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Re: SLSX stock cars and NISX confirmation

Charlie Vlk
 

Seems to me I recall that Swift also got some CB&Q SM-?? Stock cars.  I recall seeing a photo of one lettered for Swift, don’t recall the reporting mark.

Charlie Vlk


Re: Photo: Canadian Pacific Railroad Boxcar 131844 (was 131944)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
I think the number on this car is actually 131844, not 131944.
 
In addition to the image that Bob pointed us to, there are additional images of this same car
 
 
 
 
Thanks Bob!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

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Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 2:28 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Canadian Pacific Railroad Boxcar 131944

Photo: Canadian Pacific Railroad Boxcar 131944

A 1913 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.133731.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Very good view of the "B" end.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [PRR] [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondola 280422

Eric Hansmann
 

That’s the image that inspired the paint, lettering, and weathering on my X26. Here’s the blog post.

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2016/10/14/masking-tape-as-a-weathering-tool/

 

I’ve seen images featuring a couple other Lines cars that had a hasty reletter job.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 

From: PRR@PRR.groups.io <PRR@PRR.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Smith
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:33 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io; PRR@PRR.groups.io
Subject: Re: [PRR] [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondola 280422

 

X26 540005 to the right has had "LINES" painted out.

 

Regards,

Bruce

Bruce Smith

Auburn AL

 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:29 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondola 280422

 

Photo: PRR Gondola 280422

A 1926 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.261933.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: B&M covered hopper 5599 / KCEX #119

akerboomk
 

It was KEPX 119 (not KCEX)
I can't find who owned those reporting marks.
--
Ken Akerboom


Re: [Espee] Photos: S.P. Boxcar 84993

Brent Greer
 

I know that most of this detail would be too small to see with normal vision in HO scale (but that certainly doesn't stop Bill from doing the incredible detailing that he does), so it makes me wonder, has anyone ever made route card decals in HO scale?   

Brent (at the end of a long Friday and yes, I have started my vacation with an early libation - so please forgive if this is a ridiculous thought - it wasn't my first and won't be the last...)  🙂

Brent


Dr. J. Brent Greer


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tony Thompson <tony@...>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 2:57 PM
To: Espee@groups.io <Espee@groups.io>; RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] [Espee] Photos: S.P. Boxcar 84993
 
Bob Chaparro wrote:

Photos: S.P. Boxcar 84993
Two 1918 photos from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:
Scroll on the photos to enlarge them.
Looks like there are at least two route cards on this car.

     I count six cards or remnants of cards. Clerks would tell you they never bothered to remove old cards, but just added the new one that was needed.

Tony Thompson




Re: Photo: WHD Boxcar 560

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
Any chance this is an insulated boxcar? Possible equipped with a heater? I ask because the one door we can just barely see looks like it has two leaves and is hinged like a reefer door.
 
Claus Schlund
 

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Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 2:29 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: WHD Boxcar 560

Photo: WHD Boxcar 560

A 1909 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.091278.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Very good view of the "A" end.

Possibly Western Heater Despatch boxcar. J. Kibben Ingalls was head of the North Western Refrigerator Line Company and organized his own private car company, the Western Heater Despatch, in 1906.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Espee] Photos: S.P. Boxcar 84993

Tony Thompson
 

Bob Chaparro wrote:

Photos: S.P. Boxcar 84993
Two 1918 photos from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:
Scroll on the photos to enlarge them.
Looks like there are at least two route cards on this car.

     I count six cards or remnants of cards. Clerks would tell you they never bothered to remove old cards, but just added the new one that was needed.

Tony Thompson




Re: pickle cars in California (was Re: Heinz plant locations)

Gene Deimling
 

Pickles and vinegar have little in common other than they shipped in wood vats or tanks.   I have not found any information on salting stations within Cali.  Pickles were packed in the Seattle area by Nalleys.  

Vinegar production facilities did exist in California.  There was a large plant in the East Bay for a number of years. Some of the wine produced in California ended up as vinegar.   

Gene Deimling 


Photo: American Steel & Wire Company Gondola 1204

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: American Steel & Wire Company Gondola 1204

A circa 1915-1917 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A200102.108.DR/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: WF&NW Boxcar 4108

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: WF&NW Boxcar 4108

A 1913 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.133770.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

This possibly is a Wichita Falls & Northwestern Railway boxcar. Information on that company: https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/eqw10

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Flat Cars With Stationary Steam Engine Load

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Flat Cars With Stationary Steam Engine Load

A 1907 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.071580.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: PRR Gondola 280422

Bruce Smith
 

X26 540005 to the right has had "LINES" painted out.

Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:29 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondola 280422
 

Photo: PRR Gondola 280422

A 1926 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.261933.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: PRR Hopper 192255

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: PRR Hopper 192255

A 1916 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.164385.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Good 3/4 view of "B" end.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photos: S.P. Boxcar 84993

Bob Chaparro
 

Photos: S.P. Boxcar 84993

Two 1918 photos from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A8223.2557.RR/viewer

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A8223.2558.RR/viewer

Scroll on the photos to enlarge them.

Looks like there are at least two route cards on this car.

Second photo is a shot of a messy interior.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: PRR Gondola 280422

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: PRR Gondola 280422

A 1926 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.261933.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: WHD Boxcar 560

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: WHD Boxcar 560

A 1909 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.091278.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Very good view of the "A" end.

Possibly Western Heater Despatch boxcar. J. Kibben Ingalls was head of the North Western Refrigerator Line Company and organized his own private car company, the Western Heater Despatch, in 1906.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Illinois Central Concrete Coal Hopper Car 230000

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Illinois Central Concrete Coal Hopper Car 230000

A 1919 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3Arg90.14.61/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Description: "This coal car was an experiment initiated by the Illinois Central Railroad in response to a national need to divert steel to the war effort during World War I. Photo taken in the yards of the Westmoreland Coal Company at Export, Pa."

Note stencil "Not To Leave Lines".

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Canadian Pacific Railroad Boxcar 131944

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Canadian Pacific Railroad Boxcar 131944

A 1913 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.133731.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Very good view of the "B" end.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: GATX 4507

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: GATX 4507

A 1916 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.16899.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Very good view of the "B" end. Notice the "MCB Construction" stencil.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Heinz plant locations

Dave Parker
 

Re:  Absence of receiving stations in CA

We can only speculate, but the factory in Tracy was completed in 1946, and accounted for 15% of Heinz's US production (see p. 7).  Tracy is in the (northern) heart of the San Joaquin Valley, one of  the proverbial "breadbaskets of the world", and the one with most crop diversity.  Even by 1940,  much of the SJV's road network was paved, including all of Highway 99 which connected Bakersfield and Sacramento.

My guess would be that the combination of a modern plant that did not specialize in cucumber products, and a more modern infrastructure, obviated the need for receiving stations.  Much of what was processed at Tracy could have come from fields within a 50 or 100 mile radius.

Much of the cucumber infrastructure in MI also appears in the 1910 map, suggesting a lot of legacy facilities, although there seems to have been some consolidation of factories.
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA

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