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Re: Paint Booth

 

My paint booth and station. Plenty of storage for paint bottles, airbrushes, cleaning materials, etc. You can also make out my register mounted to the garage door to vent outside. The garage door has two 4” dryer flapper vents on the outside to keep out bugs. My pancake air compressor is also visible.

 

 

Thanks!
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Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Douglas Harding <iowacentralrr@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Friday, June 5, 2020 at 11:25 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

I have made a temporary one out of a 3cube moving box (18”x18”) and a 20” box fan with a 20” furnace filter. Open the box at both ends, place the filter against the fan so the fan draws air through the filter. Put the filter at the end of the box, secure with tape if necessary. This paint booth worked very well for a spray painting clinic, using acrylic paint.

 

My home paint booth is home made out of ½” plywood. Has a plexiglas top to allow in light, furnace filter in slot at the back. Simple to build. One notation, do not use the plastic flexible dryer vent hose, esp if using solvent based paints. The corrugations of the plastic will also slow down your air flow and accumulate paint particles. I use 4” metal round duct work you can purchase at any home center. I also use a metal flexible dryer hose. I mounted my exhaust vent to a piece of plywood sized to fit a window opening. At the moment I don’t even vent to the outside, my fan sits on the floor and blows away from the booth. As I paint with acrylics I have no odor issues, simply need to remove paint particles from the air.

 

Attached is a photo of my current paint station. Laundry sink to the left for clean up. Spray booth with dirty filter, set up for down draft (I can exhaust top or bottom). Silent air compressor on the floor under the table, wood box, then fan assembly (an old Dayton fan).

 

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of akerboomk
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 1:30 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

Has anyone tried to make one out of a corrugated box?

Maybe a “triple wall” one from an appliance?

 

A bit of *real* duct tape, maybe some 1x1 corner reinforcement?

You might need something a bit more solid to mount the fan on, but…

 

Cheap & easy to modify if you don’t get it “just right” on the first try!

(I got a metal one from North Coast, quite a while ago)

 

Ken

 


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Ken Akerboom


Re: Paint Booth

Douglas Harding
 

I have made a temporary one out of a 3cube moving box (18”x18”) and a 20” box fan with a 20” furnace filter. Open the box at both ends, place the filter against the fan so the fan draws air through the filter. Put the filter at the end of the box, secure with tape if necessary. This paint booth worked very well for a spray painting clinic, using acrylic paint.

 

My home paint booth is home made out of ½” plywood. Has a plexiglas top to allow in light, furnace filter in slot at the back. Simple to build. One notation, do not use the plastic flexible dryer vent hose, esp if using solvent based paints. The corrugations of the plastic will also slow down your air flow and accumulate paint particles. I use 4” metal round duct work you can purchase at any home center. I also use a metal flexible dryer hose. I mounted my exhaust vent to a piece of plywood sized to fit a window opening. At the moment I don’t even vent to the outside, my fan sits on the floor and blows away from the booth. As I paint with acrylics I have no odor issues, simply need to remove paint particles from the air.

 

Attached is a photo of my current paint station. Laundry sink to the left for clean up. Spray booth with dirty filter, set up for down draft (I can exhaust top or bottom). Silent air compressor on the floor under the table, wood box, then fan assembly (an old Dayton fan).

 

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of akerboomk
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 1:30 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

Has anyone tried to make one out of a corrugated box?

Maybe a “triple wall” one from an appliance?

 

A bit of *real* duct tape, maybe some 1x1 corner reinforcement?

You might need something a bit more solid to mount the fan on, but…

 

Cheap & easy to modify if you don’t get it “just right” on the first try!

(I got a metal one from North Coast, quite a while ago)

 

Ken

 


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Ken Akerboom


PFE R-30/40-9 reefer

David
 

So, aside from the underframe, how is this different from the Red Caboose car?

David Thompson


Re: Train Station Products

Scott
 

Yeah, I saw that but that's just a little bit of what they made.  I guess I was wondering if they had a website to order direct from.

Scott McDonald 


Re: Train Station Products

Schuyler Larrabee
 

It would appear so.  Google thinks so.

 

https://unionstationproducts.com/core-kits/train-station-products-ho-core-kits

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 8:15 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Train Station Products

 

Does anybody know if Train Station Products is still around making products?  Looking for some trucks.

Thanks
Scott McDonald 


Train Station Products

Scott
 

Does anybody know if Train Station Products is still around making products?  Looking for some trucks.

Thanks
Scott McDonald 


Re: Paint Booth

Dave Boss
 

Hi Guys
             I.m using an old dryer motor for my booth. It's been in use now for 30 years with no problems.

Good Day
 Dave

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 6:41 PM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
Ed,

The type of motor is irrelevant. The reality is that the vapor is never present in sufficient concentration to burn or explode. You could theoretically airbrush with an open flame and it would not be a problem.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of spsalso via groups.io <Edwardsutorik=aol.com@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 5:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth
 
I think the only fan motors that would be remotely dangerous would be ones with brushes.  And I can't recall such a motor in a vent fan in decades, if ever.  I have installed a number of them.

Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: Paint Booth

Bruce Smith
 

Ed,

The type of motor is irrelevant. The reality is that the vapor is never present in sufficient concentration to burn or explode. You could theoretically airbrush with an open flame and it would not be a problem.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of spsalso via groups.io <Edwardsutorik@...>
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 5:37 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth
 
I think the only fan motors that would be remotely dangerous would be ones with brushes.  And I can't recall such a motor in a vent fan in decades, if ever.  I have installed a number of them.

Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: Paint Booth

spsalso
 

I think the only fan motors that would be remotely dangerous would be ones with brushes.  And I can't recall such a motor in a vent fan in decades, if ever.  I have installed a number of them.

Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: Photo: O&C Boxcar 88280

Bill Decker
 

Hmmmm, SP88281 looks like it met its end on the "new" Cascade Line.  That photo location looks very much like Cascade Summit.  The tip off is the slope away from the track (yes that happens elsewhere on the line) but seemingly only a few trees before opening up--for Odell Lake.  I have stared at enough photos (and shot my own) at that site to recognize it.  IF so, the car is set out on the Beatty Spur (actually dual ended) that usually saw the accumulation of steam helpers--ACs--Cab Forwards--prior to returning to the helper base at Oakridge, Oregon.,  Neat photo.  It looks like someone shoved too hard.  <wink>  IF truly at Cascade Summit, that places the photo after the 1926 construction of the line.

Bill Decker
McMinnville, Oregon
Modeling the SP Cascade Line in HO scale.


Re: Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 44192

Dave Parker
 

That's the first image I have seen of a DL&W USRA car refitted with an Ajax brake.  The B&M did the same thing ca. 1946, although they were functionally gone by 1954.

The exact street location in Phoenix is given if you go to the actual blog page:

http://www.historyadventuring.com/2018/11/walking-along-railroad-tracks-in-old.html

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Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 44192

Charles Morrill
 

Quite a diverse assortment of box car road names spotted at a single industry at the same time.  I think this is SP trackage judging from the single tie head block on the switch.

Charlie 


 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 12:05 PM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 44192

 

Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 44192

A 1945 photo from the History Adventuring blog:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KDUsIIyBQuA/W_8mgm3SheI/AAAAAAAAqbc/pV7AEkpPegE_Iw5GfVGHUaUpPwpO_jjtACLcBGAs/s1600/Advance_Seed_Co_railroad_tracks_24th_Ave_Madison_1945.jpg

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



Re: Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 44192

Eric Hansmann
 

Heck, I like all five of those boxcars!

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 12:05 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 44192

 

Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 44192

A 1945 photo from the History Adventuring blog:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KDUsIIyBQuA/W_8mgm3SheI/AAAAAAAAqbc/pV7AEkpPegE_Iw5GfVGHUaUpPwpO_jjtACLcBGAs/s1600/Advance_Seed_Co_railroad_tracks_24th_Ave_Madison_1945.jpg

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 44192

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 44192

A 1945 photo from the History Adventuring blog:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KDUsIIyBQuA/W_8mgm3SheI/AAAAAAAAqbc/pV7AEkpPegE_Iw5GfVGHUaUpPwpO_jjtACLcBGAs/s1600/Advance_Seed_Co_railroad_tracks_24th_Ave_Madison_1945.jpg

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Paint Booth

Andy Carlson
 

Many of us know that bathroom ceiling fans are called "Fart Fans" by people in the construction trade. If a fart won't be ignited with its explosive methane, I suppose paint fumes are going to be safe?

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Friday, June 5, 2020, 7:50:48 AM PDT, Mont Switzer <mswitzer@...> wrote:


I can offer no scientific evidence that bathroom fans are safe or not, but I’ve been painting in a homemade spray booth equipped with a bathroom fan for over 40 years, using lacquer based paints,  so I doubt that is what will get me when it is my time.  I think I’m on my second bathroom fan.

