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Re: Posting photo links was Photo: Tank Cars At National Zinc Separating Company Plant
Dave Bayless
Thank You Bob , and others for posting these photos. Keep them coming as they generate conversation and data from other list members in the know. This is information I can use and would have a hard time finding on my own. Those that don't like the photos are few and far between and don't have anything to share anyway. They should appreciate the digging and searching you do and learn to use the delete key if not needed. Sounds like they are just a flat spot on the wheel and should mark off, worked too many 12-hour trips. Thanks a million, Dave SilverStreak Bayless Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE device
------ Original message------ From: Bob Chaparro via groups.io Date: Sat, Jul 25, 2020 11:04 AM Cc: Subject:Re: [RealSTMFC] Posting photo links was Photo: Tank Cars At National Zinc Separating Company Plant Thank you for your support. I have also received five private messages of support as of this morning. I find these photos while I am searching for content for my own groups. And rather than ignore those photos I can't use I know there's a benefit to sharing them with modelers and historians who may be able to use them or folks who would just enjoy seeing them. In my many years in the hobby I have benefitted tremendously from others who have freely shared what they know and what they have found. It's my time to give something back and I enjoy doing it. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA Moderator Model Railroads of Southern California https://groups.io/g/ModelRailroadsofSoCalif Railroad Citrus Industry Modeling Group https://groups.io/g/RailroadCitrusIndustryModelingGroup Railway Bull Shippers Group
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Re: Reboxx Reboot
Schuyler Larrabee
Yeah, with their advertising all over them. I >know< where I bought things and I don’ like being an ad for them.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill J. via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 11:58 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Reboxx Reboot
Don't forget that brasstrains.com sells boxes with foam inserts!
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Re: photo links (was Photo: Tank Cars At National Zinc Separating Company Plant)
I think the "why" is up to the viewer. But I do hope the photos will start dialogues by folks who know a lot more about the pictured subject than I do.
And these photos are not as easy to find as you might think. I review somewhere between 600 to 1,500 photos most weeks. Many of the photos I find cannot be found using search terms such as railroad, train, boxcar, etc. because so many of these sites do not reference everything that is in a particular photo. And so of the little known community historical society websites, again with no reference to railroad content in their search engines, are themselves difficult to find. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Reboxx Reboot
A Google Earth search for “4233 Evergreen Lane Los Angeles, CA” took me to Evergreen Drive in Forest Lawn Cemetery. Hmmmm.
Thanks!
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Bob Chaparro via groups.io" <chiefbobbb@...>
There is a phone number and address for Reboxx on their website ( https://www.reboxx.com/ ), which is copyright 2020. I could find no owner for the phone number and two sources had no listing for the stated address. Strange. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Posting photo links was Photo: Tank Cars At National Zinc Separating Company Plant
Thank you for your support. I have also received five private messages of support as of this morning. I find these photos while I am searching for content for my own groups. And rather than ignore those photos I can't use I know there's a benefit to sharing them with modelers and historians who may be able to use them or folks who would just enjoy seeing them. In my many years in the hobby I have benefitted tremendously from others who have freely shared what they know and what they have found. It's my time to give something back and I enjoy doing it. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA Moderator Model Railroads of Southern California https://groups.io/g/ModelRailroadsofSoCalif Railroad Citrus Industry Modeling Group https://groups.io/g/RailroadCitrusIndustryModelingGroup Railway Bull Shippers Group
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Re: Reboxx Reboot
Schuyler Larrabee
Those of us who were close to the REBOXX people are checking into this. The name is registered and has not been abandoned. I would not get excited that the line is resurrected, as much as I personally would love to see that.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 1:55 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Reboxx Reboot
There is a phone number and address for Reboxx on their website ( https://www.reboxx.com/ ), which is copyright 2020. I could find no owner for the phone number and two sources had no listing for the stated address. Strange. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Reboxx Reboot
There is a phone number and address for Reboxx on their website ( https://www.reboxx.com/ ), which is copyright 2020. I could find no owner for the phone number and two sources had no listing for the stated address. Strange. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photo: Tank Cars At National Zinc Separating Company Plant
David
To get back to the actual topic, does anyone know how to zoom or enlarge this photo? The car looks like a pre-tank-anchor German-American product, and a larger version would be nice.
