Re: An image of ACL ventilated boxcars
Ray Hutchison
very nice model. looking at a number of early photographs, what would determine whether the door would open to the right (which we think of as being correct) or opened to the left as shown here)?
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 8:31 PM David Wiggs <bigwiggs@...> wrote:
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Re: An image of ACL ventilated boxcars
David Wiggs
Here's a shot on
my 2-rail O-Scale RR of an ACL watermelon car.
davo in
Orlando
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Re: Pullman Standard cushioned underframe question for PS-1 cars
George Eichelberger
That didn't work, I'll try to upload the drawing here...
Ike
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Re: Pullman Standard cushioned underframe question for PS-1 cars
George Eichelberger
Although the Southern did not buy any, P-S provided information on their 40’ CUF cars, including the tests using one or two WP cars (the first with CUF?). Their first load was a shipment of boxed wine from CA to the east coast. The P-S/WP report on the trip was very successful with little or no damage to the shipment.
SF-1485 (from P-S dwg 532-F-56-A) dated 4-3-59, shows the CUF underframe arrangement. Ike
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Various scenes showing multiple freight cars in Florida
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
Various scenes showing multiple freight cars in
Florida, mostly the Tampa area...
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Loading boxcars in Florida circa 1950
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
Loading boxcars in Florida circa 1950
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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a string of SAL stock cars
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
Image of a string of SAL stock cars, SAL 7904 closest to camera, in 1940
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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SAL 28812 - a ventilated box
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
Image of SAL 28812 - a ventilated box
- in 1951
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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early Union Tank Line car
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
A pretty early Union Tank Line car (lettered UTL)
in Florida
Wish we had a clearer view of the tank
car!
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Nice view of L&N twin hoppers
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
Nice view of L&N
86920 (looks to me to be a USRA design twin hopper) and L&N 85058 (a twin
hopper of different design) in 1942.
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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L&N 25972 composite gon in Jacksonville FL
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
Image of L&N 25972 composite gon in
Jacksonville FL
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: Pullman Standard cushioned underframe question for PS-1 cars
Brent Greer
Thanks Ed! (I was afraid that this would end up being something too challenging for me to model - looks like that might be the case here)
I will see if I have the issue of Mainline Modeler in my back issue library collection.
Brent
Dr. J. Brent Greer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:46 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Pullman Standard cushioned underframe question for PS-1 cars
It was a Pullman-Standard proprietary design in which 100 cars were built in 2-54 & sold to 8 different railroads (lots 8160A thru H). A good source is Jim Kinkaid’s article in January 2002 Mainline Modeler. Included is a schematic drawing to
illustrate how it functions.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins
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Re: Photo: V-1 Weapon On MP Flat Car 8171
Matthew Hurst
There is an 88mm flak gun behind it to.
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Awesome. Matthew Hurst PRRT&HS #6799 PRRT&HS modeling committee
On Jul 7, 2020, at 1:40 PM, Richard Wilkens <railsnw123@...> wrote:
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Re: Shipping sugar cane by rail...
Randy Hees
There were a number of sugar cane car designs... some dump, some unload via a crane and grapple. Many were narrow gauge. They were built by a number of builders... including Magor, Brill, and lots of over seas providers like Ducaville. Car designs used seem to follow regional lines... so the cars in Florida are likely all similar while those in Cuba or Hawaii or Australia will look different.
Randy Hees
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Re: Pullman Standard cushioned underframe question for PS-1 cars
Ed Hawkins
It was a Pullman-Standard proprietary design in which 100 cars were built in 2-54 & sold to 8 different railroads (lots 8160A thru H). A good source is Jim Kinkaid’s article in January 2002 Mainline Modeler. Included is a schematic drawing to illustrate how it functions. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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Re: fixing yellowed decals
Sometimes it works and other times, it makes things worse. Instead of yellow, it turns the decal brown. This is an attempted fix of last resort. Probably has to do with the formula of the lacquer in the decal backing.
-- John
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Re: Pullman Standard cushioned underframe question for PS-1 cars
I will guess that it's the same 10" cushioning applied to a tiny number of Western Pacific box cars (e.g. WP 1953). These really early cushion underframes have not been documented much in the hobby literature. The cars were built before the SP-SRI "Hydracushion" design, or the Pullman "Hydroframe", or Evans, or other cushioned underframe designs. I modeled the WP car with an extended coupler pocket. :-) What else is there to do when there is no drawing? Tim O'
On 7/7/2020 5:01 PM, Brent Greer wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Extreme Tank Car Modeling
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Bob;
Important point. I have looked at so many wreck photos in archives, I completely understand many RRs decisions to elevate and get away from that interface. Those photos we recently shared of people wrecking their cars/trucks into parked freight cars give us some great freight car shots, but also how dangerous the environment they worked in was/is.
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 4:38 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Extreme Tank Car Modeling
There are a lot of wreck photos, some with tank cars, on the Oklahoma Historical Society website. And so many car vs. train wreck photos it's amazing that the state wasn't completely depopulated.
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Re: fixing yellowed decals
Thanks Ben, that is a GOOD tip to know. I do have a few sets of yellowed decals and I will do that to see if it works for me.
On 7/7/2020 4:52 PM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Pullman Standard cushioned underframe question for PS-1 cars
Brent Greer
Friend Jim Brewer recently shared some information on various lots of PS-1 boxcars ordered by the Norfolk and Western. One of these was for a group of only 5 cars, identified in the data as PS Lot 8160D for five cars with the cushioned under frames. The N&W car number series is 53995-53999 and the only information on the diagram is "sliding sill 10" rubber cushion." My question for the knowledgeable experts in our group is "What type of cushioned under frames were these?" Did PS have their own proprietary system, or was this something like a Duryea under frame? And of course, I am interested in how best to model this under frame.
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