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Re: Photo: Flood Damaged PFE Reefers

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Bruce, that works if you keep all the messages on your machine.  I often wish people commenting on a photo would include the original link, as I am sure I am not the only one looking to keep my email loading down.

 

Yes, you can go to groups.io for this list and get back to the original post, but that can be a major PITA.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Smith
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 1:03 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Flood Damaged PFE Reefers

 

Lee,

 

You can deal with this without emailing the group.

 

First, simply go the message thread on groups.io. You can do that from the link at the bottom of the message  that says "View/Reply Online". 

 

Then click on the link under the message to view all messages in the topic.

 

When you do this, you can scroll to the top message, and there you will clearly see two links in the original message. Clicking on those links will get you to the photos. 

 

If you scroll down a bit, you will see the message from Tim O'Conner specifically addressing the diagonal brace. That enlarged photo was attached to his message and can be seen right there on the web page.

 

Regards,

Bruce

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL

 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Lee Thwaits <leeoldsa@...>
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 11:43 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Flood Damaged PFE Reefers

 

I did not receive the photo of flood damaged PFE reefers.  What was the
photo?

Lee Thwaits



Re: Poultry cars : Bachmann news just received

Charlie Vlk
 

Enzo-

It is a little confusing….

By “new” my guess is that it has a unique part number.  

The screening, structural vertical and diagonal members, and chickens all seem to be printed on a standard 40’ riveted box car body (note rivets on the verticals and below them)   The door is indeed a different casting.   The giveaway that everything “poultry” except for the new door is a print job (admittedly clever) is that the “screening” and part of a “chicken” are on top of one of the grab irons.

They didn’t even use the “new” 40 Ft Box Car with separate ladders on this one, not that it would have made any difference at all.

No more posts from me on this subject as I hear the clink of keys and don’t want to be shoved into a cage…..

Charlie Vlk

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Enzo Fortuna
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 10:40 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Poultry cars : Bachmann news just received

 

Just read a mail news from Bachmann (I've buy some spare parts in the past..and this entitled me to receive this, sorry :)
He stated that a NEW car body was released :
https://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=258_324_1132&products_id=7133
https://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=&products_id=7136&zenid=fm74shvv6ai8u6lp58bdmh18c1
https://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=&products_id=7135&zenid=fm74shvv6ai8u6lp58bdmh18c1
https://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=&products_id=7136&zenid=fm74shvv6ai8u6lp58bdmh18c1

In HO only (so.. not for me) 
At your risk ?
Cheers from Italy
Enzo Fortuna


Re: Photo: Flood Damaged PFE Reefers

Bruce Smith
 

Lee,

You can deal with this without emailing the group.

First, simply go the message thread on groups.io. You can do that from the link at the bottom of the message  that says "View/Reply Online". 

Then click on the link under the message to view all messages in the topic.

When you do this, you can scroll to the top message, and there you will clearly see two links in the original message. Clicking on those links will get you to the photos. 

If you scroll down a bit, you will see the message from Tim O'Conner specifically addressing the diagonal brace. That enlarged photo was attached to his message and can be seen right there on the web page.

Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Lee Thwaits <leeoldsa@...>
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 11:43 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Flood Damaged PFE Reefers
 
I did not receive the photo of flood damaged PFE reefers.  What was the
photo?

Lee Thwaits




Re: Poultry cars : Bachmann news just received

Douglas Harding
 

Don’t waste your money. As pointed out it is a steel boxcar where the sides have been replaced with mesh. And the mesh is not even correct. Here is a photo of PPKX 5131 Stentz. Backman’s model does not come close. They didn’t even get the correct number for the car name.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 11:01 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Poultry cars : Bachmann news just received

 

Charlie Vlk posted this reply to the Early Rail discussion list on this Bachmann model.

 

As I said, the car body is the standard Bachmann 40 Ft steel box car.  I wouldn’t be surprised if it is the same mold or started life as the Athearn copy that Kader made for Mantua as their “Crown” line in the 1960s that were sold as carded RTR cars.

