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Re: Vallejo Paints for Steam Era Freight Cars

Ken Adams
 

Vallejo is a delight to work with.  6 drops of 2 colors and 1 drop of Vallejo Air Brush thinner and I was able to brush paint an the ends and sides of an HO caboose I am working on. The paint leveled completely without any visible brush strokes. 
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Ken Adams
In splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek


Re: Video: Steam Was Great On The Nickel Plate

Bill J.
 

Thanks for posting that incredible footage.  Incredibly USEFUL footage.

I first noticed the variability in weathering on reefers, from shiny-new to black soot.

Those Berks were one of the best examples of Lima's Superpower concept.  Trains magazine, years ago, did a cost comparison between them and a diesel.  They were cost competitive!  HOWEVER!  Many-most RRs didn't use Superpower correctly.  Superpower-equipped locos were meant to do long runs at higher speed, exactly what NKP did.  The C&O's 2-6-6-6 were used in helper and drag ops, exactly the wrong thing to do.  Superpower appliances weren't at their best at low speed.  Irony.

The film had sync sound, so it showed how many times an engineer wouldn't do the full - - o - at grade crossings.  Some simply blew warnings, other stopped before the crossing, one didn't do anything.

Does everyone know how - - o - became the grade crossing warning?!

Bill Jolitz


National Type B/B1 Trucks was Re: SLRX 4216

 

Thank you, Brian,

It's wonderful to have that aha moment. Now I have better understanding of these trucks. Spent the night last night going over prototype photos of cars with National trucks.
I will be making changes to a fair # of cars using the P2K Type B's with a little carving and the addition of some TMW brake shoes. Frees up Athearn B1's to use somewhere else.
And now I will have a better eye when looking at photos.

Looking back in the archives, there are posts on the B/B1 trucks but I missed the full import of what was posted back then.

Dan Smith


On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 05:23 PM, brianleppert@... wrote:
Attached is a National Malleable and Steel Castings Co. ad from the Aug. 30, 1941 Railway Age, showing both their B and B-1 trucks.  A noticeable difference between the two are the bolster ends.  Also the springs on the earlier  B truck were larger diameter than usual and as the capacity increased so did their diameters, but the wheelbase stayed the same.

P2K/Walthers offers the B truck, while Athearn and Kadee sell the B-1 truck.

This afternoon I tried downloading this scan into both Files and Photos, but neither would accept new additions.  If interest in seeing it, just contact me off-list at brianleppert at att dot net.


Re: SHPX 161, a two compartment tank car

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

HI Tim,
 
Thanks for the additional information on this
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

From: Tim O'Connor
Sent: 1 June, 2020 09:20
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SHPX 161, a two compartment tank car
 

The 1970 tariff book shows sister car #160 3936 gallons + 5931 gallons (total 9867) with each dome @ 124 gallons.


Hi List Members,
 
Nice image of SHPX 161, a two compartment tank car.
 
I suspect this car may have been built originally as a three compartment car, based simply on the location of the two domes. Can anyone confirm (or deny) this to be the case?
 
 
The car looks o have a 1930 build date on it, on the right hand side of the tank
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schund


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car

leakinmywaders
 

Thanks.  You helped at the time with a photo and some thoughts as i recall, TIm.  It has a few little boogers, but turned out nice enough I've got another one in the lineup to do.

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT


Re: SLRX 4216

Tim O'Connor
 

Todd

Actually those are National Type B trucks - the original design. The B-1 is slightly different.


On 5/31/2020 7:42 PM, Todd Sullivan via groups.io wrote:
The trucks are National B-1.

Todd Sullivan

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: National Car Co. NX 6898

Tim O'Connor
 


I have that as a duplicate slide from the "Gerstley collection" but your image is much sharper!

On 5/31/2020 6:47 PM, Ray Hutchison wrote:
wonderful photo/find, Richard.

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:39 PM Richard Wilkens <railsnw123@...> wrote:
Was busy doing some scanning and came across this slide of National Car Company NX 6898 taken in October 1956. I find the leasing info interesting as Fruit Growers Express owner lessor, National Car Co. Lessee Sub-Lessor, and Armour and Co. Sub-Lessee.

Richard Wilkens

Attachments:

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car

Tim O'Connor
 


Chris, nice modeling!


On 5/31/2020 6:45 PM, leakinmywaders via groups.io wrote:
 UTLX 103W Red Caboose tank car with Plano walkways. Steve Hile decals, outer edges of main deck walkways reinforced
 with 0.010" styrene strip. I should have reinforced the dome access walkways that way too (and got them a little more level).



