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Re: Photo Help -- DT&I Boxcar
#14300-14549
hubert mask
Is this one worth taking a look at.
Is there a current car to look at.
Hubert Mask
Mask Island Decals
On Jul 10, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Craig Wilson <agecompanyphotog@...> wrote:
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Re: Poultry cars : Bachmann news just received
Eric Hansmann
Charlie Vlk posted this reply to the Early Rail discussion list on this Bachmann model.
As I said, the car body is the standard Bachmann 40 Ft steel box car. I wouldn’t be surprised if it is the same mold or started life as the Athearn copy that Kader made for Mantua as their “Crown” line in the 1960s that were sold as carded RTR cars. The printing almost makes a convincing car though….in the catalog. Charlie Vlk
IMO, this model might prevent another manufacture from producing a model with prototype fidelity. Other than the screening, there is little about the Bachmann model that reflects the prototype poultry cars.
Oh, it has wheels. I forgot the prototype poultry cars ran on wheels.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Enzo Fortuna
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 10:40 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Poultry cars : Bachmann news just received
Just read a mail news from Bachmann (I've buy some spare parts in the past..and this entitled me to receive this, sorry :)
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Re: Photo Help -- DT&I Boxcar
#14300-14549
Craig Wilson
Nice . . . photos in the "original" paint scheme are fairly rare. Not long after this 1956 date the DT&I began painting its cars in the scheme with the compass herald and "We have the CONNECTIONS" slogan. The weathering is interesting too. The DT&I shipped a lot of (bagged) clay out of Ohio and this car certainly looks like it might have been in this service. Craig Wilson
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Re: Coupler Mounting Screws
Schuyler Larrabee
I keep running into a difficulty of the draft gear box wanting to rotate if the screw isn’t really TIGHT, which can be obviated by making sure there is a continuous contact between the back end of the box and the center sill, or, of course, by some adhesive. I really prefer the very flat headed screws I mentioned before as it reduces the side profile of the screw head. They look something like this: But have an even flatter head When I got the dozens I have, they were only available with the slotted head. I see now that there are some which are cross-headed screws.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 10:13 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Coupler Mounting Screws
Hi List Members,
It is exactly for this reason that I prefer brass screws - they are relatively easy to cut to a custom length (much easier than steel screws), but since they are metal they are stronger than plastic screws
Claus Schlunnd
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Poultry cars : Bachmann news just received
Enzo Fortuna
Just read a mail news from Bachmann (I've buy some spare parts in the past..and this entitled me to receive this, sorry :)
He stated that a NEW car body was released : https://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=258_324_1132&products_id=7133 https://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=&products_id=7136&zenid=fm74shvv6ai8u6lp58bdmh18c1 https://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=&products_id=7135&zenid=fm74shvv6ai8u6lp58bdmh18c1 https://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=&products_id=7136&zenid=fm74shvv6ai8u6lp58bdmh18c1 In HO only (so.. not for me) At your risk ? Cheers from Italy Enzo Fortuna
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Re: An image of ACL ventilated boxcars
David Wiggs
Good info.
I could find nothing on it.
davo in
Orlando
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Re: An image of ACL ventilated boxcars
David Wiggs
I thought perhaps
they changed from yellow to red when they changed from Atlantic Coast Despatch
to Atlantic Coast Line on the cars, but I've got color pictures of ACD cars in
yellow and red. Also, could find no mention of the color change in any of
my books on ACL.
davo in
Orlando
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Re: About match-making (so to speak)
vapeurchapelon
So true, Tim. Unfortunately. And don't forget the destruction of habitat and the impact to the fauna before the excessive and thoughtless one-time usage of the wood (and other things). Usually this has always been glorified to civilization out of the wilderness...
A worldwide problem, and still current.
By all the greatness and fascination of the steam train era and lots of other technical things at that time - this was also the era because of which words like ecology or environmental protection have been invented.
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Juli 2020 um 16:55 Uhr
Von: "Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@...> An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] About match-making (so to speak) It's too horrible to contemplate how much fabulous old growth timber was wantonly destroyed. Ugh. Think of all the old retired freight cars that were simply BURNED in the open to recover the steel. Millions of freight cars! Compare to the recovery of salt-infused timber from the SP's Salt Lake trestle that was sold for its beauty in the 1980's or 1990's. When did paper matchbooks first appear by the way? Tim O' On 7/9/2020 1:40 PM, David Soderblom wrote: About matches: When Giant Sequoias were being logged ca. 1900 their enormous trunks were used for matches. -- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Help with car ID
Eric Hansmann
The car is one of 300 ventilated boxcars listed by the New Orleans Great Northern Railway (NOGN) in the June 1909 ORER. The listing on page 207 features a triangular emblem similar to that on the freight car. https://play.google.com/books/reader?printsec=frontcover&output=reader&id=lxk6AQAAMAAJ&pg=GBS.PA207
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Lotz
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 9:45 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Help with car ID
Hi all,
I need help identifying the type and ownership of the car in this background of this image. The markings are not clear, but I thought that the logo on the side of the ca might reveal its ownership. The date of the wreck is June 10, 1909, at Aurora, Illinois.