The printing almost makes a convincing car though….in the catalog.

Charlie Vlk

 

IMO, this model might prevent another manufacture from producing a model with prototype fidelity. Other than the screening, there is little about the Bachmann model that reflects the prototype poultry cars.

 

Oh, it has wheels. I forgot the prototype poultry cars ran on wheels.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Enzo Fortuna
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 10:40 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Poultry cars : Bachmann news just received

 

Just read a mail news from Bachmann (I've buy some spare parts in the past..and this entitled me to receive this, sorry :)
He stated that a NEW car body was released :
https://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=258_324_1132&products_id=7133
https://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=&products_id=7136&zenid=fm74shvv6ai8u6lp58bdmh18c1
https://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=&products_id=7135&zenid=fm74shvv6ai8u6lp58bdmh18c1
https://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=&products_id=7136&zenid=fm74shvv6ai8u6lp58bdmh18c1

In HO only (so.. not for me) 
At your risk ?
Cheers from Italy
Enzo Fortuna


Re: Poultry cars : Bachmann news just received

Charlie Vlk
 

Lionel 5-8575 NYC Poultry Car New York City Train Car Model in Box HO Scale OB

Actually, it turns out that Lionel had TWO versions in HO….

Inspired by their O gauge one…that had interior lighting…

Picture 1 of 6

Eric-

I doubt that any manufacturer thinking of doing a poultry car is going to be scared off by Bachmann already being in the market.   After all, Lionel already had them in the 1950s….based on an Athearn UP Stock Car or copy thereof and later their own tooling.   The O Gauge model actually had cutouts between the structural members but lacked screening overprinted on the chickens but did have a “Poultry” style door as a sliding door.

The market for such a car is likely more limited than the CN/CP steam generator car so it will take a manufacturer with a personal interest in poultry cars to make one.  In a world without production door and one half forty or fifty foot box cars, single sheathed or double, it would be a shame to see one hard tooled first.   However, who knows…we have cabooses, steam generator cars, and stock cars with sound units so anything can happen!!!

Charlie Vlk

And, it also turns out that Bachmann had a previous poultry car which in many respects was better than the new version.

 

 


Re: Photo Help -- DT&I Boxcar #14300-14549

Craig Wilson
 

When I was building the Yarmouth kits for the earlier 14000-14299 series cars (which had the proprietary ACF ends and 7-foot doors) I also built one of the 8-foot door cars (14300-14599) cars using a Branchline kit as the starting point.  The sill tabs were removed and a solid bolster-to-bolster sill was fabricated from Evergreen styrene.  Also the gusset plates were added next to the door.

The photo Tim posted clearly shows the extra vertical row of rivets in the side panels.  I used Archer Transfers rivets for these.  A photo of the completed model is attached.  I used a Yarmouth etched running board and Tahoe Barber S2 trucks.  I used the Mask Island decal set for the compass herald paint scheme with a repaint date of 1959 keeping it eligible for this list.

Craig Wilson



Re: Photo: Flood Damaged PFE Reefers

Lee Thwaits
 

I did not receive the photo of flood damaged PFE reefers.  What was the photo?

Lee Thwaits


Re: Photo: PRR Automobile Boxcar 62812

Bruce Smith
 

X31C class, flush roof, equipped with automobile loaders.

Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Automobile Boxcar 62812
 

Photo: PRR Automobile Boxcar 62812

A 1938 photo from West Virginia University:

https://wvhistoryonview.org/image/032351.jpg

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Cranberries: was Boston & Maine boxcars...Florida

Craig Wilson
 

While I was still driving intermodal containers I made numerous trips to Graceland Fruit in Frankfort Michigan.  Loads were cans of "dried sliced cranberries" being shipped to China (trucked to Elwood Illinois then BNSF to Long Beach CA for export).  Not too many cranberry bogs around Frankfort so I once asked where the cranberries came from.  All trucked in from Wisconsin, I was told.

The plant had been Pet Foods previously and regularly switched by the Ann Arbor Railroad well back into the steam era.  Photo (Neil Plagens) attached shows former AA GP35 392 (then Tuscola & Saginaw Bay) switching a PFE reefer there in 1984 shortly before the line was abandoned.  The facility looks practically the same to this day and stepping inside is like making a trip decades back in time.

Craig Wilson



Re: Photos: MPLX Tank Car 966 - Mexican Petroleum Corporation

Dave Parker
 

ACF Type 21.  I can't pin down the exact lot number, but it was built ca. 1921.

Note the KD brakes, installed on all ACF tank cars at this time.

By ~1930, it would probably have been repainted into an American Gas or Amoco scheme.
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Photo: West Virginia Shortline Railroad Gondola 1057

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: West Virginia Shortline Railroad Gondola 1057

A 1901 photo from West Virginia University:

https://wvhistoryonview.org/image/025632.jpg

Built by American Car & Foundry Company, Huntington, W. Va.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Steam Generators In Gondola Cars

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Steam Generators In Gondola Cars

An 1891 photo from West Virginia University:

https://wvhistoryonview.org/image/038827.jpg

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Dry Fork Railroad Boxcar 508

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Dry Fork Railroad Boxcar 508

A circa 1890-1910 photo from West Virginia University:

https://wvhistoryonview.org/image/036598.jpg

Just for all you Dry Fork modelers!

A little background:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/43520247?seq=1

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: About match-making (so to speak)

Schuyler Larrabee
 

1892

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 10:56 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] About match-making (so to speak)

 


It's too horrible to contemplate how much fabulous old growth timber was wantonly destroyed. Ugh.

Think of all the old retired freight cars that were simply BURNED in the open to recover the steel.
Millions of freight cars! Compare to the recovery of salt-infused timber from the SP's Salt Lake trestle
that was sold for its beauty in the 1980's or 1990's.

When did paper matchbooks first appear by the way?

Tim O'

On 7/9/2020 1:40 PM, David Soderblom wrote:

About matches:  When Giant Sequoias were being logged ca. 1900 their enormous trunks were used for matches.

David Soderblom

 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Photo: PRR Automobile Boxcar 62812

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: PRR Automobile Boxcar 62812

A 1938 photo from West Virginia University:

https://wvhistoryonview.org/image/032351.jpg

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Seaboard Automobile Boxcar 9006

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Seaboard Automobile Boxcar 9006

A 1938 photo from West Virginia University:

https://wvhistoryonview.org/image/032350.jpg

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Norfolk & Western Boxcar 65216

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Norfolk & Western Boxcar 65216

An undated photo from West Virginia University:

https://wvhistoryonview.org/image/025587.jpg

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photos: MPLX Tank Car 966 - Mexican Petroleum Corporation

Bob Chaparro
 

Photos: MPLX Tank Car 966 - Mexican Petroleum Corporation

Undated photos from West Virginia University:

https://wvhistoryonview.org/image/020652.jpg

https://wvhistoryonview.org/image/020653.jpg

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Help with car ID

earlyrail
 

Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 08:09:48 PDT

<Dave,

<The type of car is a ventilated boxcar. Ownership appears to be 4 letters, maybe ending in OGX? (where the X <would indicate private ownership)

<Regards,
<Bruce
<Bruce Smith
<Auburn, AL

The X for private owners was not required until beginning in 1913
Very few used it before that date.

Howard Garner


Re: Photo Help -- DT&I Boxcar #14300-14549

hubert mask
 

Is this one worth taking a look at.

Is there a current car to look at.

Hubert Mask

Mask Island Decals


On Jul 10, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Craig Wilson <agecompanyphotog@...> wrote:

Nice . . . photos in the "original" paint scheme are fairly rare.  Not long after this 1956 date the DT&I began painting its cars in the scheme with the compass herald and "We have the CONNECTIONS" slogan.  The weathering is interesting too.  The DT&I shipped a lot of (bagged) clay out of Ohio and this car certainly looks like it might have been in this service.

Craig Wilson

21321 - 21340 of 196840