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: K4 Decals

James Brewer
 

Didn't realize K4 had its own web page...here it is  https://k4decals.com/

Jim Brewer

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 9:27 AM G.J. Irwin <groups@...> wrote:
True, K4 has both their own website and an eBay store.  I purchased two sets directly through their website since I'd rather support them that way-- fewer "deductions" if you know what I mean.   There is a discount on multiple decal purchases and free shipping when using their site.

I have used some of their alphabet decals recently, and I'm pleased with the result though it's not challenging-- white decals on a black wall.  It's also not on a freight car so I'm stretching a bit...

Cheers,
George Irwin


Re: Vallejo Paints for Steam Era Freight Cars

G.J. Irwin
 

Bruce Griffin courteously provided the link to the MRH color matching guide:

The link to the MRH Guide is https://www.testors.com/~/media/DigitalEncyclopedia/Documents/Testors/ebook/MRH-Acrylic-painting-guide-post-Floquil-Portrait.ashx

Considering that Testors/Rustoleum recently announced more discontinuances of their model-focused paints (no comment!) I wonder how long this document will remain on their domain.  A download of this guide should be easy.  I'd recommend it.

Cheers,
George Irwin


Re: Athearn Type-B (was SLRX 4216)

Tim O'Connor
 


list prices for Athearn parts are nuts now - but there are still dealers out there who
will give you deep discounts like 30% off


On 5/31/2020 8:40 PM, Jon Miller wrote:
On 5/31/2020 5:23 PM, brianleppert@... wrote:
Athearn and Kadee sell the B-1 truck.

    I looked up the Athearn B-1.  They want $23 for 2 pair, this seems really high!

-- 
Jon Miller


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: K4 Decals

G.J. Irwin
 

True, K4 has both their own website and an eBay store.  I purchased two sets directly through their website since I'd rather support them that way-- fewer "deductions" if you know what I mean.   There is a discount on multiple decal purchases and free shipping when using their site.

I have used some of their alphabet decals recently, and I'm pleased with the result though it's not challenging-- white decals on a black wall.  It's also not on a freight car so I'm stretching a bit...

Cheers,
George Irwin


Re: SHPX 161, a two compartment tank car

Tim O'Connor
 


The 1970 tariff book shows sister car #160 3936 gallons + 5931 gallons (total 9867) with each dome @ 124 gallons.


Hi List Members,
 
Nice image of SHPX 161, a two compartment tank car.
 
I suspect this car may have been built originally as a three compartment car, based simply on the location of the two domes. Can anyone confirm (or deny) this to be the case?
 
 
The car looks o have a 1930 build date on it, on the right hand side of the tank
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schund


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Milwaukee Road Boxcars 35000 and 35044

Lester Breuer
 

After a resin stock car build, I wanted an easier build. A couple of InterMountain Milwaukee Road boxcars were the solution. If you are interested in the build of MILW boxcars 35044 and 35000 including changes and addition of parts not in the kit. Photos and writeup of the build process including paint and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company. If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/


Lester Breuer


Re: Athern B-1 Truck

Nelson Moyer
 

I agree with you, Bill, I was only providing a lower cost alternative. I tried Kadee, but didn’t like them, and Kadee wheel sets leave much to be desired. I never use them.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 1:02 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Athern B-1 Truck

 

I perfer the Athern truck over the Proto 2000  B-1 truck which came out first.  The Athern truck was donr for their Santa Fe 50' refers.  It features the "In line" brake shoes.  I was not aware of the Kadee.

 

Bill Pardie

 

 

 

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Athern B-1 Truck

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

I perfer the Athern truck over the Proto 2000  B-1 truck which came out first.  The Athern truck was donr for their Santa Fe 50' refers.  It features the "In line" brake shoes.  I was not aware of the Kadee.

Bill Pardie



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Re: Tangent GATC 8,000 Gallon 1917-Design Radial Course Tank Car

leakinmywaders
 

Apologies, that was me.  Though I prefer to think of myself as medium well.  ;-)

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT


Re: SLRX 4216

Scott
 

What kind of roof is that?  It looks kind of like it has two raised parts for each section.  Diagonal panel perhaps?

Scott McDonald 


Re: GATX 26452

mopacfirst
 

This one's really interesting.  The side ladder appears to have collapsed.  But what's even more interesting is the, for lack of a better word, 'interim' dome platform, not a full level platform with railings but more than just side platforms.

As for the shipper, the chemistry is a little out of my reach -- is corn syrup a product or an an ingredient?

Ron Merrick


Re: SLRX 4216

Nelson Moyer
 

Walthers and Kadee also make them. I’ve used Walthers.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jon Miller
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 7:41 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SLRX 4216

 

On 5/31/2020 5:23 PM, brianleppert@... wrote:

Athearn and Kadee sell the B-1 truck.

    I looked up the Athearn B-1.  They want $23 for 2 pair, this seems really high!

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
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