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Re: Paint Booth

 

BTW, I have scanned the January 1988 MR pages showing their paint booth. If you read the article, you’ll see why I used 6” ducting; the 5” fittings they fabricated constricted air flow.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

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Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 6:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

Photos of my use of A/C ducting. The register duct mounted to the garage door has two dryer flapper duct to keep insects out.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "BRIAN PAUL EHNI via groups.io" <bpehni@...>
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Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 3:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

I used pre-made 6” air conditioning duct parts. 

Thanks!

Brian Ehni 

(Sent from my iPhone)




On Jun 3, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Curt Fortenberry <curtfortenberry@...> wrote:



 

The MR plan does have a slight technical issue.  The arrangement of the ducts is actually counter to the way you'd do it for airflow.  I ended going to a sheet metal shop and had a correct transition piece made for the fan mount to the ductwork.

 

Curt Fortenberry


Re: SP drop_bottom_gon and an SP flat

 

Indeed! A 6 masted ship!

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of vapeurchapelon <j.markwart@...>
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Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 11:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SP drop_bottom_gon and an SP flat

 

Hello Claus,

 

many thanks for the link - but I have to say that this time the ship is much more interesting than the freight cars...!

 

Regards

 

Johannes

Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953

 

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 03. Juni 2020 um 17:58 Uhr
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Betreff: [RealSTMFC] SP drop_bottom_gon and an SP flat

Hi List Members,

 

Zoom in to see an SP drop_bottom_gon and an SP flat with lumber loads. Road numbers can be made out on these both

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 


Photo: SP Boxcar 16761

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: SP Boxcar 16761

An undated photo from the University of Oregon Libraries:

https://oregondigital.org/catalog/oregondigital:df71fs36j

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: SP Boxcar 66094

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: SP Boxcar 66094

An undated photo from the University of Oregon Libraries:

https://oregondigital.org/catalog/oregondigital:df71zw41m

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Paint Booth

 

Photos of my use of A/C ducting. The register duct mounted to the garage door has two dryer flapper duct to keep insects out.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "BRIAN PAUL EHNI via groups.io" <bpehni@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 3:40 PM
To: <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

I used pre-made 6” air conditioning duct parts. 

Thanks!

Brian Ehni 

(Sent from my iPhone)



On Jun 3, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Curt Fortenberry <curtfortenberry@...> wrote:



 

The MR plan does have a slight technical issue.  The arrangement of the ducts is actually counter to the way you'd do it for airflow.  I ended going to a sheet metal shop and had a correct transition piece made for the fan mount to the ductwork.

 

Curt Fortenberry


Re: Paint Booth

Bruce Griffin
 


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Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 


Re: reefer spotted there has PFE reporting marks

Tony Thompson
 

Doug Harding wrote:

Claus, PFE had a very small fleet of meat reefers, about 300. Not at home so can’t check the book as to numbers or era.

   Yes, but two points: first, this photo is years before those cars, and the car, PFE 9092, was just a plain reefer.
    I was once told that a significant traffic category for meat packers was lard, and that might move in regular reefers (serving as insulated box cars).

Tony Thompson




Re: reefer spotted there has PFE reporting marks

Bob Chaparro
 

In the photo notice S.P. Boxcar 61290 is to the left and appears to have an end door.

PFE 9092 is one of 3,021 Class R-30-5 produce reefers built 1909-1911 by Pullman. Seen in the photo are the "Bohn Standard Ventilator" hatch covers.

There is good coverage with photos of this and related cars in the PFE book.

From a modeling standpoint, notice the boot scuff marks along the ladder rungs.

I attribute the lack of visible lettering to the choice of film used for this photo. Perhaps someone can shed more light on this.

The fact that this produce car is at a meat packer's branch house probably is just a coincidence, although meat packers were known to use PFE cars when there was a shortage of their own cars.. Cudahy had its own reefers and generally produce reefers were not compatible with meat service. 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: help locating online sratchbuilding supplies

Ray Hutchison
 

Hello Tom,  Yes, thank you.  I have picked up three orders from Paul since we start homestay, and this is my preferred place to get things (even if I have to pay a little more, which usually is *not* the case!  Problem I have had is that the website order doesn't get to some of the things that I am looking for (dimensional HO scale lumber for cars, for example).  Was wondering the other day if Titletown will happen nest year or not?  Ray Hutchison


On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 12:38 PM Tom Makofski <tmak400@...> wrote:
Ray, you do know you have Engine House Service located in Green Bay.  They should be able to order you anything they don't have in stock.



On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 2:18 PM Ray Hutchison <rayhutchison2@...> wrote:
This has been hit or miss on ebay, and difficult to get things from local hobby shop.  I am looking for a good source for both wood and styrene car roofs, sides, ends, and bottom frames.  Suggestions much appreciated!

Ray Hutchison, Green Bay WI


Re: Tichy USRA boxcar underframes

Ted Culotta
 

Hi Bruce,

Please educate me because I don't see the uproar. Yes, the crossmember should all face one end on one side and the other end on the other side, but the guts are there - two crossbearers and five sets of crossties. One nit (that I noticed beforehand, thankfully) is that the train pipe should pass through the crossties.

