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Re: An image of ACL ventilated boxcars

Ray Hutchison
 

very nice model.  looking at a number of early photographs, what would determine whether the door would open to the right (which we think of as being correct) or opened to the left as shown here)?


On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 8:31 PM David Wiggs <bigwiggs@...> wrote:
Here's a shot on my 2-rail O-Scale RR of an ACL watermelon car.
 
davo in Orlando


Re: An image of ACL ventilated boxcars

David Wiggs
 

Here's a shot on my 2-rail O-Scale RR of an ACL watermelon car.
 
davo in Orlando


Re: Pullman Standard cushioned underframe question for PS-1 cars

George Eichelberger
 

That didn't work, I'll try to upload the drawing here...

Ike


Re: Pullman Standard cushioned underframe question for PS-1 cars

George Eichelberger
 

Although the Southern did not buy any, P-S provided information on their 40’ CUF cars, including the tests using one or two WP cars (the first with CUF?). Their first load was a shipment of boxed wine from CA to the east coast. The P-S/WP report on the trip was very successful with little or no damage to the shipment.

SF-1485 (from P-S dwg 532-F-56-A) dated 4-3-59, shows the CUF underframe arrangement.

Ike

 


Various scenes showing multiple freight cars in Florida

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Loading boxcars in Florida circa 1950

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Loading boxcars in Florida circa 1950
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


a string of SAL stock cars

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Image of a string of SAL stock cars, SAL 7904 closest to camera, in 1940
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


SAL 28812 - a ventilated box

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Image of SAL 28812 - a ventilated box - in 1951
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


early Union Tank Line car

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
A pretty early Union Tank Line car (lettered UTL) in Florida
 
 
Wish we had a clearer view of the tank car!
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 


Nice view of L&N twin hoppers

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Nice view of L&N 86920 (looks to me to be a USRA design twin hopper) and L&N 85058 (a twin hopper of different design) in 1942.
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


L&N 25972 composite gon in Jacksonville FL

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Image of L&N 25972 composite gon in Jacksonville FL
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: Pullman Standard cushioned underframe question for PS-1 cars

Brent Greer
 

Thanks Ed! (I was afraid that this would end up being something too challenging for me to model - looks like that might be the case here)

I will see if I have the issue of Mainline Modeler in my back issue library collection. 

 Brent

Dr. J. Brent Greer


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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Pullman Standard cushioned underframe question for PS-1 cars
 


On Jul 7, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Brent Greer <studegator@...> wrote:

Friend Jim Brewer recently shared some information on various lots of PS-1 boxcars ordered by the Norfolk and Western.  One of these was for a group of only 5 cars, identified in the data as PS Lot 8160D  for five cars with the cushioned under frames.  The N&W car number series is 53995-53999 and the only information on the diagram is "sliding sill 10" rubber cushion."   My question for the knowledgeable experts in our group is "What type of cushioned under frames were these?"   Did PS have their own proprietary system, or was this something like a Duryea under frame?   And of course, I am interested in how best to model this under frame.


Brent,
It was a Pullman-Standard proprietary design in which 100 cars were built in 2-54 & sold to 8 different railroads (lots 8160A thru H). A good source is Jim Kinkaid’s article in January 2002 Mainline Modeler. Included is a schematic drawing to illustrate how it functions.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: Photo: V-1 Weapon On MP Flat Car 8171

Matthew Hurst
 

There is an 88mm flak gun behind it to. 

Awesome. 

Matthew Hurst 
PRRT&HS #6799
PRRT&HS modeling committee 


On Jul 7, 2020, at 1:40 PM, Richard Wilkens <railsnw123@...> wrote:

As this is a photo from a newspaper archives that doctoring is typical for newspapers of that period. This gave a stronger contrast to the photos when printed. You will see the edges of the truck side frame has been done as well as the missile cradle.

Richard Wilkens


Re: Shipping sugar cane by rail...

Randy Hees
 

There were a number of sugar cane car designs... some dump, some unload via a crane and grapple.  Many were narrow gauge. They were built by a number of builders... including Magor, Brill, and lots of over seas providers like Ducaville.  Car designs used seem to follow regional lines... so the cars in Florida are likely all similar while those in Cuba or Hawaii or Australia will look different.

