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Re: Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track

 

This car looks to be a DD car, see door tracks.

My surmise would be that it is a chain tube.

Dan Smith


Re: Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track

Bruce Smith
 

I'll buy that!
Bruce


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Eric Hansmann <eric@...>
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 12:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track
 
I will guess it’s a tube for chains used for auto carrying. Note the door track extending left from the car center. 

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jul 5, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:

Folks,

What is the piece of hardware, just inside the wheel, that appears to be strapped to the center sill?

Regards,
Bruce 
Bruce Smith


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Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 12:38 PM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track
 

Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track

A 1938 photo from the Hennepin County Library:

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/27759/rec/399

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Excellent detail on unidentified boxcar.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track

Eric Hansmann
 

I will guess it’s a tube for chains used for auto carrying. Note the door track extending left from the car center. 

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jul 5, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:

Folks,

What is the piece of hardware, just inside the wheel, that appears to be strapped to the center sill?

Regards,
Bruce 
Bruce Smith


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track
 

Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track

A 1938 photo from the Hennepin County Library:

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/27759/rec/399

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Excellent detail on unidentified boxcar.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track

Bruce Smith
 

Folks,

What is the piece of hardware, just inside the wheel, that appears to be strapped to the center sill?

Regards,
Bruce 
Bruce Smith


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track
 

Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track

A 1938 photo from the Hennepin County Library:

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/27759/rec/399

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Excellent detail on unidentified boxcar.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Export Tractor Load On Rock Island Flatcar

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Export Tractor Load On Rock Island Flatcar

An undated photo from the Hennepin County Library:

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/10033/rec/23

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Tractors from Minneapolis-Moline Power Implement Company.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Export Tractor Load

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Export Tractor Load

An undated photo from the Hennepin County Library:

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/10358/rec/27

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Tractors from Minneapolis-Moline Power Implement Company.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track

A 1938 photo from the Hennepin County Library:

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/27759/rec/399

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Excellent detail on unidentified boxcar.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photos: Milwaukee Road Boxcar 713481

Bob Chaparro
 

Photos: Milwaukee Road Boxcar 713481

Two 1934 photos from the Hennepin County Library:

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/49238/rec/184

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/49368/rec/187

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Boxcars At Flour Mill

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Boxcars At Flour Mill

A 1905 photo from the Hennepin County Library:

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/51159/rec/95

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge the photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


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From: Bill Welch <fgexbill@...>
Date: 6/28/20 7:29 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photos: PFE 36624 (R-40-2)

Who owns the tooling for the ex-Red Caboose PRR style trucks?

Bill Welch


Re: Photo: St.L.K.&NW Boxcar At Brick Works

William Hirt
 

St. Louis Keokuk & North Western. The "K" Line moniker was used by the CB&Q after it acquired the StLK&NW and is still used by BNSF today for the route from Burlington, Iowa, to St. Louis.

The Burlington Route Historical Society within the last month just released an entire bulletin about Keokuk. There are several pages of history and discussion of the StLK&NW.

Bill Hirt

On 7/4/2020 6:29 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote:

Photo: St.L.K.&NW Boxcar At Brick Works

A circa late 1890 to early 1900s photo from the Iowa University Libraries:

https://digital.lib.uiowa.edu/islandora/object/ui%3Ajohncalvin_261

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Interesting end detail on the boxcar.

The car was part of the Burlington system. I'm guessing the reporting marks stood for St. Louis, Kansas & North Western.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



Re: B&O Tank Car Explosion

 

Thank you, Garth. While I can't identify the location, someone with a good eye for B&O perhaps can. A clue - there is a telltale and a tunnel portal visible in the distance. Note the curvature of the tracks and the shape of the cut. Another thought about the car; look at the slope to the right. It appears that either the car fell down the hill or perhaps impacted the hill after being thrown from somewhere, and then came to rest in the base of the cut. Judging from the debris, perhaps it broke through a retaining wall, pushing the timbers and dirt/stone into the cut. Not sure. An interesting mystery!
-- 
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD


Re: Jerry Hamsmith kits

nyc3001 .
 

