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New boxcars for sale

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello,

Some new wood, double sheathed, boxcars have arrived this week.

First is the Northern Pacific, wood sidded boxcars, with radial roofs and lever brake "wheels". they come in 4 paint schemes.

As built 1923, the 1940 version with red ends, the 1945 version with black ends and the 1951 version with "Main Street" slogan. The builder is Rapido and this is the second run of these cars. I do have a handfull of cars from the first run for those needing more numbers.

Also the Rapido USRA double sheathed box cars have arrived. Have GN, MP, PM, Wabash and B&M.

All at discounted prices. contact off list if interested.

Just a reminder about the newest shippers guides being from : Illinois Central, L&N and CNW.

Rails Unlimited
Ted Schnepf126 Will Scarlet,Elgin, Ill. 60120

847=697-5353


Re: Is the Dremel type of cut off disc "The good ones" still available?

Jim Hayes
 

Andy, I can send you a few if you're desperate.

    Jim

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 1:30 PM Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
I had a large number of Dremel type of cut off discs which survived much better than the Dremel house brand. I am now all used up and no hobby store I have been to has had the replacements.

Is this company still in business and are these discs available?

Thanks for any help.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Sandy Valley and Elkhorn steel gondola

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi Mel, Ben, and List Members,
 
The BR&P wood gondola looks like it is well cared for and still in very good condition.
 
The Sandy Valley and Elkhorn steel gondola looks like it just came from the factory a week ago! Sadly, I can only read “CSCo 7-“ as the builders info – the year is not visible.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

From: Benjamin Hom
Sent: 12 June, 2020 16:09
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Sandy Valley and Elkhorn steel gondola
 
Mel Perry wrote:
"that BR&P [gon] can't still be in active service?"
 
Why not?  The photo is dated 1912, and you can make out rails through the weeds.
 
 
Ben Hom


Re: What is the reason for an offset door arrangement on some boxcars?

Charlie Vlk
 

All-

Scratch that answer….my answer applies to double doors and very wide singles, not offset doors per se.  Some single door cars had offset doors as well, likely to accommodate threading long items into the car.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:35 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] What is the reason for an offset door arrangement on some boxcars?

 

All-

Also to facilitate the use of forklift trucks.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 2:05 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] What is the reason for an offset door arrangement on some boxcars?

 

David Payne asked:

"A friend asked the subject question and rather than speculate, I thought I'd ask here."

 

Assuming the question concerns double door boxcars, it's to facilitate getting a long load into the car.

 

 

Ben Hom


Re: What methods do you use to add weight to an empty flatcar?

Dave Parker
 

I'm reasonably confident that Ben meant tungsten (1.7x the density of lead) rather than titanium. 
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: What is the reason for an offset door arrangement on some boxcars?

Charlie Vlk
 

All-

Also to facilitate the use of forklift trucks.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 2:05 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] What is the reason for an offset door arrangement on some boxcars?

 

David Payne asked:

"A friend asked the subject question and rather than speculate, I thought I'd ask here."

 

Assuming the question concerns double door boxcars, it's to facilitate getting a long load into the car.

 

 

Ben Hom


Is the Dremel type of cut off disc "The good ones" still available?

Andy Carlson
 

I had a large number of Dremel type of cut off discs which survived much better than the Dremel house brand. I am now all used up and no hobby store I have been to has had the replacements.

Is this company still in business and are these discs available?

Thanks for any help.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Sandy Valley and Elkhorn steel gondola

erieblt2
 

I always try to ballast my track(yard, industrial trackage, sidings) like the dirt shown in this fascinating photo. It makes my (mediocre-compared to cars on this site!) look much better. The junk everywhere is interesting also-as well as the gondolas. Bill S


On Jun 12, 2020, at 1:12 PM, mel perry <clipper841@...> wrote:


the photo date was not visible (cell)
thanks for the correction
mel perry

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 1:09 PM Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:
Mel Perry wrote:
"that BR&P [gon] can't still be in active service?"

Why not?  The photo is dated 1912, and you can make out rails through the weeds.


Ben Hom


C&IM coal gondola service?

vapeurchapelon
 

Hello friends,

here is a video showing the SANTA FE at war:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggVR4nZ6OeY

The run-by at 7:20 has 3 of the distinctive large C&IM coal gondolas. I don't doubt that these cars would have been in interchange, but I personally only saw them in home-road coal drag service. What could have been the reason(s) for just a few of them running on other roads?

Many thanks and greetings

Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953


Re: What methods do you use to add weight to an empty flatcar?

Benjamin Hom
 

Tony Thompson wrote:
"Lead is significantly denser than brass. Titanium is rather less dense than either. I agree with Ben that lead is an excellent choice, especially in sheet form. You can readily buy this from roofers' supply stores (sometimes plumbers also) even if your local Big Box no longer carries it. And an advantage of lead is that it is so soft, you can readily "forge" pieces to fit where they need to go in an under frame. You barely need a hammer."

