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Re: Paint Booth

Nelson Moyer
 

One thing that hasn’t been mentioned is make-up air, i.e. air supply to replace the air you’re blowing out through the booth. If you’re drawing a negative pressure in the room, you’re reducing the efficiency of the fan’s rating, and you’re not blowing as much air as you might think, especially if you have a tight house. Cracking a window will provide make-up air. That comes from experience during a career in microbiology laboratories using biological safety cabinets from Class 1 to Class 3. HVAC systems in negative pressure labs are designed and balanced to function with and without BSCs operating, but your house doesn’t have those engineering controls.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt Goodman via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 1:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

Nelson raises a point worth considering - how much air is moved.

 

I have a off the shelf Paasche booth that vents inside the basement. That was fine for short paint sessions, or slightly longer sessions wearing a respirator - neither of which is a good long term solution.

 

About two years ago, I started researching how much air (in cfm) I’d have to move given the distance and number of turns the exhaust would have to navigate.  I found the following site very useful for those calculations:

 

 

I also described my use case and calculations from the above site in a post on the MRH forum, and got some decent help (from one guy in particular). In the research process, I also found a HVAC guy who has air booth plans that is well done (Jim Hayes, you may especially find it useful). All that is in the post here:

 

 

This whole CFM topic turned out to be more of a brain-squeezer than I expected!

 

Matt Goodman

Columbus, Ohio US


Re: Photo: N&W Boxcars At Milling Company

Mont Switzer
 

Schuyler,

 

You are thinking of Quaker Square in Akron, OH.    It was originally turned into a hotel with railroad theme added.  Lots of steam era railroadiana, milling machinery, shipping records and other goodies.  Displays inside and outside.  An interesting place to stay.

 

I believe records on display at the hotel showed boxcars inbound at late as 1973.  It was B&O served.  Snack bar was in PRR passenger cars.

 

However, last I knew it fell upon bad times and was taken over by Akron University.  Last I knew they were using it for student housing..

 

Mont Switzer


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] on behalf of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io [schuyler.larrabee@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 4:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: N&W Boxcars At Milling Company

There’s a residential reuse of silos – Quaker Oats, somewhere in Ohio.  Slightly funky but I guess it works.

 

But I’m not talking about a “silo,” but rather the large orthogonal part of the building in your first image below.

 

Schuyler

Registered Architect 4600

Massachusetts

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt Goodman via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 3:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: N&W Boxcars At Milling Company

 

Definitely cast in place - slip forming is the only process that I know of to cast storage bins of that height. Here’s a view that shows the storage bins in context.

 

 

There’s a separate image in the collection (search “Gwinn Milling”) of a man unloading a steam-era boxcar that really impresses (on me) the laboriousness of that job.

 

 

I’m not aware of any residential reuse of concrete silos - I’ll have to ask the family architect (dad).  The neighborhood’s main concern is kids exploring the site and taking a tumble (or otherwise being injured). 

 

Matt

 

On Jun 4, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:

 

“slip form?”  I don’t think so.  Cast-in-place, certainly, but not slip formed.

 

Certainly rugged enough, is the n’hood not conducive to a residential reuse?

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt Goodman via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 10:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: N&W Boxcars At Milling Company

 

That facility still stands, though currently unused (AFAIK). Many in the neighborhood see it as a safety issue and eyesore, but I’m not sure how you remove a slip form elevator. 

 

The photo is wonderful, showing cars in superb condition, with grain doors at the ready (or recently removed). 

 

Good to see you are making good use of our library’s wonderful image collection, Bob.

Matt Goodman

Columbus, Ohio

 

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On Jun 3, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:



Photo: N&W Boxcars At Milling Company

An undated photo from the Columbus Metropolitan Library:

https://digital-collections.columbuslibrary.org/digital/collection/p16802coll7/id/18975/rec/6315T

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

 


Re: Paint Booth

Dave Boss
 

Hi Guys
               I took an article drawing from, I think it was MR back somewhere around 1989/90 of a paint booth design to a local Heating & Air company and had them make one from the drawing. It was made well with a heavy gauge metal. It turned out really well.It wasn't expensive. If interested I will look up the year & date of the Mag. for you.

Good Day
Dave


On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 4:19 PM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

I thought about building a spray booth for years. I considered cardboard boxes, luan ply, and the plans featured in MR several editors ago. I never did build one. I splurged for the metal Paasche booth in early 2015 and it has seen regular use since.

 

Sure it was pricey, but it helped me move several undecorated freight cars to the next step. I think I’ve painted close to 50 freight cars in the last five years. That doesn’t seem like much but it’s better than the two I painted with rattle cans in the previous 20 years.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of akerboomk
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 1:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

Has anyone tried to make one out of a corrugated box?