Cheers,
Ted Culotta


Re: CNW: Not the most common SS box car

Bill Welch
 

The two Sunshine kits covering these cars are being re-issued by Westerfield Date TBD.

Bill Welch


Re: reefer spotted there has PFE reporting marks

Douglas Harding
 

Claus, PFE had a very small fleet of meat reefers, about 300. Not at home so can’t check the book as to numbers or era.

 

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:27 PM
To: STMFC
Subject: [RealSTMFC] reefer spotted there has PFE reporting marks

 

Hi List Members,

 

I like this image of a Cudahy Packing building. I am surprised to see the reefer spotted there has PFE reporting marks!

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 


CNW: Not the most common SS box car

Andy Carlson
 

Hello-

Something to share which is closer to the later years of Steam Era Freight Cars. This slide was on Ebay last week. I did not bid on it as I thought a friend of mine was going to bid for it. He did not, so I missed out.

I think that there is a Sunshine resin kit for this basic Howe truss car (without the plug door). This SS retro fitted with a plug door and carrying the North Western's great freight car paint scheme solidifies the idea that there is a lot to like here.

Inline image
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Are these cars being loaded with sawdust?

Bill Decker
 

Mel,

The original mill at Toledo--at least that which survives--was built by the US Army Spruce Division during WWI.  After the war, those assets were sold off.  In the case of the Toledo mill, it was sold to C.D. Johnson.  C.D. Johnson sold the mill to Georgia-Pacific in the early 1950s.  This was a dynamic time in the forest products industry as the Kraft pulp process was applied to wood chips for paper pulp.  Several large pulp and paper mills were built throughout the Pacific Northwest with many coming on-line toward the end of RR steam operations in the mid 1950s.  

G-P had another mill--not certain where--that they shipped wood chips to in the mid 1950s, per my earlier note concerning an SP GS gondola with chip rack (G-50-20-A) carrying the first such load out in 1957.  In 1958, G-P added a pulp and paper mill at Toledo.  Apparently, wood chips might have gone both ways for a brief time, but by the end of this list's time-frame, its of wood chips began flowing from other sawmill operations out to Toledo.  Yet today, G-P has both a saw mill and a pulp and paper mill at Toledo.  

Co-located saw and pulp mills are a common occurrence for large operations here in Oregon and Washington.  Weyerhaeuser in Springfield, Oregon, is another such mill with a full range of forest products and a co-located pulp mill.  Of course, these were and are rail-served, although (future date for this list) rail transport of wood chips has fallen by the wayside, notwithstanding earnest efforts on the part of the current shoreline operator.  Wood chips often were a loss-leader for the railroads--moved at a loss in the expectation that the finished product would go by rail--hopefully on a long haul.  

Bill Decker
McMinnville, Oregon--home of the Spruce Goose, stuffed and mounted in the Evergreen Air and Space Museum


Re: Paint Booth

 

I used pre-made 6” air conditioning duct parts. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 3, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Curt Fortenberry <curtfortenberry@...> wrote:



The MR plan does have a slight technical issue.  The arrangement of the ducts is actually counter to the way you'd do it for airflow.  I ended going to a sheet metal shop and had a correct transition piece made for the fan mount to the ductwork.

Curt Fortenberry


Re: Paint Booth

gastro42000 <martincooper@...>
 


On June 3, 2020 at 3:53 PM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:

SPARKLESS....effing autocorrect!
 
Hi: many years ago NCE made a very nice large paint booth to be vented outside. Maybe you could find a used one. They also made a sand blaster booth, but I missed that. Marty Cooper 

From: Bruce F. Smith <smithbf@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 2:52 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth
 
We've been over this before, but "sparkles" fans are NOT needed for a paint booth. The concentration of flammable agent is never high enough. Just get the highest capacity bathroom or kitchen vent fans you can find.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Todd Sullivan via groups.io <sullivant41@...>
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To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth
 
I built my own probably 30 years ago using 1/8" hardboard for the bottom, sides and back, with triangular cross section molding where the panels joined.  I added a vertical slot at the back for a standard size furnace filter, and made the top from Lexan clear sheet to allow light in.  The inside is painted white, which I protect with clear food wrap.  I used two surplus computer cooling fans with inductive motors (no sparking) at the back to pull the air out and through the filter.  Probably a squirrel cage fan would be more effective.  The waste air was ducted out a window using dryer vent components.  The face opening is probably 28"w by 16" high.

Todd Sullivan

 


boxcars at ‘OWRN Terminal #4 Grain Elevator’

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Three UP double sheathed boxcars at ‘OWRN Terminal #4 Grain Elevator’.
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


reefer spotted there has PFE reporting marks

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
I like this image of a Cudahy Packing building. I am surprised to see the reefer spotted there has PFE reporting marks!
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: Paint Booth

Curt Fortenberry
 


The MR plan does have a slight technical issue.  The arrangement of the ducts is actually counter to the way you'd do it for airflow.  I ended going to a sheet metal shop and had a correct transition piece made for the fan mount to the ductwork.

Curt Fortenberry


Re: Paint Booth

Todd Sullivan
 

Bruce  -  Got it!

I did not know that about the fans, and that will simplify my search for a replacement.  Thanks!

Todd Sullivan

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