To add - I don't like using the traditional kit-provided steel weights for light open cars, especially if you are using under track uncoupling magnets or the Rix uncoupling tool, as the magnets will "grab" the cars.


Ben Hom  


Re: Sandy Valley and Elkhorn steel gondola

mel perry
 

the photo date was not visible (cell)
thanks for the correction
mel perry

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 1:09 PM Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:
Mel Perry wrote:
"that BR&P [gon] can't still be in active service?"

Why not?  The photo is dated 1912, and you can make out rails through the weeds.


Ben Hom


Re: Sandy Valley and Elkhorn steel gondola

Benjamin Hom
 

Mel Perry wrote:
"that BR&P [gon] can't still be in active service?"

Why not?  The photo is dated 1912, and you can make out rails through the weeds.


Ben Hom


I’ve never seen a Union RR boxcar before

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
I’ve never seen a Union RR boxcar before. Plenty of gondolas, never a boxcar though.
 
See link below.
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: What methods do you use to add weight to an empty flatcar?

Drew M.
 

I recently completed an F&C Rutland flat which I filled the area within the center sill with sheet lead. With metal trucks it tracks well.

Drew Marshall, Philly, PA

Modeling the pre-Depression years.

Sent from TypeApp

On Jun 12, 2020, at 15:15, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:
I just received two of Chad Boas MP flatcar kits.  What methods are you all using to add weight so a flatcar can be run as an empty. 


Re: double sheathed boxcar with a herald

Benjamin Hom
 

Claus Schlund asked:
"In the image linked below, I can see a partial view of a double sheathed boxcar with a herald. Reading it as well as I can, it seems to be proclaiming

CH&D&PM
SYSTEM
GREAT CENTRAL ROUTE

Image is dated 1907. Can anyone tell me what railroad this was?"
https://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.07554.CP/viewer 

CH&D = Cincinnati, Hamilton & Dayton.  PM = Pere Marquette, which the CH&D controlled 1904-1912.  The CH&D was eventually acquired by the B&O in 1917.


Ben Hom


Re: Sandy Valley and Elkhorn steel gondola

mel perry
 

that BR&P can't still be in active service?
mel perry

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 12:52 PM Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
I like this view of a Sandy Valley and Elkhorn steel gondola. It is labeled as part of the B&O system.
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: What methods do you use to add weight to an empty flatcar?

Tony Thompson
 

Ben Hom wrote:

Plan ahead.  Figure out what will and won't be visible when the car is on the track to determine where you can hide weight.  To echo Richard Hendrickson, no point in modeling what won't be seen, and not modeling underframe or brake details in exchange for accommodating weight is a fair trade if you want the car to operate well.  Try to maximize the amount of weight for the volume available - if you can't cut pieces of sheet lead, consider using the smallest shot you can find.  (I'm not sold on more exotic solutions such as titanium dust as the cost doesn't seem to justify the incremental gain).  Consider using thin sheet brass or lead under the deck if possible, and metal trucks if the correct type is available.  Don't wait until the car is painted and decaled before deciding to add weight to the car (or work coupler and truck issues for that matter).

    Lead is significantly denser than brass. Titanium is rather less dense than either. I agree with Ben that lead is an excellent choice, especially in sheet form. You can readily buy this from roofers' supply stores (sometimes plumbers also) even if your local Big Box no longer carries it. And an advantage of lead is that it is so soft, you can readily "forge" pieces to fit where they need to go in an under frame. You barely need a hammer.
     There have occasionally been outbreaks of hysteria about the health dangers of lead. Well, lead in metallic form is not dangerous. It does have lead oxide on its surface, so do wash your hands after handling it, but beyond that, not to worry. 

Tony Thompson




Sandy Valley and Elkhorn steel gondola

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
I like this view of a Sandy Valley and Elkhorn steel gondola. It is labeled as part of the B&O system.
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


double sheathed boxcar with a herald

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
In the image linked below, I can see a partial view of a double sheathed boxcar with a herald. Reading it as well as I can, it seems to be proclaiming
 
CH&D&PM
SYSTEM
GREAT CENTRAL ROUTE
 
Image is dated 1907. Can anyone tell me what railroad this was?
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: What methods do you use to add weight to an empty flatcar?

O Fenton Wells
 

Charlie I use sheet lead cut into pieces that will fit underneath the body.  Then use contact cement to attach them.  I put the cement on both pieces and let them dry completely before pressing the lead into the body.
Fenton


On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 3:15 PM Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:
I just received two of Chad Boas MP flatcar kits.  What methods are you all using to add weight so a flatcar can be run as an empty. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.



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