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Re: C&O Bunk Cars and Jordan Spreader

Tim O'Connor
 


Here are some 'random' C&O MofW shots my Dad took. Scanned many years ago from 3x5 prints...


On 6/2/2020 6:44 PM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:
Friends,

Today, I am finishing up presenting photos of C&O MW house cars. This isn't all that I have, but what's left are essentially duplicates of what you've already seen. I have a few C&O open cars, Burro cranes, and tenders coming up, but I'm going to keep them spaced them out a bit. I also have a very few really cool Western Maryland cars that turned up here in Charlottesville, plus some from West Virginia.

I also have a few interesting Southern MW cars coming your way. Since most of what I saw were PS-1s, I will limit what I show to open cars and a couple of really old boxcars.

In today's lot, bunk car 911106 is another of the ex-Hocking Valley auto cars. I think this one has been more recently resided and has a much different window arrangement than the previous tool cars. Also note that it appears the siding has been replaced along the bottom, possibly from rust between the siding and the side frame. I'm not certain where I found this particular car, possibly at Scottsville on the James River line.

940256 is unlike any other C&O MW car I encountered. It appears to be converted from a 50' auto car. Note the car-end man door, and the Allied Full Cushion trucks, which are not original if I'm right about the car's origin. This car was at Clifton Forge.

Jordan spreader 914057 was found in Charlottesville. I was fortunate to be able to get two views of this machine.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Photo: NP Reefer Load Of Canned Salmon

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: NP Reefer Load Of Canned Salmon

A 1915 photo from the Washington State Historical Society:

http://www.washingtonhistory.org/imu/api/file/1577

Description:

"Ten men in overcoats and hats stand by a Northern Pacific Railway railroad car in Seattle, WA, with the sign on its side: This train of 27 cars loaded with canned salmon from P.E. Harris and Co., Seattle, WA."

Doug Harding commented on another group, "An early reefer built with a deep steel underframe, at a time when many did not trust the steel underframe to hold the load, so designs called for the tried and proven truss rods as additional (and unnecessary) fail safe measure."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: MILW Boxcar 716528 Car Jacked!!

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: MILW Boxcar 716528 Car Jacked!!

A 1948 photo from the Consortium of Academic and Research Libraries in Illinois:

http://collections.carli.illinois.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/nby_rrlife/id/476/rec/15

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit to show the detail of the car.

In 1948 the term had a different meaning.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Who offered this O scale PFE #71407 R-40-2 reefer?

Edward
 

I could not get your E-bay link to work and by now its likely gone.
However, an O scale wood body PEF refrigerator with that  number is likely from this  Walthers 5415 kit.

Ed Bommer


Who offered this O scale PFE #71407 R-40-2 reefer?

wahsatch
 

As I watched the bidding go hi, was wondering who offered this car. Some say it's a kit, but my 2 look almost identical.

<https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kit-Built-Reefer-Refrigerator-Car-Pacific-Fruit-Express-SP-PFE-2-Rail-O-Gauge/353082327845>

Thanks for any help!

-=- Bob Colquitt


Re: Train Station Products station

gastro42000 <martincooper@...>
 

Hi: I found train station products with NKP which also lists union station. I don’t know if they had any more trucks listed though. Marty Cooper 

On June 5, 2020 at 9:15 PM Scott <repairman87@...> wrote:

Yeah, I saw that but that's just a little bit of what they made.  I guess I was wondering if they had a website to order direct from.

Scott McDonald 

 


Re: PFE R-30/40-9 reefer

Fred Jansz
 

The RC cars are 'as built' pre 1938 and too short for the reconditioned 1938-1965 WP cars (unless you use a RC R-30-9 body).
They ride on T-section trucks.
As you mentioned the RC R-30-12-9 cars have Bettendorf frames, which was only the case on maybe 200 of the 2775 WP cars (PFE's R-30-13, which was the basis for the WP cars in 1924, has the built up frame).
The RC cars are missing the bolted on side and end reinforcement strips and coupler pockets.
And the RC cars sometimes have orange feather heralds, which should be B&W.
The RCW kit is 100% appropriate for the reconditioned WP cars that ran during 1938-1965 era and I'm glad RCW offers it now.
It has better details like appropriate trucks, brake wheel and see through hatch latches. 
It can be built as a 1938-1941reconditioned WP reefer or as 1952 rebuilt (by PFE, Roseville) version with AB brake and Preco fan + plate and removed hatch platforms.
These lasted until 1965.
Add Tichy decals and silver paint and you can even turn it into a 1951 (WP Sacramento) built painted WP Ice Service reefer which lasted into the early 1970's.
Last but not least a set of Microscale or Speedwitch decals could turn it into a perfect PFE R-30/40-9 car besides the available WP options.
Fred Jansz


Re: Paint Booth

 

My paint booth and station. Plenty of storage for paint bottles, airbrushes, cleaning materials, etc. You can also make out my register mounted to the garage door to vent outside. The garage door has two 4” dryer flapper vents on the outside to keep out bugs. My pancake air compressor is also visible.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Douglas Harding <iowacentralrr@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Friday, June 5, 2020 at 11:25 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

I have made a temporary one out of a 3cube moving box (18”x18”) and a 20” box fan with a 20” furnace filter. Open the box at both ends, place the filter against the fan so the fan draws air through the filter. Put the filter at the end of the box, secure with tape if necessary. This paint booth worked very well for a spray painting clinic, using acrylic paint.

 

My home paint booth is home made out of ½” plywood. Has a plexiglas top to allow in light, furnace filter in slot at the back. Simple to build. One notation, do not use the plastic flexible dryer vent hose, esp if using solvent based paints. The corrugations of the plastic will also slow down your air flow and accumulate paint particles. I use 4” metal round duct work you can purchase at any home center. I also use a metal flexible dryer hose. I mounted my exhaust vent to a piece of plywood sized to fit a window opening. At the moment I don’t even vent to the outside, my fan sits on the floor and blows away from the booth. As I paint with acrylics I have no odor issues, simply need to remove paint particles from the air.

 

Attached is a photo of my current paint station. Laundry sink to the left for clean up. Spray booth with dirty filter, set up for down draft (I can exhaust top or bottom). Silent air compressor on the floor under the table, wood box, then fan assembly (an old Dayton fan).

 

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of akerboomk
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 1:30 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

Has anyone tried to make one out of a corrugated box?

Maybe a “triple wall” one from an appliance?

 

A bit of *real* duct tape, maybe some 1x1 corner reinforcement?

You might need something a bit more solid to mount the fan on, but…

 

Cheap & easy to modify if you don’t get it “just right” on the first try!

(I got a metal one from North Coast, quite a while ago)

 

Ken

 


--
Ken Akerboom


Re: Paint Booth

Douglas Harding
 

I have made a temporary one out of a 3cube moving box (18”x18”) and a 20” box fan with a 20” furnace filter. Open the box at both ends, place the filter against the fan so the fan draws air through the filter. Put the filter at the end of the box, secure with tape if necessary. This paint booth worked very well for a spray painting clinic, using acrylic paint.

 

My home paint booth is home made out of ½” plywood. Has a plexiglas top to allow in light, furnace filter in slot at the back. Simple to build. One notation, do not use the plastic flexible dryer vent hose, esp if using solvent based paints. The corrugations of the plastic will also slow down your air flow and accumulate paint particles. I use 4” metal round duct work you can purchase at any home center. I also use a metal flexible dryer hose. I mounted my exhaust vent to a piece of plywood sized to fit a window opening. At the moment I don’t even vent to the outside, my fan sits on the floor and blows away from the booth. As I paint with acrylics I have no odor issues, simply need to remove paint particles from the air.

 

Attached is a photo of my current paint station. Laundry sink to the left for clean up. Spray booth with dirty filter, set up for down draft (I can exhaust top or bottom). Silent air compressor on the floor under the table, wood box, then fan assembly (an old Dayton fan).

 

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of akerboomk
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 1:30 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

Has anyone tried to make one out of a corrugated box?

Maybe a “triple wall” one from an appliance?

 

A bit of *real* duct tape, maybe some 1x1 corner reinforcement?

You might need something a bit more solid to mount the fan on, but…

 

Cheap & easy to modify if you don’t get it “just right” on the first try!

(I got a metal one from North Coast, quite a while ago)

 

Ken

 


--
Ken Akerboom


PFE R-30/40-9 reefer

David
 

So, aside from the underframe, how is this different from the Red Caboose car?

David Thompson


Re: Train Station Products

Scott
 

Yeah, I saw that but that's just a little bit of what they made.  I guess I was wondering if they had a website to order direct from.

Scott McDonald 


Re: Train Station Products

Schuyler Larrabee
 

It would appear so.  Google thinks so.

 

https://unionstationproducts.com/core-kits/train-station-products-ho-core-kits

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 8:15 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Train Station Products

 

Does anybody know if Train Station Products is still around making products?  Looking for some trucks.

Thanks
Scott McDonald 


Train Station Products

Scott
 

Does anybody know if Train Station Products is still around making products?  Looking for some trucks.

Thanks
Scott McDonald 


Re: Paint Booth

Dave Boss
 

Hi Guys
             I.m using an old dryer motor for my booth. It's been in use now for 30 years with no problems.

Good Day
 Dave

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 6:41 PM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
Ed,

The type of motor is irrelevant. The reality is that the vapor is never present in sufficient concentration to burn or explode. You could theoretically airbrush with an open flame and it would not be a problem.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of spsalso via groups.io <Edwardsutorik=aol.com@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 5:37 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth
 
I think the only fan motors that would be remotely dangerous would be ones with brushes.  And I can't recall such a motor in a vent fan in decades, if ever.  I have installed a number of them.

Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: Paint Booth

Bruce Smith
 

Ed,

The type of motor is irrelevant. The reality is that the vapor is never present in sufficient concentration to burn or explode. You could theoretically airbrush with an open flame and it would not be a problem.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of spsalso via groups.io <Edwardsutorik@...>
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 5:37 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth
 
I think the only fan motors that would be remotely dangerous would be ones with brushes.  And I can't recall such a motor in a vent fan in decades, if ever.  I have installed a number of them.

Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: Paint Booth

spsalso
 

I think the only fan motors that would be remotely dangerous would be ones with brushes.  And I can't recall such a motor in a vent fan in decades, if ever.  I have installed a number of them.

Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: Photo: O&C Boxcar 88280

Bill Decker
 

Hmmmm, SP88281 looks like it met its end on the "new" Cascade Line.  That photo location looks very much like Cascade Summit.  The tip off is the slope away from the track (yes that happens elsewhere on the line) but seemingly only a few trees before opening up--for Odell Lake.  I have stared at enough photos (and shot my own) at that site to recognize it.  IF so, the car is set out on the Beatty Spur (actually dual ended) that usually saw the accumulation of steam helpers--ACs--Cab Forwards--prior to returning to the helper base at Oakridge, Oregon.,  Neat photo.  It looks like someone shoved too hard.  <wink>  IF truly at Cascade Summit, that places the photo after the 1926 construction of the line.

Bill Decker
McMinnville, Oregon
Modeling the SP Cascade Line in HO scale.


Re: Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 44192

Dave Parker
 

That's the first image I have seen of a DL&W USRA car refitted with an Ajax brake.  The B&M did the same thing ca. 1946, although they were functionally gone by 1954.

The exact street location in Phoenix is given if you go to the actual blog page:

http://www.historyadventuring.com/2018/11/walking-along-railroad-tracks-in-old.html

--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 44192

Charles Morrill
 

Quite a diverse assortment of box car road names spotted at a single industry at the same time.  I think this is SP trackage judging from the single tie head block on the switch.

Charlie 


 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 12:05 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 44192

 

Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 44192

A 1945 photo from the History Adventuring blog:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KDUsIIyBQuA/W_8mgm3SheI/AAAAAAAAqbc/pV7AEkpPegE_Iw5GfVGHUaUpPwpO_jjtACLcBGAs/s1600/Advance_Seed_Co_railroad_tracks_24th_Ave_Madison_1945.jpg

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



Re: Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 44192

Eric Hansmann
 

Heck, I like all five of those boxcars!

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 12:05 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 44192

 

Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 44192

A 1945 photo from the History Adventuring blog:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KDUsIIyBQuA/W_8mgm3SheI/AAAAAAAAqbc/pV7AEkpPegE_Iw5GfVGHUaUpPwpO_jjtACLcBGAs/s1600/Advance_Seed_Co_railroad_tracks_24th_Ave_Madison_1945.jpg

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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