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CN on the CV in less than warmer times

Andy Carlson
 

Maybe on the central Vermont with lots of CN stuff.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



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Re: D&LW 55161 riveted 12-panel box car

Schuyler Larrabee
 

October ’67 ORER says so, yes

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bud Rindfleisch
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 3:01 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] D&LW 55161 riveted 12-panel box car

 

Andy,

     Is this DL&W box a 10' 6" IH car? Sure looks it.

       Bud Rindfleisch


Re: D&LW 55161 riveted 12-panel box car

Brian Carlson
 

I’ve done it there, Pittsburgh and online.  

Brian J. Carlson 

On Jun 30, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Bud Rindfleisch <BlackDiamondRR@...> wrote:


Brian,
     What clinic? Cocoa Beach? I've never been.
        Bud Rindfleisch


Re: D&LW 55161 riveted 12-panel box car

Bud Rindfleisch
 

Brian,
     What clinic? Cocoa Beach? I've never been.
        Bud Rindfleisch


Re: D&LW 55161 riveted 12-panel box car

Bud Rindfleisch
 

Andy,
    After I sent my message I remembered I have the Morning Sun Erie/DL&W color book with quite a few views of boxcars, I could have looked it up in there, duh!
    Bud Rindfleisch


Re: Tangent Tank Car Paint Removal

Daniel A. Mitchell
 

Just one word of warning … There’s no such chemical as “Lacquer Thinner”.

What’s sold under that generic name is any blend of acetone or other ketones, alcohols (many different), petroleum distillates like tolueneacetates, ethers, plus who knows what. Every brand is DIFFERENT.  Some “lacquer thinners” curdle some lacquers causing the entire mess to turn to Jello. Their relative effects on various model paints is anyone’s guess. Many lacquer thinners will violently attack some plastics like styrene.

USE CARE, and experiment first on some hidden or unimportant area.

Dan Mitchell
==========

On Jun 30, 2020, at 10:10 AM, Mont Switzer <MSwitzer@...> wrote:

Allen,
 
I learned the hard way just last evening that lacquer thinner will remove the Tangent lettering almost immediately with little effect on the bae paint color.
 
Mont
 
Montford L. Switzer
(765) 836-2914
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Allen Cain
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 7:46 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Tangent Tank Car Paint Removal
 
First off, if this is the wrong list for this please let me know and any suggestions for another list woU\Uld be appreciated.
 
I am seeking advice on the removal of the paint/ink that Tangent Scale Models applies to their GATX 1948+ tank cars and their Cosden 3 Dome tank cars.
 
Bought some ICG Decals and plan to strip and renumber them.
 
Thanks,
 
Allen Cain



Re: Train-Master vs. Train-Miniature

Jack Mullen
 

A 2004 article in the Billings Gazette, about the then-impending demise of Champion, included this history:

 "He bought the Champion company in 1963 from Max Gray, who had moved it to California after starting it in Ohio in 1940."


The full article is well worth reading:
https://billingsgazette.com/business/end-of-line-near-for-model-decal-company/article_ce5c4878-6511-54b2-9940-d43d64960f45.html

I seem to remember having packs of older Champ decals with a California address. Probably still have some around somewhere.

Jack Mullen


Re: Train-Master vs. Train-Miniature

Benjamin Hom
 

Bill Smith asked:
"Is there even a ‘History of the American Model Railroad Industry’ web site?"

White River Productions'' HO Collector Magazine website here:


Ben Hom



Re: Train-Master vs. Train-Miniature

erieblt2
 

I really appreciate this string. It’s not exactly what we ‘should’ talk about, but it’s fascinating history. It will be lost if not put out before it’s lost. I appreciate your patience. Is there even a ‘History of the American Model Railroad Industry’ web site? Bill S


On Jun 30, 2020, at 10:21 AM, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:


Richard Bale wrote:

Globe was originated by Hal Prendergast and purchased by Athearn

       This conflicts with what was in Model Railroader in the late 1940s. It stated that Globe was founded in 1942 by Frank Taylor, who had been editor of MR, joined by well-known O scale modeler and scratch builder Carl Traub. The company began in Milwaukee, located at 4224 Lincoln, before moving to Chicago about 1950. Athearn bought them in July 1951.
        I know of no connection with Hal Prendergast, unless he facilitated the Athearn purchase.

Tony Thompson




correcting my mistake D&LW 55161 riveted 12-panel box car

Andy Carlson
 


Boy, this is embarrassing! I quickly responded to the D&LW car question and made my reply directed instead at the EJ&E car (which is a 10'0" car) by error.

The Lackawanna car is certainly a 10'6" car. Sorry for the error.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA
_._,_._,_


Re: D&LW 55161 riveted 12-panel box car

Brian Carlson
 

Yes.  You need to sit in on my clinic. :)

Brian J. Carlson 

On Jun 30, 2020, at 3:01 PM, Bud Rindfleisch <BlackDiamondRR@...> wrote:


Andy,
     Is this DL&W box a 10' 6" IH car? Sure looks it.
       Bud Rindfleisch


D&LW 55161 riveted 12-panel box car

Andy Carlson
 

No, actually this is a 10'0" IH car. which is why Steve Hoxie's model has to cover the door opening discrepancies with the door partially ajar. The Intermountain 12-panel is a 6' wide door design.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 12:01:38 PM PDT, Bud Rindfleisch <blackdiamondrr@...> wrote:


Andy,
     Is this DL&W box a 10' 6" IH car? Sure looks it.
       Bud Rindfleisch


Re: D&LW 55161 riveted 12-panel box car

Bud Rindfleisch
 

Andy,
     Is this DL&W box a 10' 6" IH car? Sure looks it.
       Bud Rindfleisch


Re: My correction to the latest IMRC PFE Reefers

Gary Roe
 

Agreed!

