.  Any thoughts, anyone?

Todd Sullivan


Re: SLSX 3600

Todd Sullivan
 

This car has a resemblance to Mather stock cars - the diagonal channel at the ends and the bracing on the ends, in particular.  Any thoughts, anyone?

Todd Sullivan


Re: SLRX 4216

Todd Sullivan
 

The trucks are National B-1.

Todd Sullivan


GATX 26452

Richard Wilkens
 

One last view, this is GATX 26452 leased to Anheuser Busch for corn syrup. Car is at Taylor Yard in Los Angeles in September 1958.

Richard Wilkens


Re: SLRX 4216

brianleppert@att.net
 

Those are National Type B.  Originally offered by Proto2000 in HO.  Now sold by Walthers and mislabeled as a National B-1.

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works
Carson City, NV


GATX 70977

Richard Wilkens
 

Nice view of freshly built GATX 70977 tank car leased to Archer-Daniels-Midland at Sharon, PA on October 12, 1958.

Richard Wilkens


SLSX 3600

Richard Wilkens
 

Swift Livestock Express stock car SLSX 3600 at Milwaukee, WI in October 1958.

Richard Wilkens


Re: What is This Tank Body?

Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek
 

Fred,

 

Looks remarkably like the fuel tank at the Quincy enginehouse.

 

Hope you are well.

 

 

Jim vG

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Fred Jansz
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 2:05 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] What is This Tank Body?

 

Here's a more detailed pic of the car/tank in question
Fred Jansz


Re: National Car Co. NX 6898

Ray Hutchison
 

wonderful photo/find, Richard.


On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:39 PM Richard Wilkens <railsnw123@...> wrote:
Was busy doing some scanning and came across this slide of National Car Company NX 6898 taken in October 1956. I find the leasing info interesting as Fruit Growers Express owner lessor, National Car Co. Lessee Sub-Lessor, and Armour and Co. Sub-Lessee.

Richard Wilkens

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Re: Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car

leakinmywaders
 

UTLX 103W Red Caboose tank car with Plano walkways. Steve Hile decals, outer edges of main deck walkways reinforced with 0.010" styrene strip. I should have reinforced the dome access walkways that way too (and got them a little more level).


SLRX 4216

Richard Wilkens
 

Here is another refrigerator car, SLRX 4216 at Terminal Island in Los Angeles in April 1958. What type of trucks are these?

Richard Wilkens


National Car Co. NX 6898

Richard Wilkens
 

Was busy doing some scanning and came across this slide of National Car Company NX 6898 taken in October 1956. I find the leasing info interesting as Fruit Growers Express owner lessor, National Car Co. Lessee Sub-Lessor, and Armour and Co. Sub-Lessee.

Richard Wilkens


Re: PRR X26C with both Superior door and 'Stanray' diagonal panel roof

Benjamin Scanlon
 

Thanks Brian, I heard something like this in relation to other cars. 

Cheers
--
Ben Scanlon
Tottenham, England


Re: Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car

csxt5555
 

Does anyone know where I can find drawings for the X-3?

Kevin


On May 31, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Dave Parker via groups.io <spottab@...> wrote:

The absence of a decent X-3 in plastic is a never-ending source of mystery to me.  Almost 20,000 cars, seen everywhere.  Who wouldn't want some, especially if they were done well?
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car

Dave Parker
 

The absence of a decent X-3 in plastic is a never-ending source of mystery to me.  Almost 20,000 cars, seen everywhere.  Who wouldn't want some, especially if they were done well?
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car

Bruce Smith
 

Garth,

The teeth gnashing, at least from myself and several others that care about tank cars, was that RC choose such an oddball prototype instead of doing a common car. If they had picked the UTLX X-3 and done if a bunch of foodies, I don't think you would have heard the complaints you did when they did this oddball.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 1:45 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car
 
Tim,

The teeth gnashing about this car was over all the fake-o roadnames RC and IM have issued it in. The list of prototypes for this car was very slim, according to Richard Hendrickson, and some of those he cited had surrounding dome platforms. I have built one (GATX, which is spurious--must repaint someday), and think it is a very nice model.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 1:07 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
Garth

I don't know about any lamentations... but it's pretty much an exact match to the Red Caboose model
if you replace the running boards with open-grid steel. Plano makes an etched metal set for the model.

The US Army (DOD) and UTLX were the largest buyers for the cars represented by the model. Perhaps
people lament inaccurate paint schemes, but then they'd be lamenting most of what is out there in hobbyland.

I think Red Caboose offered both Army and UTLX paint schemes. I know I sent pictures to Bill.



On 5/31/2020 5:54 AM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:
Steve, 

Nice list, but you forgot that UTLX bought 500 welded ACF 10K cars in 1951, their series 39000-39499. Richard Hendrickson
identified the often-lamented Red Caboose model as a suitable representation of these cars.

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

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