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Re: train station products

Benjamin Hom
 

Mel Perry wrote:
"i don't know how old this page is, but
read it carefully, google is our friend"

Link to the webpage instead of a gif would be helpful.


Ben Hom


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Hauling Sand before Covered Hoppers Became Popular

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Schuyler;

 

From my research and experiences, there were some in my area that were important:  foundry sand, glass sand, “green” sand, and locomotive sand.

 

What were the properties that were important to those uses, and how would this affect shipment and cars used?

 

Thanks!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:08 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Hauling Sand before Covered Hoppers Became Popular

 

There are two varieties of sand (and probably further distinctions can be made of each).  There’s beach sand, which is rounded grains (also what’s in the Sahara desert) from the wave (and wind) action.  I would surmise that variety of sand would need to be covered so it doesn’t blow away.

The other variety is angular sand, which comes from (typically) sand pits away from water.  Angular sand is required for use in concrete, as it will lock together with the cement matrix to form a solid durable structure.  I would guess that angular sand >might< be shipped without being covered as it would be less likely to blow away in transit.

 

And at this point I will point out one of my pet issues with the distinction between concrete and cement.  Cement is an element in making concrete.  Cement is not, directly, concrete.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of reporterllc via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 10:17 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Hauling Sand before Coverd Hoppers Became Popular

 

What kind of car was used? I am referring to bulk sand from a pit that ships out sand and gravel. Perhaps this sand would not be that specialized. Wouldn't it need to be protected from the weather? On a side note, In the early 1970s (long after covered hoppers became popular) I remember a tower operator referring to an ancient gondola in a consist loaded with sand. I did not see it and wondered if it was covered.

Victor A. Baird
Blockedhttp://www.erstwhilepublications.com


train station products

mel perry
 

i don't know how old this page is, but
read it carefully, google is our friend


Re: Hauling Sand before Covered Hoppers Became Popular

O Fenton Wells
 

Cement is not concrete was drummed into my head when I was in the contracting business years ago.  


On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 1:08 PM Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

There are two varieties of sand (and probably further distinctions can be made of each).  There’s beach sand, which is rounded grains (also what’s in the Sahara desert) from the wave (and wind) action.  I would surmise that variety of sand would need to be covered so it doesn’t blow away.

The other variety is angular sand, which comes from (typically) sand pits away from water.  Angular sand is required for use in concrete, as it will lock together with the cement matrix to form a solid durable structure.  I would guess that angular sand >might< be shipped without being covered as it would be less likely to blow away in transit.

 

And at this point I will point out one of my pet issues with the distinction between concrete and cement.  Cement is an element in making concrete.  Cement is not, directly, concrete.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of reporterllc via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 10:17 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Hauling Sand before Coverd Hoppers Became Popular

 

What kind of car was used? I am referring to bulk sand from a pit that ships out sand and gravel. Perhaps this sand would not be that specialized. Wouldn't it need to be protected from the weather? On a side note, In the early 1970s (long after covered hoppers became popular) I remember a tower operator referring to an ancient gondola in a consist loaded with sand. I did not see it and wondered if it was covered.

Victor A. Baird
http://www.erstwhilepublications.com



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250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Re: Hauling Sand before Covered Hoppers Became Popular

Schuyler Larrabee
 

There are two varieties of sand (and probably further distinctions can be made of each).  There’s beach sand, which is rounded grains (also what’s in the Sahara desert) from the wave (and wind) action.  I would surmise that variety of sand would need to be covered so it doesn’t blow away.

The other variety is angular sand, which comes from (typically) sand pits away from water.  Angular sand is required for use in concrete, as it will lock together with the cement matrix to form a solid durable structure.  I would guess that angular sand >might< be shipped without being covered as it would be less likely to blow away in transit.

 

And at this point I will point out one of my pet issues with the distinction between concrete and cement.  Cement is an element in making concrete.  Cement is not, directly, concrete.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of reporterllc via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 10:17 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Hauling Sand before Coverd Hoppers Became Popular

 

What kind of car was used? I am referring to bulk sand from a pit that ships out sand and gravel. Perhaps this sand would not be that specialized. Wouldn't it need to be protected from the weather? On a side note, In the early 1970s (long after covered hoppers became popular) I remember a tower operator referring to an ancient gondola in a consist loaded with sand. I did not see it and wondered if it was covered.

Victor A. Baird
http://www.erstwhilepublications.com


Re: PFE R-30/40-9 reefer

Richard Bale <Rhbale@...>
 

Hi Eric...

Does the new WP reefer include decals?
Can you expand a bit on the detail parts including what type/brand of brake wheel?
Thanks
Richard

In a message dated 6/5/2020 4:20:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, eric@... writes:

Resin Car Works has added a PFE reefer to our kit line. Our latest blog post has the details.

Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


Hauling Sand before Coverd Hoppers Became Popular

reporterllc
 

What kind of car was used? I am referring to bulk sand from a pit that ships out sand and gravel. Perhaps this sand would not be that specialized. Wouldn't it need to be protected from the weather? On a side note, In the early 1970s (long after covered hoppers became popular) I remember a tower operator referring to an ancient gondola in a consist loaded with sand. I did not see it and wondered if it was covered.

