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coil gondola shipping early problems

Andy Carlson
 

A rather simple kit bash from a P2K 52" Greenville gondola. Made in 1953 and came new with roller bearing trucks. Like others mentioned, since this was in direct service on the WP (straying off the WP only to get to Pittsburg CA's steel mill on the Sacramento Northern-a subsidary of the WP).

Western Pacific had 29' gondolas made specifically to haul coil steel. The coils were loaded over the trucks only. They were loaded on their sides in cradles.
Andy Jackson
Santa Fe Springs CA


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Re: coil gondola shipping early problems

 

Western Pacific had 29' gondolas made specifically to haul coil steel. The coils were loaded over the trucks only. They were loaded on their sides in cradles.
Andy Jackson
Santa Fe Springs CA



Re: pickle cars in California (was Re: Heinz plant locations)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Gene and List Members,
 
I don't know if this is a 'salting station', but the image linked below proclaims itself to be the PACIFIC VINEGAR & PICKLE WORKS in Hayward CA. It is served by rail. No pickle cars in sight, but that does not mean there weren't any ever there!
 
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] pickle cars in California (was Re: Heinz plant locations)

Pickles and vinegar have little in common other than they shipped in wood vats or tanks.   I have not found any information on salting stations within Cali.  Pickles were packed in the Seattle area by Nalleys.  

Vinegar production facilities did exist in California.  There was a large plant in the East Bay for a number of years. Some of the wine produced in California ended up as vinegar.   

Gene Deimling 


Re: coil gondola shipping early problems

O Fenton Wells
 

Good looking car Eric
Fenton

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 3:47 PM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

I wonder if these coils are for can stock.

 

BTW, the Reading gondola has an 8-1937 journal repack stencil. It’s also wearing original lettering applied shortly after the corporate name change from P&R to Reading. This photo inspired the lettering on my F&C Reading gondola.

https://i0.wp.com/designbuildop.hansmanns.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/201705_reading_gm1.jpg

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 9:35 AM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] coil gondola shipping early problems

 

Group;

 

Any insights into what uses these coils would have been for?

 

Any translation of the writing?

 

Nice RDG gon, BTW!

 

Elden Gatwood



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Fenton Wells
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Re: Heinz plant locations

Eric Hansmann
 

There are a couple sets of vats in that image. There are a host of slightly smaller vats on the right side of the plant. I also see two spurs to the facility. These other vats sit between the two spurs.

 

There seem to be freight cars sitting on the lower spur to the right near a parking lot.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Craig Wilson
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:35 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Heinz plant locations

 

Heinz (now Heinz North America) still has a facility located along W. 16th Street in Holland Michigan.  See the attached Google Earth image.  There are still large vinegar vats that are visible in the upper left in the image (sitting in line next to them while waiting to load there can be no doubt what they are).  No rails into the plant any more but the roadbed (Pere Marquette/C&O) can be seen curving in from the northeast in the upper right corner of the image.

 

Last time I was there the plant was shipping out small condiment ("relish") packets in semi-trucks and marine containers - which traveled by RAIL from Chicago.  Everyone I dealt with there seemed to have an unpleasant attitude - which might be a consequence of having to work every day in a place with a strong odor of vinegar!

 

Craig Wilson

 

 

 

 


Re: coil gondola shipping early problems

Eric Hansmann
 

I wonder if these coils are for can stock.

 

BTW, the Reading gondola has an 8-1937 journal repack stencil. It’s also wearing original lettering applied shortly after the corporate name change from P&R to Reading. This photo inspired the lettering on my F&C Reading gondola.

https://i0.wp.com/designbuildop.hansmanns.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/201705_reading_gm1.jpg

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 9:35 AM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] coil gondola shipping early problems

 

Group;

 

Any insights into what uses these coils would have been for?

 

Any translation of the writing?

 

Nice RDG gon, BTW!

 

Elden Gatwood


Re: pickle cars in California (was Re: Heinz plant locations)

 

There was a Nalley's Fine Foods on the Los Angeles Junction Ry (LAJ) Owens Lead. They had 8 spots on their spur that received frozen foods, bulk corn, spuds & other. No mention of pickles or vinegar in the LAJ Industry List. Their address is/was 5001 So. Soto St 90058. Use that address to see it on historicaerials.com & Bing or Google aerials.
Andy Jackson
Santa Fe Springs CA



Re: SLSX stock cars and NISX confirmation

Charlie Vlk
 

Seems to me I recall that Swift also got some CB&Q SM-?? Stock cars.  I recall seeing a photo of one lettered for Swift, don’t recall the reporting mark.