Thanks guys. I'm glad to know the info about Jerry's kits as opposed to the Sunshine kits.


Re: Photo: St.L.K.&NW Boxcar At Brick Works

Gary Roe
 

Bob,

That is St. Louis, Keokuk & Northwestern.

gary roe
quincy, illinois



On Saturday, July 4, 2020, 6:29:10 PM CDT, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Photo: St.L.K.&NW Boxcar At Brick Works

A circa late 1890 to early 1900s photo from the Iowa University Libraries:

https://digital.lib.uiowa.edu/islandora/object/ui%3Ajohncalvin_261

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Interesting end detail on the boxcar.

The car was part of the Burlington system. I'm guessing the reporting marks stood for St. Louis, Kansas & North Western.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: St.L.K.&NW Boxcar At Brick Works

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: St.L.K.&NW Boxcar At Brick Works

A circa late 1890 to early 1900s photo from the Iowa University Libraries:

https://digital.lib.uiowa.edu/islandora/object/ui%3Ajohncalvin_261

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Interesting end detail on the boxcar.

The car was part of the Burlington system. I'm guessing the reporting marks stood for St. Louis, Kansas & North Western.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: CB&Q Hopper Cars

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: CB&Q Hopper Cars

A 1956 photo from the Iowa University Libraries taken at Flagler, Iowa:

https://digital.lib.uiowa.edu/islandora/object/ui%3Avandermaaseaj_1435

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Photo is a little grainy.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: What kind of Steam Era Freight Car is used to ship...

Jared Harper
 

For years Georgia was the largest producer of Kaolin.

Jared Harper
Athens, GA




Re: What kind of Steam Era Freight Car is used to ship...

Mont Switzer
 

Jeff,

 

Let me qualify this response.  I lived near Akron for over 10 years and was involved in handling outbound rubber products from all "tire shops," where tires were "built."  This was in the 1970's.

 

Outbound tires by the carload probably went to vehicle manufacturers and distribution warehouses.  Shipments of tires, cartons of tubes, and other boxed accessories were handled as LCL in boxcars and LTL in trucks.    

 

Inbound bales of raw rubber would have been received in boxcars from Akron, most likely from roads that served Akron (AC&Y, B&O, ERIE, PRR).  The AC&Y connected with the NYC, NKP and DT&I among others.  All loading was done by hand as tire handling had yet to be automated.

 

You are right about carbon black being handled in covered hoppers, but in your era some carbon black was still shipped in bags loaded in boxcars.  It depends on the process using the carbon black at the time.

 

In Akron a lot of coal was received for the plant boilers. 

 

There were always lots of chemical tank cars around.  Although I'm sure how many of them served the chemical industry that was developed by the rubber companies, the shops probably consumed some chemicals in converting raw rubber to tires and other rubber products.

 

Akron always smelled like rubber, but nowadays no tires are being built in Akron and therefore no distinctive rubber smell.

 

Mont Switzer 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] on behalf of Aley, Jeff A [Jeff.A.Aley@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2020 1:22 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] What kind of Steam Era Freight Car is used to ship...

Hi Folks,

 

               The Goodyear tire plant in Topeka, KS (and other tire factories) needed to receive raw materials.  For some, the method of transport is obvious to me (bales of rubber arrived in box cars; carbon black granules arrived in covered hoppers).  For others, I am not so sure.

 

They used kaolin (for Al2O3).  Would this be handled as a slurry in tank cars or was it in bags or drums in box cars?  I’m guessing the latter, but… ?

 

They used steel wire for the “bead” of the tire.  Would this be in box cars, or giant spools on flat cars / gons?  As you can tell, I’m pretty ignorant about this.

 

               FWIW, the factory produced about 10 boxcars of tires per day in the steam era.

 

Thanks,

 

-Jeff

 

 

 

 

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