Randy Hees


Re: Pullman Standard cushioned underframe question for PS-1 cars

Ed Hawkins
 



On Jul 7, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Brent Greer <studegator@...> wrote:

Friend Jim Brewer recently shared some information on various lots of PS-1 boxcars ordered by the Norfolk and Western.  One of these was for a group of only 5 cars, identified in the data as PS Lot 8160D  for five cars with the cushioned under frames.  The N&W car number series is 53995-53999 and the only information on the diagram is "sliding sill 10" rubber cushion."   My question for the knowledgeable experts in our group is "What type of cushioned under frames were these?"   Did PS have their own proprietary system, or was this something like a Duryea under frame?   And of course, I am interested in how best to model this under frame.


Brent,
It was a Pullman-Standard proprietary design in which 100 cars were built in 2-54 & sold to 8 different railroads (lots 8160A thru H). A good source is Jim Kinkaid’s article in January 2002 Mainline Modeler. Included is a schematic drawing to illustrate how it functions.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: fixing yellowed decals

John Sykes III
 

Sometimes it works and other times, it makes things worse.  Instead of yellow, it turns the decal brown.  This is an attempted fix of last resort.  Probably has to do with the formula of the lacquer in the decal backing.

-- John


Re: Pullman Standard cushioned underframe question for PS-1 cars

Tim O'Connor
 


I will guess that it's the same 10" cushioning applied to a tiny number of Western Pacific box cars (e.g. WP 1953).

These really early cushion underframes have not been documented much in the hobby literature. The cars were built
before the SP-SRI "Hydracushion" design, or the Pullman "Hydroframe", or Evans, or other cushioned underframe designs.

I modeled the WP car with an extended coupler pocket. :-)   What else is there to do when there is no drawing?

Tim O'


On 7/7/2020 5:01 PM, Brent Greer wrote:

Friend Jim Brewer recently shared some information on various lots of PS-1 boxcars ordered by the Norfolk and Western.  One of these was for a group of only 5 cars, identified in the data as PS Lot 8160D  for five cars with the cushioned under frames.  The N&W car number series is 53995-53999 and the only information on the diagram is "sliding sill 10" rubber cushion."   My question for the knowledgeable experts in our group is "What type of cushioned under frames were these?"   Did PS have their own proprietary system, or was this something like a Duryea under frame?   And of course, I am interested in how best to model this under frame.


Any and all help appreciated,

Brent


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Extreme Tank Car Modeling

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Bob;

 

Important point.  I have looked at so many wreck photos in archives, I completely understand many RRs decisions to elevate and get away from that interface.  Those photos we recently shared of people wrecking their cars/trucks into parked freight cars give us some great freight car shots, but also how dangerous the environment they worked in was/is.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

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Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Extreme Tank Car Modeling

 

There are a lot of wreck photos, some with tank cars, on the Oklahoma Historical Society website. And so many car vs. train wreck photos it's amazing that the state wasn't completely depopulated.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: fixing yellowed decals

Tim O'Connor
 


Thanks Ben, that is a GOOD tip to know. I do have a few sets of yellowed decals and I will do that to
see if it works for me.


On 7/7/2020 4:52 PM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
Tim O'Connor wrote:
"On Facebook a couple weeks ago someone posted pictures of BRASS models with slightly yellowed
decals they wanted to correct. As an experiment the person placed the model in direct sunlight and left
it in the spot for 36 hours (I assume in a window in the house) and then turned it around and did the same
for the other side of the car. His before and after pictures showed that the yellowing completely disappeared!

Have you ever heard of this before? Any theory or idea why sunshine exposure would correct the color?
The models were Overland factory painted covered hoppers."

This is a well-known tip in the scale modeler community - place yellowed decals in a Ziploc bag and tape it to a window exposed to direct sunlight.  It's probably UV that does the work.


Ben Hom


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Pullman Standard cushioned underframe question for PS-1 cars

Brent Greer
 

Friend Jim Brewer recently shared some information on various lots of PS-1 boxcars ordered by the Norfolk and Western.  One of these was for a group of only 5 cars, identified in the data as PS Lot 8160D  for five cars with the cushioned under frames.  The N&W car number series is 53995-53999 and the only information on the diagram is "sliding sill 10" rubber cushion."   My question for the knowledgeable experts in our group is "What type of cushioned under frames were these?"   Did PS have their own proprietary system, or was this something like a Duryea under frame?   And of course, I am interested in how best to model this under frame.


Any and all help appreciated,

Brent 

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