Thanks for any help that can be provided!
Dave Lotz
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Re: Photo: Flood Damaged PFE Reefers
I think that we are looking at a retrofit. The diagonal brace, which in my experience can run either way, depending on the car and road, appears to have been applied over (or really under) the stringer. Normally, there are either diagonals, OR stringers between
the bolster and the end sill, not both. For example, the PRR X31 was built with the diagonal, but when the single stringer was replaced with double stringers, the diagonal brace was removed and the stringers ran to the end of the car.
Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...>
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 10:07 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Flood Damaged PFE Reefers Well, I agree that it’s not tight to the floor above it, but . . . it’s also appearing to be bent, and on a wrecked car, I’d be cautious about generalizing from the condition of this particular diagonal to say that all diagonals on PFE reefers are the same. Once bent, that channel has lost a good bit of its integrity.
What surprises me about this shot is that it’s much more common for diagonals to the end of the car to run from the middle of the bolster to the corner of the car, essentially at 90 degrees to this configuration.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Tony or anyone --
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Re: NP steel boxcar
Schuyler Larrabee
Then Google “Womanizing” and all will be revealed, Tim,
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 8:46 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] NP steel boxcar
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Re: Help with car ID
Dave,
The type of car is a ventilated boxcar. Ownership appears to be 4 letters, maybe ending in OGX? (where the X would indicate private ownership)
Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Dave Lotz <Dave_Lotz@...>
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 9:45 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] Help with car ID Hi all,
I need help identifying the type and ownership of the car in this background of this image. The markings are not clear, but I thought that the logo on the side of the ca might reveal its ownership. The date of the wreck is June 10, 1909, at Aurora, Illinois.
Thanks for any help that can be provided!
Dave Lotz
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Re: Photo: Flood Damaged PFE Reefers
Schuyler Larrabee
Well, I agree that it’s not tight to the floor above it, but . . . it’s also appearing to be bent, and on a wrecked car, I’d be cautious about generalizing from the condition of this particular diagonal to say that all diagonals on PFE reefers are the same. Once bent, that channel has lost a good bit of its integrity.
What surprises me about this shot is that it’s much more common for diagonals to the end of the car to run from the middle of the bolster to the corner of the car, essentially at 90 degrees to this configuration.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 8:10 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Flood Damaged PFE Reefers
Tony or anyone --
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Re: NKP 50ft double door box cars some with Viking roofs questions
Elden, some of the them were sold to the D&TS
On 7/10/2020 10:49 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: UTLX tank cars (was... something completely different)
UTLX had a business relationship with Graver Tank and Manufacturing that led to it purchasing Graver in 1957. The underframes and tanks were assembled at the UTLX facility in Whiting, Indiana.
More info in the UTLX book, if interested.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 9:43 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] UTLX tank cars (was... something completely different)
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Re: About match-making (so to speak)
It's too horrible to contemplate how much fabulous old growth timber was wantonly destroyed. Ugh. Think of all the old retired freight cars that were simply BURNED in the open to recover the steel. Millions of freight cars! Compare to the recovery of salt-infused timber from the SP's Salt Lake trestle that was sold for its beauty in the 1980's or 1990's. When did paper matchbooks first appear by the way? Tim O'
On 7/9/2020 1:40 PM, David Soderblom wrote:
About matches: When Giant Sequoias were being logged ca. 1900 their enormous trunks were used for matches. --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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NKP 50ft double door box cars some with Viking roofs questions
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Group;
I have searched in vain for my copy of the MM issue in which Bob Hundman outlined the NKP all-steel 50-foot double door box cars, in two series, one of which had Viking roofs.
Does anyone on the list know much about these cars? Were they built for automobile or auto parts service? I know NKP had plants on-line.
They look unique in several ways. Did some have racks? Were some or all originally “Damage Free” cars, or did that come later?
Do you know anything about the cars that went to P&WV? They appear to have stenciling that would indicate as assignment. Any idea to whom? See attached.
Thanks in advance!
Elden Gatwood
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Re: AC&Y 1400-1466 series gondolas
earlyrail
October 1923 ORER 1400-1463 31 cars ( Howard Garner
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Help with car ID
Hi all,
I need help identifying the type and ownership of the car in this background of this image. The markings are not clear, but I thought that the logo on the side of the ca might reveal its ownership. The date of the wreck is June 10, 1909, at Aurora, Illinois.
Thanks for any help that can be provided!
Dave Lotz
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Re: UTLX tank cars (was... something completely different)
Thank you Steve - Graver & Whiting! That's a new one on me!
On 7/9/2020 1:01 PM, Steve and Barb Hile wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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