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Photo: Unloading A Boat From IC Boxcar 161748

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Unloading A Boat From IC Boxcar 161748

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM118734

A 1941 photo from the Wisconsin Historical Society:

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: PRR Flat Car With Tractors

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: PRR Flat Car With Tractors

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM133283

A 1928 photo from the Wisconsin Historical Society:

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Illinois Northern Gondola

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Illinois Northern Gondola

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM142619

A 1906 photo from the Wisconsin Historical Society:

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Boxcar With A Little End Damage

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Boxcar With A Little End Damage

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM143107

A 1907 photo from the Wisconsin Historical Society:

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Southern Ventilated Boxcar

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Southern Ventilated Boxcar

A 1907 photo from the Wisconsin Historical Society:

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM143896

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: MDTX 18122

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: MDTX 18122

A 1913 photo from the Historic Pittsburgh website:

https://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A715.13B.CP/viewer

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Only fair quality detail of roof and upper B end.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: URTX 5365 - Oscar Mayer Reefer

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: URTX 5365 - Oscar Mayer Reefer

Two 1943 photos from the Wisconsin Historical Society:

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM13658

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM13657

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photos: URTX 5393 & 5374 - Oscar Mayer

Bob Chaparro
 

Photos: URTX 5393 & 5374 - Oscar Mayer

Two 1943 photos from the Wisconsin Historical Society:

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM13654

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM13661

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Oscar Mayer Loading Dock

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Oscar Mayer Loading Dock

An undated photo from the Wisconsin Historical Society:

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM135187

A lot of action back then.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: NJI&I Postwar AAR Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #1

Bob Chapman
 

I took this photo at Rantoul, IL. 1969
Ron Christensen


Ron --

Interesting! Different series -- WAB must have gotten a good tax break with all the boxcars in its little NJI&I sub.

Love the off-color door. And the reporting marks on this one are in the usual location.

Thanks,
Bob Chapman
 


Re: inside running rail of the curve will be accompanied by an addition guard rail

Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek
 

Ted,

 

Yes, I mis-wrote.  Some of the frogs have guard rails, some don’t.  But none of the curved track has a guard rail on the inner rail, even though the curves are as tight as 90 feet radius.

 

Ji van Gaasbeek

Irvine, California

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ted Schnepf
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 7:22 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] inside running rail of the curve will be accompanied by an addition guard rail

 

Hello,

I believe from the photos they are "self guarding frogs", the guard rails are built into the frogs , not needing a separate guard rails.

Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353

On Thursday, July 23, 2020, 11:02:14 PM CDT, Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek <jvgbvg@...> wrote:

 

 

I’ not so sure.  Look at the trackage at The Harlem Transfer Company:

 

http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/indloco/ht.html#:~:text=The%20Harlem%20Transfer%20Company%20was%20located%20at%20Park,other%20railroads%20would%20jointly%20operate%20in%20the%20facility.

 

The majority of the curves, and the curved-frog turnouts, had 90-foot and 104-foot radii, but no guard rails on the inside rail.  There may be other reasons why the HTC could get away with such absurd track radii without guard rails.

 

 

Jim van Gaasbeek

Irvine, Ca

 

 


Re: HO Red Caboose Post-War Welded Tank Car-Improved

Michael Gross
 

Very nice, Steve, but is it possible to post a photo of the other side of the model to show the brake detail?  Did you replace some the original with wire? Many thanks!
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: Photo: Assorted Boxcars (NYC, MC, PRR & Wabash)

Bob Chaparro
 

I posted a number of billboard links from the Duke site to the Santa Fe and Southern Pacific groups as well as Sunkist billboards to my own Railroad Citrus Industry Modeling Group. Claus Schlund posted billboard links to the PRR site.
Unfortunately, these billboard examples only are available in black-and-white.
On the Espee (Southern Pacific) group someone posted color versions of some of the billboards so if you are into SP and modeling their billboards, check those out.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: NJI&I Postwar AAR Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #1

Tim O'Connor
 

Bob

That is gorgeous. I've always admired the tooling of the Front Range dreadnaught ends - he must have
pantographed the real thing to do them that well. The bodies dress up nicely. I fill in the pre-drilled holes
with styrene rod.




