Mont;

For sure, scrap now!

This appears to be the result of a wreck, or very hard coupling, which P&WV undoubtedly had to document for claims.

But what I find unusual is the way they were loaded, like with no understanding on how they’d behave.  Sheesh.

I am assembling a presentation on RR coil loading experiences, and how the RRs evolved their practices over time, resulting in dedicated coil cars, so I am looking to these early instances for the “why”.

Coils misbehaving was a problem that increased with increasing size, weight, and finish quality requirements.

This tipping over behavior was something I am astonished to see wasn’t anticipated.

I’d love to see someone model that load!

Elden Gatwood

Could be ends of larger coils used to stamp out car fenders and home appliances.  Coils might have been involved in a wreck.  Scrap now.

Group;

Any insights into what uses these coils would have been for?

Any translation of the writing?

Nice RDG gon, BTW!

Elden Gatwood

Attachments:

• early coil Metal_Coils_At_Avella_001_Web.jpg
• early coil Metal_Coils_At_Avella_002_Web.jpg
• early coil Metal_Coils_At_Rook_004_Web.jpg

Could be ends of larger coils used to stamp out car fenders and home appliances.  Coils might have been involved in a wreck.  Scrap now.

Group;

Any insights into what uses these coils would have been for?

Any translation of the writing?

Nice RDG gon, BTW!

Elden Gatwood

Attachments:

• early coil Metal_Coils_At_Avella_001_Web.jpg
• early coil Metal_Coils_At_Avella_002_Web.jpg
• early coil Metal_Coils_At_Rook_004_Web.jpg

roof flashing?

Group;

Any insights into what uses these coils would have been for?

Any translation of the writing?

Nice RDG gon, BTW!

Elden Gatwood

Attachments:

• early coil Metal_Coils_At_Avella_001_Web.jpg
• early coil Metal_Coils_At_Avella_002_Web.jpg
• early coil Metal_Coils_At_Rook_004_Web.jpg

On Jul 17, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Douglas Harding <iowacentralrr@...> wrote:

They do appear to be trailers stood on end.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of akerboomk
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 8:34 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Jeeps On Chicago Great Western Flat Car

 

Are those army trailers, “on end”, behind the first ATSF gon. on the left?

They look too big to be the “jeep” trailers, so I’m guessing ones towed behind the larger trucks?

 

-- 
Ken Akerboom 

Are those army trailers, “on end”, behind the first ATSF gon. on the left?

They look too big to be the “jeep” trailers, so I’m guessing ones towed behind the larger trucks?

--
Ken Akerboom

Peter I have a few more photos of SLSX cars, most from the 71000 series. Also the 3600 you have and a couple from the 72000 series. All have the letterboard, so I would suspect the board is missing in your photo. 3600 is a single deck car, 71000 cars are double deck, with four doors, 72000 are single deck cars.

From notes: 71038 was built 12-31 and 72221 is marked as a GATC car. Swift sold their reefer and tankcar fleets to General American in 1930/31. I assume the stockcars were included in this sale.

The Lifelike Proto 2000 (now Walthers) Mather car was offered as a double deck with four doors. To my knowledge it is the only HO doubledeck stockcar with four doors. The doors could be used in a kitbash on another car. The Red caboose 36’ SP car comes to mind and the Intermountain 40’ ATSF car.

NISX is North American Car Corp. NA purchased Mather in the late 50s. You could see Mather stockcars relettered for NISX in your era. Also beginning in the very late 50s some Mather cars were rebuilt/stretched into 50’ cars. CBQ, B&O, NYC, and perhaps others ran these cars, both single and double deck. The late Stan Radarowicz offered a kit for kitbashing these 50’ cars.

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

I did a search on Swift stock cars (and SLSX) on the group site...Ed Mines asked a question looking for an article  and I found several postings and topics with mention of photos, but that's it.

I'm hoping to learn numbers series and car types of the following....
I have photos of the following: 
SLSX 3600
SLSX 71548 with SLSX 710_ _ (last two digits not legible); SLSX 71548 is a two-level, two door car does not have a Swift Live Stock Express letterboard; were there different P&L styles or is the letterboard just missing?
SLSX 72207
- are there any accurate models of two-level, two-door stock cars? and who built these cars?
- are there any drawings of these cars? 
Apologies, I do have an ORER from Westerfield, but not with me or even handy.

Of interest; the photo is of both Swift reefers and stock cars being switched in Hartford, CT; so apparently there was a Swift plant that processed and distributed dressed meat and slaughtered livestock at the same location. Seems a little unusual for me for late-'50's New England.

I also did a search on NISX stock cars and it appears these were not only from a time beyond this group but also a time beyond my own interest, so looking for the following:
- Confirmation there were no 40' two-level, 4-door stock cars with NISX reporting marks in 1959
- Information as to what railroad and number series NISX 3132 may have belonged to in 1959 (perhaps it already belonged to National Car but but bore predecessor road markings?) 
- are there any accurate models of two-level, four-door stock cars? and who built these cars?  I would post a photo but it's taken in the future...
- are there any drawings of such cars? 

I did read several posts that National Car started to use NISX reporting marks 1960 or later. I'm really only interested in information within the timespan of this group and particularly 1958-9.

I am certain the photos I have of SLSX 71548 and NISX 3132 (both two level stock cars, but one with two doors, the other with four) were taken at the same location. and I'm musing that it may be fun to have a couple of livestock cars of different types if I can find the preceding owner of NISX 3132 or a close relative.

Stay healthy,
Peter Ness