Victor A. Baird
http://www.erstwhilepublications.com


Re: Train Station Products

Dan Miller
 

I made an order with Tom Scheid of NKP Car a few months ago, which included some Train Station Products passenger car core kits.  I asked about  an out-of-stock TSP product, and for contact information so I could get in touch with TSP directly, but Tom said that the owner at TSP "doesn't like to be contacted by customers."  As far as I know, there is no way to order directly from TSP.  I'd suggest getting in touch with a company that supplies TSP products to help you out.  From what I could tell, TSP is still manufacturing product.

Dan Miller


On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 6:15 PM Scott <repairman87@...> wrote:
Yeah, I saw that but that's just a little bit of what they made.  I guess I was wondering if they had a website to order direct from.

Scott McDonald 


Re: Paint Booth

Daniel Brewer <drbnd@...>
 

Hi all,
I bought a bilge fan for less than $20 via Walmart’s website. It’s for exhausting fuel fumes from boats, so very safe. Booth made from 1/2” foam core tacked together with hot glue. Light, portable, and cheap to replace.
Dan


Re: Don Valentine

Paul Doggett
 

Bruce

Thank you I obviously didn’t answer the email.
Paul

On 16 Jun 2020, at 17:32, Bruce Smith <@smithbf> wrote:

Paul, Folks

Don's account is almost certain not hacked, but "spoofed". That is where someone pretends to be you. They do not need access to your account. The mail, incoming to the server from the spoofer, appears to be coming from Don. Thus the server says "Aha! An email from a member! I can send that one on." and so it does. Don's account is probably completely safe, although a change of passwords would be in order. This view is reinforced by a spate of this happening on our lists... probably because someone was dumb enough to reply. About the only way to really combat this is to put a list on moderated status for a while.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL



Re: Don Valentine

Bruce Smith
 

Paul, Folks

Don's account is almost certain not hacked, but "spoofed". That is where someone pretends to be you. They do not need access to your account. The mail, incoming to the server from the spoofer, appears to be coming from Don. Thus the server says "Aha! An email from a member! I can send that one on." and so it does. Don's account is probably completely safe, although a change of passwords would be in order. This view is reinforced by a spate of this happening on our lists... probably because someone was dumb enough to reply. About the only way to really combat this is to put a list on moderated status for a while.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


Don Valentine

Paul Doggett
 

Your account has been hacked I have have two emails asking for a favour from Don Valentine

Paul Doggett England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿


How Are You Doing?

Donald B. Valentine
 

Hi

Can I Ask You a Favor.

Thank you.
Donald Valentine


Re: UMM Tools

Brian Stokes
 

Anyone tried the rivet decals from UMM? I ordered a couple while I was getting other stuff from them as they are less expensive than Archer rivets but have yet to play with them...
--
Brian Stokes
https://northpoint48.blogspot.com/


How Are You Doing?

Donald B. Valentine
 

Hi

Can I Ask You a Favor.

Thank you.
Donald Valentine



Re: Photo: IC Drop-Bottom Gondola Interior

akerboomk
 

Don’t forget the ventilated L&N (and C of G) boxes to the right


--
Ken Akerboom


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: IC Drop-Bottom Gondola Interior

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Tony;

 

I have a Sunshine ATSF gon that had separate “metal” doors for weight, that I “damaged” to see what operators would do with it.  One door was hanging by a chain so there was an unsealed opening in the floor.

 

It did not always dissuade operators from loading it anyway!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 1:50 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: IC Drop-Bottom Gondola Interior

 

Bob Chaparro wrote:

Photo: IC Drop-Bottom Gondola Interior

An undated photo from the Louisiana Digital Library:

Blockedhttps://louisianadigitallibrary.org/islandora/object/hnoc-clf%3A5198

 

    I love the battered drop doors. Does anyone model this?

 

Tony Thompson

 

 

 


Re: Photo: Embalmed Whale Carrier

Peter Weiglin
 

True enough.  Comedian Herb Shriner, whose humor was based upon his small-town upbringing, said,
"We haven't had so much excitement around here since that feller come through town with a dead whale on a flat car."

Shrine also said, "We had a newspaper in my town, but nobody read it; we knew what everybody was doing.
Well, we bought the paper occasionally, to see if they had been caught at it."

Peter Weiglin


ADMIN: Re: May i ask you a favor?

Aley, Jeff A
 

No, you may not ask us a favor.

 

Obviously Bob’s account has been hacked; I saw the same msg from him on the PassengerCarList.  Bob’s account is being Moderated, so we shouldn’t see any more messages like this from his account.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff Aley

Deputy Moderator,

RealSTMFC

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chapman
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] May i ask you a favor?

 

Hello,

Can i ask you a favor, Do you have an amazon account?

Thanks


Photo: N&W Door-And-A-Half Boxcar 511751

David
 

Close, number is 51751, N&W class BS. This was a 10' inside height car with Climax radial roof.

David Thompson