Charlie Vlk


Re: Photo: Canadian Pacific Railroad Boxcar 131844 (was 131944)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
I think the number on this car is actually 131844, not 131944.
 
In addition to the image that Bob pointed us to, there are additional images of this same car
 
 
 
 
Thanks Bob!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 2:28 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Canadian Pacific Railroad Boxcar 131944

Photo: Canadian Pacific Railroad Boxcar 131944

A 1913 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.133731.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Very good view of the "B" end.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [PRR] [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondola 280422

Eric Hansmann
 

That’s the image that inspired the paint, lettering, and weathering on my X26. Here’s the blog post.

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2016/10/14/masking-tape-as-a-weathering-tool/

 

I’ve seen images featuring a couple other Lines cars that had a hasty reletter job.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 

From: PRR@PRR.groups.io <PRR@PRR.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Smith
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:33 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io; PRR@PRR.groups.io
Subject: Re: [PRR] [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondola 280422

 

X26 540005 to the right has had "LINES" painted out.

 

Regards,

Bruce

Bruce Smith

Auburn AL

 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:29 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondola 280422

 

Photo: PRR Gondola 280422

A 1926 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.261933.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: B&M covered hopper 5599 / KCEX #119

akerboomk
 

It was KEPX 119 (not KCEX)
I can't find who owned those reporting marks.
--
Ken Akerboom


Re: [Espee] Photos: S.P. Boxcar 84993

Brent Greer
 

I know that most of this detail would be too small to see with normal vision in HO scale (but that certainly doesn't stop Bill from doing the incredible detailing that he does), so it makes me wonder, has anyone ever made route card decals in HO scale?   

Brent (at the end of a long Friday and yes, I have started my vacation with an early libation - so please forgive if this is a ridiculous thought - it wasn't my first and won't be the last...)  🙂

Brent


Dr. J. Brent Greer


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tony Thompson <tony@...>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 2:57 PM
To: Espee@groups.io <Espee@groups.io>; RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] [Espee] Photos: S.P. Boxcar 84993
 
Bob Chaparro wrote:

Photos: S.P. Boxcar 84993
Two 1918 photos from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:
Scroll on the photos to enlarge them.
Looks like there are at least two route cards on this car.

     I count six cards or remnants of cards. Clerks would tell you they never bothered to remove old cards, but just added the new one that was needed.

Tony Thompson




Re: Photo: WHD Boxcar 560

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
Any chance this is an insulated boxcar? Possible equipped with a heater? I ask because the one door we can just barely see looks like it has two leaves and is hinged like a reefer door.
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 2:29 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: WHD Boxcar 560

Photo: WHD Boxcar 560

A 1909 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.091278.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Very good view of the "A" end.

Possibly Western Heater Despatch boxcar. J. Kibben Ingalls was head of the North Western Refrigerator Line Company and organized his own private car company, the Western Heater Despatch, in 1906.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Espee] Photos: S.P. Boxcar 84993

Tony Thompson
 

Bob Chaparro wrote:

Photos: S.P. Boxcar 84993
Two 1918 photos from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:
Scroll on the photos to enlarge them.
Looks like there are at least two route cards on this car.

     I count six cards or remnants of cards. Clerks would tell you they never bothered to remove old cards, but just added the new one that was needed.

Tony Thompson




Re: pickle cars in California (was Re: Heinz plant locations)

Gene Deimling
 

Pickles and vinegar have little in common other than they shipped in wood vats or tanks.   I have not found any information on salting stations within Cali.  Pickles were packed in the Seattle area by Nalleys.  

Vinegar production facilities did exist in California.  There was a large plant in the East Bay for a number of years. Some of the wine produced in California ended up as vinegar.   

Gene Deimling 


Photo: American Steel & Wire Company Gondola 1204

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: American Steel & Wire Company Gondola 1204

A circa 1915-1917 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A200102.108.DR/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: WF&NW Boxcar 4108

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: WF&NW Boxcar 4108

A 1913 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.133770.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

This possibly is a Wichita Falls & Northwestern Railway boxcar. Information on that company: https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/eqw10

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Flat Cars With Stationary Steam Engine Load

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Flat Cars With Stationary Steam Engine Load

A 1907 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.071580.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: PRR Gondola 280422

Bruce Smith
 

X26 540005 to the right has had "LINES" painted out.

Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:29 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondola 280422
 

Photo: PRR Gondola 280422

A 1926 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.261933.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: PRR Hopper 192255

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: PRR Hopper 192255

A 1916 photo from the University of Pittsburgh Digital Archives:

https://digital.library.pitt.edu/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.164385.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Good 3/4 view of "B" end.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA