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Re: PRR X31A facts you want to know
Benjamin Hom
Vince Altiere asked: "Did you use 1/2 inch tape on your car?? I would think 1/4 inch would be better. Please let me know." As Tim posted, you trim it as necessary. Ben Hom
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Re: PRR X31A facts you want to know
vincent altiere
Hello Ben,
Did you use 1/2 inch tape on your car?? I would think 1/4 inch would be better. Please let me know.
Vince Altiere
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From: Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Sent: Fri, Jun 19, 2020 9:45 am Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR X31A facts you want to know Tim O'Connor wrote:
"Method #5 - plastic self adhesive tape from an electronic label maker - easier to apply than the bare metal foil and can be stretched a little if necessary. Easily cut into shapes (gusset plates, etc.)" Chuck Cover asked:
"Can you give us more information on this product? I am not sure what you are describing." Here's an example - Dymo sells a similar product for their label makers:
This isn't the old thick embossed label stock for the manual hand-held label makers - this is a peel-and-stick printable tape. It works nicely - here's a Walthers (ex-Train Miniature) Class X29 boxcar that has patch panels made from this material. It was a bit difficult getting it over the large rivets of the old model, but I do like the effect more than decals (which tend to disappear under the paint) and Bare-Metal Foil (which I find to be too subtle).
Ben Hom
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Re: PRR X31A facts you want to know
Benjamin Hom
Tim O'Connor wrote: "Method #5 - plastic self adhesive tape from an electronic label maker - easier to apply than the bare metal foil and can be stretched a little if necessary. Easily cut into shapes (gusset plates, etc.)" Chuck Cover asked: "Can you give us more information on this product? I am not sure what you are describing." Here's an example - Dymo sells a similar product for their label makers: This isn't the old thick embossed label stock for the manual hand-held label makers - this is a peel-and-stick printable tape. It works nicely - here's a Walthers (ex-Train Miniature) Class X29 boxcar that has patch panels made from this material. It was a bit difficult getting it over the large rivets of the old model, but I do like the effect more than decals (which tend to disappear under the paint) and Bare-Metal Foil (which I find to be too subtle). Ben Hom
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Re: PRR X31A facts you want to know
Chuck Cover
RE: Method #5 - plastic self adhesive tape from an electronic label maker - easier to apply than
Chuck Cover Santa Fe, NM
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Re: What methods do you use to add weight to an empty flatcar?
Peter Weiglin
Weights and lead shot -- I started thinking (always dangerous). Smallest shot packs more densely. It follows that lead powder would be densest of all.
Turns out that lead powder is used to add weight to golf clubs, and is available (except, it seems, in eco-freaky California) I bought a pound of it for about ten bucks. Drip CA or matte medium into the cavity, and add lead powder. Works. Of course, for things like flat cars, sheet lead, 1/16" thick, is sold for roofing purposes, Cut to shape. Use two layers if necessary and possicle. Also useful for replacing or auglenting the weights in any kind of car. Peter Weiglin
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PRR X31A facts you want to know
Andy Carlson
Steel wool takes a lot of the shine off which makes paint adhesion better. I think years ago I tried painting an unscuffed trim with Accupaint with 30 percent added auto finish supply shop's universal flex additive and that seemed to work well at the time. I have only white and chrome Monokote Trim and never have painted the chrome. The chrome is used for making stainless steel using the Highliners' Paul Lubliner's technique of stainless steel replication in HO scale. Basically he uses a very thin lacquer wash of purple over chrome. Works on plastic vacumm chrome as well, but totally a failure on fine grounded pigment silver or aluminum paint. Needs to be 100 percent mirror-reflective smooth to work well. -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
On Thursday, June 18, 2020, 6:51:41 PM PDT, Richard Townsend via groups.io <richtownsend@...> wrote:
Does it take paint well? Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
-----Original Message----- From: Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Sent: Thu, Jun 18, 2020 5:47 pm Subject: [RealSTMFC] PRR X31A facts you want to know Or equally useful, the very thin polymer peel & stick product, Monokote Trim. An RC item which I am constantly finding plenty of uses for it. Sticks well and holds rivet impressions. It is available in dozens of different colors, so a patch color choice may eliminate paint touch-up. About 3 x 30 inches and less than $7.
-Andy Carlson
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Re: Photo: Boxed Automobiles On Flatcars
Rupert Gamlen
As New Zealand’s population was so small, it did not have its own vehicle manufacturers, so vehicle were either shipped here complete or partially
disassembled, crated, transported by rail and then shipped here for reassembly. Later, some parts were manufactured within NZ and completely knocked down cars (“CKD’s”), minus those parts which were to be locally sourced, were imported.
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 12:35 pm To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxed Automobiles On Flatcars
Could B&W be the receiving company? Richard Townsend Lincoln City, OR
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Re: PRR X31A facts you want to know
Richard Townsend
Does it take paint well? Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Sent: Thu, Jun 18, 2020 5:47 pm Subject: [RealSTMFC] PRR X31A facts you want to know Or equally useful, the very thin polymer peel & stick product, Monokote Trim. An RC item which I am constantly finding plenty of uses for it. Sticks well and holds rivet impressions. It is available in dozens of different colors, so a patch color choice may eliminate paint touch-up. About 3 x 30 inches and less than $7.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA
On Thursday, June 18, 2020, 5:09:06 PM PDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
Method #5 - plastic self adhesive tape from an electronic label maker - easier to apply than the bare metal foil and can be stretched a little if necessary. Easily cut into shapes (gusset plates etc) this is super easy and the rivets below show through, make it look appropriately riveted!