David Thompson
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Re: B&O 17000
Benjamin Hom
Andy Carlson wrote: "B&O #17000. A mostly steel box car." Eric Hansmann asked: "Would this early boxcar have steel or iron sheathing?" Iron. From the B&O Railroad Museum website: http://www.borail.org/17000.aspx Ben Hom
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Re: Reboxx Reboot
Bill J.
Don't forget that brasstrains.com sells boxes with foam inserts!
Bill Jolitz
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Re: Photo: Western Union Crew On C&NW Boxcar
mofwcaboose <MOFWCABOOSE@...>
In 1912 Western Union began a program of reconstructing their lines that lasted until the 1930s. This could be one of the first of the "line forces" that did the work.
John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Sent: Fri, Jul 24, 2020 1:59 pm Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Western Union Crew On C&NW Boxcar Photo: Western Union Crew On C&NW Boxcar
A 1912 photo from the Wisconsin Historical Society:
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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Re: Was Photo: URTX 5365 - Oscar Mayer Reefer / Now: Roof hatches
pennsylvania1954
Two more places you might have seen diamond plate hatches. ART used them. Photos in The Eagle from the MPHS, Winter 2003. See page 9. Also Intermoutain provided them as an option in ART reefers available from Amarillo RR/Missouri Pacific Historical Society.
I just happen to have one nearly finished on my work bench. -- Steve Hoxie Pensacola FL
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Re: B&O 17000
Eric Hansmann
Would this early boxcar have steel or iron sheathing?
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Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
On Jul 24, 2020, at 5:25 PM, Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
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Re: Monon 3639
Mont Switzer
Group,
This series of gondolas were built by Thrall in 1952. They were of composite construction because the Monon was still hauling cut and milled limestone throughout the country. This product required among other things packing, blocking and bracing cars wood floors, ends and sides. Uncured cut stone damaged easily.
By the late 1960's there was little cut stone business left due to various changes in building construction and the intrusion of trucking into the business. The Monon therefore repurposed these cars as follows:
--re-equipped the cars with steel side and end panels for general service --one car was equipped for piggyback service --at least 5 cars equipped with coil racks and covers --the car shown was equipped to handle coke containers --some cars were equipped with larger containers for handling scrap aluminum --several cars had their wood sides and ends extended a foot or so and were equipped with diagonal panel roofs becoming covered gons for handling aluminum
Note that the cars when built arrived in the steam era, but the rebuilding's occurred too late. There were only 100 cars so as you can see the Monon got a lot of mileage out of them in their first and second lives. This was typical of the Monon; convert what you had to what your customers needed. Makes for some pretty interesting modeling.
Mont Switzer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] on behalf of Rich C via groups.io [rhcdmc@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 10:31 AM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io; main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Monon 3680 Another shot of those class LG gons
Rich Christie
On Saturday, July 25, 2020, 08:37:29 AM CDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
Bill
You are right, the builder photo is on page 173 of the 1953 Car Builder's Cyclopedia, in a Thrall advertisement. Some of these cars remained as built for a long time, as seen in this 1971 photo. With such LOW SIDES - you're saying they were built for coke? On 7/25/2020 9:13 AM, william darnaby wrote: These cars were built as gons by Thrall in 1952 and, except for the covers and wood sides replaced by steel, looked pretty much as you see it in the photo. IIRC, there is a builders photo
in the '53 Cyc, perhaps in a Thrall ad. The Monon also got a one off caboose from Thrall at the same time that is known by Monon modelers as the ugliest caboose on the roster. The Indianapolis gas company had a gas production facility on the east side near
the Big 4 main to Cincinnati that made gas by coking coal with the by-product of coke. Some of these cars, as well as some 40' cars, were converted to haul coke mainly to the mills around Gary. However, I have seen a video of a train on the NYC in Ohio with
a coke car returning empty to Indy from the east.