On 7/23/2020 12:37 PM, Robert Chapman wrote:
Circa 1990, Front Range offered styrene kits for variations of postwar AAR boxcars with R-3-4 improved dreadnaught ends and diagonal panel roofs, a cache of which I unburied in my pandemic project to drain the stash of long-slumbering styrene kits. One of the variations is a 12-panel welded car with 8-foot doors – a prototype fielded by Wabash subsidiary NJI&I, which acquired two 50-car series in 1/50.   

The Front Range carbody is nicely executed, but with add-on parts well below contemporary standards. New parts include a Yarmouth Models US Gypsum runningboard, Kadee 7/7 ladders/bracket grabs/Miner brakewheel, and Kato ASF A-3 trucks. Front Range’s deep fishbelly sidesill was modified to NJI&I’s more conventional pattern. Decals are from K4, which offers an amazing variety of secondary road choices. No weathering – once in a while we need a fresh car. Interestingly, the prototype lettering is “wrong side”. (Anyone know why?)    

For those not already NJI&I modelers (!) – the New Jersey, Indiana & Illinois was a short line created by Singer Sewing Machine to connect its South Bend plant to the Wabash 11 miles south; the roadname comes from the three states hosting Singer plants. Acquired by Wabash in 1926, it was operated as a separate subsidiary. Completing these undecs has added the fun of modeling prototypes that I would never have dreamed of pulling off the shelf at the LHS.  

Regards,
Bob Chapman

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Cotton bales

Paul Doggett
 

Oh I am sure you have .
Paul 


On 24 Jul 2020, at 15:56, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


I doubt that !!!

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:50 AM Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Fenton 

I hope you have more patience than me.

Paul Doggett 


On 24 Jul 2020, at 15:45, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


I'm going to have to figure out how to make those as my area of the US did lots of cotton.
Fenton

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:42 AM Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
There used to be a guy in England who produced decent cotton bales unfortunately he passed away in middle age .
Paul Doggett     England. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿





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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Re: Cotton bales

O Fenton Wells
 

I doubt that !!!


On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:50 AM Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Fenton 

I hope you have more patience than me.

Paul Doggett 


On 24 Jul 2020, at 15:45, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


I'm going to have to figure out how to make those as my area of the US did lots of cotton.
Fenton

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:42 AM Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
There used to be a guy in England who produced decent cotton bales unfortunately he passed away in middle age .
Paul Doggett     England. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿





--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Cotton bales

Paul Doggett
 

Fenton 

I hope you have more patience than me.

Paul Doggett 


On 24 Jul 2020, at 15:45, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


I'm going to have to figure out how to make those as my area of the US did lots of cotton.
Fenton

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:42 AM Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
There used to be a guy in England who produced decent cotton bales unfortunately he passed away in middle age .
Paul Doggett     England. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿





--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Cotton bales

O Fenton Wells
 

I'm going to have to figure out how to make those as my area of the US did lots of cotton.
Fenton

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:42 AM Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
There used to be a guy in England who produced decent cotton bales unfortunately he passed away in middle age .
Paul Doggett     England. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿





--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Cotton bales

Paul Doggett
 

There used to be a guy in England who produced decent cotton bales unfortunately he passed away in middle age .
Paul Doggett England. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿


Re: inside running rail of the curve will be accompanied by an addition guard rail

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello,

I believe from the photos they are "self guarding frogs", the guard rails are built into the frogs , not needing a separate guard rails.

Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353

On Thursday, July 23, 2020, 11:02:14 PM CDT, Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek <jvgbvg@...> wrote:


I’ not so sure.  Look at the trackage at The Harlem Transfer Company:

 

http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/indloco/ht.html#:~:text=The%20Harlem%20Transfer%20Company%20was%20located%20at%20Park,other%20railroads%20would%20jointly%20operate%20in%20the%20facility.

 

The majority of the curves, and the curved-frog turnouts, had 90-foot and 104-foot radii, but no guard rails on the inside rail.  There may be other reasons why the HTC could get away with such absurd track radii without guard rails.

 

 

Jim van Gaasbeek

Irvine, Ca

 

 

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