 

Mont Switzer

 

...........care should be taken when selecting a fan for a paint booth. The fan motor could cause atomized paints to ignite if it is not sealed or isolated from the airflow





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Re: Paint Booth

 

I built one from plywood, metal air duct and a Dayton squirrel cage blower (https://www.grainger.com/product/DAYTON-OEM-Blower-4C444

Details on the build are here on my site: http://sluggyjunx.com/workshop/carpentry/2005_01_23-spray_booth/index.html

I moved in 2010 and have since retrofitted it into a permanent steel duct that exits outside the house. Some photos here: http://gallery.sluggyjunx.com/railroad_and_industrial/georgetownbranch/modelrailroad/2010-11_model_rr/basement_construction?page=19

The build was rather straightforward and I took advantage of scrap material I had laying around. I have since installed a valance to assist in keeping the fumes inside the booth. I would also like to upgrade the lighting, but I'm working on a budget. The blower was rather expensive but I wanted something that could move lots of air. A side benefit of this hardy blower is that when I am doing work elsewhere in the layout room or area, say with solvent-based medium, I can use this fan to exhaust the fumes out without much of an issue. It does a great job. 

 - Ben

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Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD


Re: Photo: O&C Boxcar 88280

Tim O'Connor
 


Note the small lettering on the door here.


 
I didn’t know what O&C stood for in terms of reporting marks, so I looked it up, it is Oregon & California Railroad. Posting this info since perhaps there might be others who might not know. The line later became part of SP.
 
 
Claus Schlund
 


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: CNW: Not the most common SS box car

Tim O'Connor
 


Thanks Jeff ! Here is the 1955 ORER entry with the assignment note.


On 6/5/2020 8:22 AM, Jeff Eggert wrote:

CNW 5916 was converted to wet pulp service from CNW 61528 on October 25, 1954.  CNW 61528 shows as being built by CNW at Winona MN, June 23, 1927.  The car was destroyed January 18, 1968.  This from the CNWHS car card for this car.

Jeff Eggert



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Paint Booth

Mont Switzer
 

I can offer no scientific evidence that bathroom fans are safe or not, but I’ve been painting in a homemade spray booth equipped with a bathroom fan for over 40 years, using lacquer based paints,  so I doubt that is what will get me when it is my time.  I think I’m on my second bathroom fan.

 

Mont Switzer

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Smith
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 9:14 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

Mark,

 

We've had this discussion previously and proven quite conclusively that there is no concern with this. I suggest that you check the archives and stop promulgating this inaccurate statement. It is just another fantasy of the model railroad press. 

 

Regards,

Bruce

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL

 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Mark Stamm <mark@...>
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 7:48 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Paint Booth

 

Great care should be taken when selecting a fan for a paint booth. The fan motor could cause atomized paints to ignite if it is not sealed or isolated from the airflow.

Mark P Stamm
Mark at Euphoriatt dot Com

Sent from my mobile device



Re: Photo: O&C Boxcar 88280

Eric Lombard
 


Good Morning, Freight Car Fellows...

Attached is a service summary for the series to which #88280 belongs. Ordered 2-1913 as 100 in a 2290 car order and built 9 to 10-1913. Last members of the series, #88261, 88273, retired in 1948.

Eric L
Homewood, IL
SP 88281.jpg

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:05 PM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

I’ve checked a couple early ORER listings for O&C 88280. I found the car listed in the 1915 ORER. It has a 14-foot, 3-inch height to the running board, a foot taller.

 

BTW, the CH&D car was built in 1915, so the image could not be earlier.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 3:57 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: O&C Boxcar 88280

 

Yes, Eric, it’s distorted but mostly horizontally.  It looks very wide.  But look at the car in relation to the man on the platform.  It’s clearly not as tall a car as the one originally referenced for this picture.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 4:34 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: O&C Boxcar 88280

 

The CH&D car would become one of the B&O M-23 class by WW1. Height to running board was 13-foot, 3-inches. I suspect the camera lens has affected the car appearance.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 11:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: O&C Boxcar 88280

 

Also, a Cincinnati, Hamilton & Detroit box car at the end of the spur, a LONG ways from home.  Very short (i.e., not tall) car.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 12:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: O&C Boxcar 88280

 

Photo: O&C Boxcar 88280

An undated photo from the University of Oregon Libraries:

https://oregondigital.org/catalog/oregondigital:df738t96m

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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