Not only saved; but printed out to store with the cars until such time as it is needed.

Thanks Steve!

gary roe
quincy, illinois



On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 11:11:52 AM CDT, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:


Thanks, Steve, for providing this great service to your fellow modelers.  Saved for future use!

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:07 AM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>; main@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] My correction to the latest IMRC PFE Reefers

 

I was excited to get one of the PFE R-30-18 models this spring, but the excitement was tempered when many noted the strange way the brake components were assembled.  After some discussions with Dick Harley and others, I documented my changes in a short presentation that is attached.

 

Be sure to check out Dick’s updated web pages on PFE reefers.  He has added a lot to his site at he pondered these cars.

 

https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/PFETrainPhotos/PFE-Wood-Ice-Reefers/Bettendorf-vs-Built-Up/

 

Steve Hile


Re: Train-Master vs. Train-Miniature

Tony Thompson
 

Richard Bale wrote:

Globe was originated by Hal Prendergast and purchased by Athearn

       This conflicts with what was in Model Railroader in the late 1940s. It stated that Globe was founded in 1942 by Frank Taylor, who had been editor of MR, joined by well-known O scale modeler and scratch builder Carl Traub. The company began in Milwaukee, located at 4224 Lincoln, before moving to Chicago about 1950. Athearn bought them in July 1951.
        I know of no connection with Hal Prendergast, unless he facilitated the Athearn purchase.

Tony Thompson




Re: My correction to the latest IMRC PFE Reefers

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thanks, Steve, for providing this great service to your fellow modelers.  Saved for future use!

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:07 AM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>; main@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] My correction to the latest IMRC PFE Reefers

 

I was excited to get one of the PFE R-30-18 models this spring, but the excitement was tempered when many noted the strange way the brake components were assembled.  After some discussions with Dick Harley and others, I documented my changes in a short presentation that is attached.

 

Be sure to check out Dick’s updated web pages on PFE reefers.  He has added a lot to his site at he pondered these cars.

 

https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/PFETrainPhotos/PFE-Wood-Ice-Reefers/Bettendorf-vs-Built-Up/

 

Steve Hile


Re: Picture help?

Ray Hutchison
 

 another photo of the Columbus Hocking Valley and Toledo... 

Screen shot 2020-06-30 at 9.37.43 AM.png


On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 12:27 AM Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:

Hi Doug,

 

From Eric Neubauer’s early Pullman builder’s document, I see that OWC&I 2000-2199 were built by Pullman under lot C1466 in 1887, probably 33 feet long.

 

It also appears that the Ohio and Western Coal and Iron was one of those Gilded Age companies that lived and died fairly quickly based on financial shenanigans.  I see mention of the Columbus Hocking Valley and Toledo in some of the articles and they may have been the inheritors of OWC&I 2000-2199.

 

Hope this is helpful.

 

Regards,

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 11:24 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Picture help?

 

This morning I was asked if I had a photo or any information on the gon to the right in this photo. It appears to be lettered for the Ohio & Western Coal & Iron Co. Which was a company registered in New York state, and which failed in 1899 after some lawsuits.

 

Can anyone help?

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

 


Re: Tangent Tank Car Paint Removal

Mont Switzer
 

Allen,

 

I learned the hard way just last evening that lacquer thinner will remove the Tangent lettering almost immediately with little effect on the bae paint color.

 

Mont

 

Montford L. Switzer

mswitzer@...

(765) 836-2914

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Allen Cain
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 7:46 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Tangent Tank Car Paint Removal

 

First off, if this is the wrong list for this please let me know and any suggestions for another list woU\Uld be appreciated.

 

I am seeking advice on the removal of the paint/ink that Tangent Scale Models applies to their GATX 1948+ tank cars and their Cosden 3 Dome tank cars.

 

Bought some ICG Decals and plan to strip and renumber them.

 

Thanks,

 

Allen Cain


My correction to the latest IMRC PFE Reefers

Steve and Barb Hile
 

I was excited to get one of the PFE R-30-18 models this spring, but the excitement was tempered when many noted the strange way the brake components were assembled.  After some discussions with Dick Harley and others, I documented my changes in a short presentation that is attached.

 

Be sure to check out Dick’s updated web pages on PFE reefers.  He has added a lot to his site at he pondered these cars.

 

https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/PFETrainPhotos/PFE-Wood-Ice-Reefers/Bettendorf-vs-Built-Up/

 

Steve Hile


Re: Train-Master vs. Train-Miniature

Dave Lawler
 

Good day all,

 

I have several very old packs of Champ Decals  that were:

“Mfd. By Champion Model Co. Cleveland 2, Ohio”

Here’s where it was founded.

 

Best regards,

David Lawler

 

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