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Re: PRR X31A patch panels
Tony Thompson
On some X29 models, I applied strips of 0.005-inch styrene. It's exaggerated but does show up.
Tony Thompson
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Re: PRR X31A facts you want to know
Andy Cool! I'd never heard of this before. I see 5" x 36" sheets for sale for $2.99 - from an actual hobby shop! :-D https://www.centralhobbies.com/cat4.php?cat=2&subcat=13&sub2cat=7
On 6/18/2020 8:47 PM, Andy Carlson wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: PRR X31A facts you want to know
Bill Welch
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 08:14 PM, Brian Carlson wrote:
Before anybody gets really annoyed at Bruce for number two. He meant archer panel line decals. Archer also makes weld line decals which are meant for armor guys and you definitely don’t want to use In HO scale 2) archer weld line decals (Bill W's favorite way right now)
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
NO, the Decals Bruce is referring are Archer's Aircraft Panel Lines that I use to represent weld lines. They are printed in three sizes and I use the narrowest set. Here are photos showing their application on a Sunshine X28A.
Bill Welch
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PRR X31A facts you want to know
Andy Carlson
Or equally useful, the very thin polymer peel & stick product, Monokote Trim. An RC item which I am constantly finding plenty of uses for it. Sticks well and holds rivet impressions. It is available in dozens of different colors, so a patch color choice may eliminate paint touch-up. About 3 x 30 inches and less than $7. -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
On Thursday, June 18, 2020, 5:09:06 PM PDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
Method #5 - plastic self adhesive tape from an electronic label maker - easier to apply than the bare metal foil and can be stretched a little if necessary. Easily cut into shapes (gusset plates etc) this is super easy and the rivets below show through, make it look appropriately riveted!
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Re: What Is This Fellow Doing?
David,
Look again, the journal lids are open, not missing. That's because this is a hump and journals were oiled as the car passed over the hump.
He is applying a route card to the route card tack board.
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of David Soderblom <drs@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 7:25 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] What Is This Fellow Doing? Given that a journal is clearly missing its lid, I’d say he’s tacking a Bad Order card to get that fixed.
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Re: Photo: Tank Trailers On Flat Cars
Mont Switzer
Schuyler,
I have a model of a brand new "cargo tank" loaded TOFC for delivery to local dealer. Photos show many new tanks delivered by rail.
Mont
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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From: "Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io" <schuyler.larrabee@...>
Date: 6/18/20 1:52 PM (GMT-04:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Tank Trailers On Flat Cars
Mont Switzer, when will your models be ready?? A MONON flat with tank truck trailers? Obviously you MUST model this. 😊
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Photo: Tank Trailers On Flat Cars This is a link to a 1943 photo from the Missouri State Digital Collections: https://digitalcollections.missouristate.edu/digital/collection/FriscoLab/id/113/rec/722 Use the Expand box in the upper right hand corner of the photo to enlarge it and scroll to enlarger it further. This is a very clear photo. Nice detail of the blocking and cables. And here is an excellent Bruce Smith model, courtesy of the Prototype Railroad Topics blog: Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Photo: Boxed Automobiles On Flatcars
Richard Townsend
Could B&W be the receiving company? Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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From: Eric Hansmann <eric@...> To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Sent: Thu, Jun 18, 2020 4:22 pm Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxed Automobiles On Flatcars AMC wasn’t a company until 1954. The lead flat car is of a series that disappeared from the ORER in 1930. The photo might be from the AMC archives.
But why are the crates stenciled B&W and not NASH?
The first sentence under the picture reads: “Boxcars loaded with Nash or AMC cars to be shipped by railroad, ending up in Australia and New Zealand. Each boxcar is stamped with its destination.”
The first crate is labeled Auckland, NZ, the third one looks like Masterton, also NZ and the second looks like Sydney, Aus.
Joe Melhorn
Sahuarita, AZ
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Re: What Is This Fellow Doing?
David Soderblom
Given that a journal is clearly missing its lid, I’d say he’s tacking a Bad Order card to get that fixed.
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Re: PRR X31A facts you want to know
Before anybody gets really annoyed at Bruce for number two. He meant archer panel line decals. Archer also makes weld line decals which are meant for armor guys and you definitely don’t want to use In HO scale
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Brian J. Carlson
On Jun 18, 2020, at 7:57 PM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
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Re: PRR X31A facts you want to know
Method #5 - plastic self adhesive tape from an electronic label maker - easier to apply than the bare metal foil and can be stretched a little if necessary. Easily cut into shapes (gusset plates etc)
On 6/18/2020 7:57 PM, Bruce Smith wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: PRR X31A facts you want to know
Mel,
There are at least 4 approaches that I know of:
1) Clear (thick) decal film
2) archer weld line decals (Bill W's favorite way right now)
3) etched metal appliques (I've done this. It's not easy but has a nice effect)
4) Bare metal foil (or equivalent) - like decal film, this is super easy and the rivets below show through, make it look appropriately riveted!
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of mel perry <clipper841@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:53 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR X31A facts you want to know clear decal film, as a representation?
mel perry
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 4:47 PM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
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Re: PRR X31A facts you want to know
mel perry
clear decal film, as a representation? mel perry
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 4:47 PM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
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