Bill Darnaby
On Saturday, July 25, 2020, 07:59:17 AM CDT, Tim O'Connor
<timboconnor@...> wrote:
Some of these rebuilt flat cars were classified as LO (!!) at some point and carried a load of 11 bulk material bins. On 7/24/2020 7:16 PM, Andy Carlson wrote: Baby boomers of my age have a special understanding of the letter 'M'. My selection is the Monon with their funky gondola. Half way there!
Enjoy,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA
-- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Southern Car & Foundry GATX 2 dome tank car build
Chuck Cover
Group,
I am finishing up a build of a SC&F #2001 2 dome tank car (GATX 1638). On the only prototype photo supplied by SC&F, is difficult to make out the lettering on the car and there are no end photos. I was hoping that someone could supply a couple of prototype photos to help me with proper decal placement. Thanks in advance.
Chuck Cover Santa Fe, NM
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Re: Posting photo links was Photo: Tank Cars At National Zinc Separating Company Plant
al_brown03
Hi Bruce,
You don't drink beer till noon? What kind of brewmaster are you, anyway? (I like Bob's pictures too, and I too like that they're searchable. I don't understand what the objection is.) Best, AL B.
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Re: Monon 3680
Rich C
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On Saturday, July 25, 2020, 08:37:29 AM CDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
Bill
You are right, the builder photo is on page 173 of the 1953 Car Builder's Cyclopedia, in a Thrall advertisement. Some of these cars remained as built for a long time, as seen in this 1971 photo. With such LOW SIDES - you're saying they were built for coke? On 7/25/2020 9:13 AM, william darnaby wrote: These cars were built as gons by Thrall in
1952 and, except for the covers and wood sides replaced by
steel, looked pretty much as you see it in the photo. IIRC,
there is a builders photo in the '53 Cyc, perhaps in a
Thrall ad. The Monon also got a one off caboose from Thrall
at the same time that is known by Monon modelers as the
ugliest caboose on the roster. The Indianapolis gas company
had a gas production facility on the east side near the Big
4 main to Cincinnati that made gas by coking coal with the
by-product of coke. Some of these cars, as well as some 40'
cars, were converted to haul coke mainly to the mills around
Gary. However, I have seen a video of a train on the NYC in
Ohio with a coke car returning empty to Indy from the east.
Bill Darnaby
On Saturday,
July 25, 2020, 07:59:17 AM CDT, Tim O'Connor
<timboconnor@...> wrote:
Some of these rebuilt flat cars were classified as LO (!!) at some point and carried a load of 11 bulk material bins. On 7/24/2020 7:16 PM, Andy Carlson wrote: Baby boomers of my age have a special
understanding of the letter 'M'. My selection is
the Monon with their funky gondola. Half way
there!
Enjoy,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA
-- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Those interested in stock cars and their associated stock yards
Oooh! - look at those Milwaukee Road (CMStP&P) double-deck stock cars with roof hatches no less.
Explanation of the roof hatches? Anything put through them couldn't get down to the lower deck. Tom
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Re: Posting photo links was Photo: Tank Cars At National Zinc Separating Company Plant
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
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Hi List Members,
I'll say that Bob does a seriously AWESOME job of
separating the diamonds out from what would otherwise be a major haystack (mixed
metaphor, yeah, I know...)
He finds stuff I would NEVER stumble across even on
my best day of searching.
I'd fully support us welcoming his continued work
to get us images of - well - STEAM ERA FREIGHT CARS! Steam era freight cars is
what we are all about, right?
To which I still say...
ENJOY!
Claus Schlund
PS: thanks Bruce for
updating the subject line!
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Those interested in stock cars and their associated stock yards
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
Those interested in stock cars and their associated
stock yards may want to have a look at this site...
Good images of the stock yards, some stock cars,
handling of sheep and pigs, but the site is real heavy on
adversizing.
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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