Maybe a “triple wall” one from an appliance?

 

A bit of *real* duct tape, maybe some 1x1 corner reinforcement?

You might need something a bit more solid to mount the fan on, but…

 

Cheap & easy to modify if you don’t get it “just right” on the first try!

(I got a metal one from North Coast, quite a while ago)

 

Ken

 


--
Ken Akerboom


Re: Photo: O&C Boxcar 88280

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Yes, Eric, it’s distorted but mostly horizontally.  It looks very wide.  But look at the car in relation to the man on the platform.  It’s clearly not as tall a car as the one originally referenced for this picture.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 4:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: O&C Boxcar 88280

 

The CH&D car would become one of the B&O M-23 class by WW1. Height to running board was 13-foot, 3-inches. I suspect the camera lens has affected the car appearance.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 11:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: O&C Boxcar 88280

 

Also, a Cincinnati, Hamilton & Detroit box car at the end of the spur, a LONG ways from home.  Very short (i.e., not tall) car.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 12:36 PM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: O&C Boxcar 88280

 

Photo: O&C Boxcar 88280

An undated photo from the University of Oregon Libraries:

https://oregondigital.org/catalog/oregondigital:df738t96m

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: N&W Boxcars At Milling Company

Schuyler Larrabee
 

There’s a residential reuse of silos – Quaker Oats, somewhere in Ohio.  Slightly funky but I guess it works.

 

But I’m not talking about a “silo,” but rather the large orthogonal part of the building in your first image below.

 

Schuyler

Registered Architect 4600

Massachusetts

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt Goodman via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 3:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: N&W Boxcars At Milling Company

 

Definitely cast in place - slip forming is the only process that I know of to cast storage bins of that height. Here’s a view that shows the storage bins in context.

 

 

There’s a separate image in the collection (search “Gwinn Milling”) of a man unloading a steam-era boxcar that really impresses (on me) the laboriousness of that job.

 

 

I’m not aware of any residential reuse of concrete silos - I’ll have to ask the family architect (dad).  The neighborhood’s main concern is kids exploring the site and taking a tumble (or otherwise being injured). 

 

Matt

 

On Jun 4, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:

 

“slip form?”  I don’t think so.  Cast-in-place, certainly, but not slip formed.

 

Certainly rugged enough, is the n’hood not conducive to a residential reuse?

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt Goodman via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 10:52 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: N&W Boxcars At Milling Company

 

That facility still stands, though currently unused (AFAIK). Many in the neighborhood see it as a safety issue and eyesore, but I’m not sure how you remove a slip form elevator. 

 

The photo is wonderful, showing cars in superb condition, with grain doors at the ready (or recently removed). 

 

Good to see you are making good use of our library’s wonderful image collection, Bob.

Matt Goodman

Columbus, Ohio

 

Sent from my mobile


On Jun 3, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:



Photo: N&W Boxcars At Milling Company

An undated photo from the Columbus Metropolitan Library:

https://digital-collections.columbuslibrary.org/digital/collection/p16802coll7/id/18975/rec/6315T

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

 


Re: Photo: O&C Boxcar 88280

Eric Hansmann
 

The CH&D car would become one of the B&O M-23 class by WW1. Height to running board was 13-foot, 3-inches. I suspect the camera lens has affected the car appearance.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 11:46 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: O&C Boxcar 88280

 

Also, a Cincinnati, Hamilton & Detroit box car at the end of the spur, a LONG ways from home.  Very short (i.e., not tall) car.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 12:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: O&C Boxcar 88280

 

Photo: O&C Boxcar 88280

An undated photo from the University of Oregon Libraries:

https://oregondigital.org/catalog/oregondigital:df738t96m

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: a mystery use of at least one (possibly more) PFE reefer

Eric Hansmann
 

A weigh date is not clear on any of these cars, so we don’t know the approximate date the scene was captured on film.

 

The 1911 amendment to the Safety Appliance Act pushed the Master Car Builders Association to formulate standards for placement of the new hardware. This led to sill steps on both ends of a car side. Ladders or ladder grabs on the right end of a car side and the left end of the car end, with rungs at the same level. A single handhold at the left end of the car side was added with the sill step. The end sill grabs became standard appliances on all cars, too.

 

These changes did not happen overnight to the US freight car fleet. There were occasional freight cars lacking all of these new safety appliances during WW1. IIRC, it was 1923 when all the older cars were either retired or upgraded to meet the new requirements.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wilkens
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 12:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] a mystery use of at least one (possibly more) PFE reefer

 

What's interesting is that the PFE car and the SP&S cars have no side stirrup step on the left corner of the cars or hand grabs. I thought by this time that was a requirement.

Rich Wilkens


Re: Paint Booth

Eric Hansmann
 

I thought about building a spray booth for years. I considered cardboard boxes, luan ply, and the plans featured in MR several editors ago. I never did build one. I splurged for the metal Paasche booth in early 2015 and it has seen regular use since.

 

Sure it was pricey, but it helped me move several undecorated freight cars to the next step. I think I’ve painted close to 50 freight cars in the last five years. That doesn’t seem like much but it’s better than the two I painted with rattle cans in the previous 20 years.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of akerboomk
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 1:30 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

Has anyone tried to make one out of a corrugated box?

Maybe a “triple wall” one from an appliance?

 

A bit of *real* duct tape, maybe some 1x1 corner reinforcement?

You might need something a bit more solid to mount the fan on, but…

 

Cheap & easy to modify if you don’t get it “just right” on the first try!

(I got a metal one from North Coast, quite a while ago)

 

Ken

 


--
Ken Akerboom


Re: Paint Booth

 

This is the fan I’m using (as recommended by the MR article). https://www.grainger.com/product/DAYTON-OEM-Blower-4C445. Max 495cfm. The MR article cites 525cfm. They got 150fpm airflow thru their 5” duct; I used 6” to more closely match the area of the fan outlet.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...>
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Date: Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 1:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

I’m using flexible duct from the paint booth to a bathroom fan duct (bathroom fan supplements the squirrel cage fan on the paint booth). The flexible run is about 6 ft. and the sheet metal duct is about 6 ft. to the outside wall. I see freight car red powder residue on the outside vent screen. Maybe you not moving enough CFU?

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of BRIAN PAUL EHNI
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 12:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

After years of using mine, I see little evidence of paint on my outside exhaust. There may be some in the flexible duct, though.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io" <schuyler.larrabee@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 12:40 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

It appears to, yes.  The plastic vent in the window pane shows no box car red or other colors.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 1:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

A quick question…does the furnace filter retain paint particulates well enough so the exhaust, while still having an odor, will not color anything it blows on?

Charlie Vlk


Re: Photo: N&W Boxcars At Milling Company

Matt Goodman
 

Definitely cast in place - slip forming is the only process that I know of to cast storage bins of that height. Here’s a view that shows the storage bins in context.


There’s a separate image in the collection (search “Gwinn Milling”) of a man unloading a steam-era boxcar that really impresses (on me) the laboriousness of that job.


I’m not aware of any residential reuse of concrete silos - I’ll have to ask the family architect (dad).  The neighborhood’s main concern is kids exploring the site and taking a tumble (or otherwise being injured). 

Matt

On Jun 4, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:

“slip form?”  I don’t think so.  Cast-in-place, certainly, but not slip formed.
 
Certainly rugged enough, is the n’hood not conducive to a residential reuse?
 
Schuyler
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt Goodman via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 10:52 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: N&W Boxcars At Milling Company
 
That facility still stands, though currently unused (AFAIK). Many in the neighborhood see it as a safety issue and eyesore, but I’m not sure how you remove a slip form elevator. 
 
The photo is wonderful, showing cars in superb condition, with grain doors at the ready (or recently removed). 
 

Good to see you are making good use of our library’s wonderful image collection, Bob.

Matt Goodman
Columbus, Ohio
 
Sent from my mobile


On Jun 3, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:



Photo: N&W Boxcars At Milling Company

An undated photo from the Columbus Metropolitan Library:

https://digital-collections.columbuslibrary.org/digital/collection/p16802coll7/id/18975/rec/6315T

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



Re: Photo: UP Furniture Boxcar 85352

Tony Thompson
 

ken akerboom wrote:

I also like the “end truss rod” (I don’t think it’s a “handrail”), presumably to try to reinforce the end…

    You are right, Ken, it was a short-lived Harriman Lines design feature. A few years later, cars no longer were built that way.

Tony Thompson




Re: Paint Booth

Matt Goodman
 

Nelson raises a point worth considering - how much air is moved.

I have a off the shelf Paasche booth that vents inside the basement. That was fine for short paint sessions, or slightly longer sessions wearing a respirator - neither of which is a good long term solution.

About two years ago, I started researching how much air (in cfm) I’d have to move given the distance and number of turns the exhaust would have to navigate.  I found the following site very useful for those calculations:


I also described my use case and calculations from the above site in a post on the MRH forum, and got some decent help (from one guy in particular). In the research process, I also found a HVAC guy who has air booth plans that is well done (Jim Hayes, you may especially find it useful). All that is in the post here:


This whole CFM topic turned out to be more of a brain-squeezer than I expected!

Matt Goodman
Columbus, Ohio US

On Jun 4, 2020, at 2:08 PM, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

I’m using flexible duct from the paint booth to a bathroom fan duct (bathroom fan supplements the squirrel cage fan on the paint booth). The flexible run is about 6 ft. and the sheet metal duct is about 6 ft. to the outside wall. I see freight car red powder residue on the outside vent screen. Maybe you not moving enough CFU?
 
Nelson Moyer
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of BRIAN PAUL EHNI
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 12:57 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth
 
After years of using mine, I see little evidence of paint on my outside exhaust. There may be some in the flexible duct, though.
 
 
Thanks!
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Brian Ehni
 
 
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io" <schuyler.larrabee@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 12:40 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth
 
It appears to, yes.  The plastic vent in the window pane shows no box car red or other colors.
 
Schuyler
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 1:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth
 
A quick question…does the furnace filter retain paint particulates well enough so the exhaust, while still having an odor, will not color anything it blows on?
Charlie Vlk



Re: Paint Booth

Bruce Smith
 

Charlie, 

I must also paint more, as my filter is FULL of paint!  As for exhausted, or at least very tired paint? It depends on the length of the exhaust. My 6' exhaust has shown no tendency to vent paint that can adhere (most likely, any paint micro-droplets have dried by then)

Regards,
Bruce


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Charlie Vlk <cvlk@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 12:35 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth
 

A quick question…does the furnace filter retain paint particulates well enough so the exhaust, while still having an odor, will not color anything it blows on?

Charlie Vlk


Re: Photo: UP Furniture Boxcar 85352

akerboomk
 

I also like the “end truss rod” (I don’t think it’s a “handrail”), presumably to try to reinforce the end…


--
Ken Akerboom


Re: Paint Booth

akerboomk
 

Has anyone tried to make one out of a corrugated box?

Maybe a “triple wall” one from an appliance?

 

A bit of *real* duct tape, maybe some 1x1 corner reinforcement?

You might need something a bit more solid to mount the fan on, but…

 

Cheap & easy to modify if you don’t get it “just right” on the first try!

(I got a metal one from North Coast, quite a while ago)

 

Ken

 


--
Ken Akerboom


Re: a mystery use of at least one (possibly more) PFE reefer / Crown Flour Mill

Jim Betz
 

Todd,
  Thanks for both of those.  The second emphatically shows how busy that area
was (long string of box cars, for example) and also shows how effectively the
industries used the river on one side and the rail on the other side.
  That flood was a very big deal for the Portland area - there were some big
changes afterward to the river there -and- upstream and, as far as I know,
there hasn't been another major flood in that area since.
                                                                                              - Jim


Re: Paint Booth

Nelson Moyer
 

I’m using flexible duct from the paint booth to a bathroom fan duct (bathroom fan supplements the squirrel cage fan on the paint booth). The flexible run is about 6 ft. and the sheet metal duct is about 6 ft. to the outside wall. I see freight car red powder residue on the outside vent screen. Maybe you not moving enough CFU?

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of BRIAN PAUL EHNI
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 12:57 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

After years of using mine, I see little evidence of paint on my outside exhaust. There may be some in the flexible duct, though.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io" <schuyler.larrabee@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 12:40 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

It appears to, yes.  The plastic vent in the window pane shows no box car red or other colors.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 1:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

A quick question…does the furnace filter retain paint particulates well enough so the exhaust, while still having an odor, will not color anything it blows on?

Charlie Vlk


Re: Paint Booth

 

After years of using mine, I see little evidence of paint on my outside exhaust. There may be some in the flexible duct, though.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io" <schuyler.larrabee@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 12:40 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

It appears to, yes.  The plastic vent in the window pane shows no box car red or other colors.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 1:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

A quick question…does the furnace filter retain paint particulates well enough so the exhaust, while still having an odor, will not color anything it blows on?

Charlie Vlk


Re: Paint Booth

Schuyler Larrabee
 

It appears to, yes.  The plastic vent in the window pane shows no box car red or other colors.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 1:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

A quick question…does the furnace filter retain paint particulates well enough so the exhaust, while still having an odor, will not color anything it blows on?

Charlie Vlk


Re: [bbfcl] CNW: A late use for a early SS box car

Lloyd Keyser
 

There were a small number of the SS cars that were insulated and had plug doors applied. This was done to keep wet Pulp from freezing  between WI paper mills. They were originally painted in the BR and standard white lettering. Later they got the Yellow and Green. These were on line cars.
Lloyd Keyser

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