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Re: Photo: String Of Boxcars (Undated - 1900?)

mopacfirst
 

I, and perhaps some of the other list members, have been on that line.  Not only does it still exist, but parts of it are a commuter line and other parts of it carry passenger excursion service (plus lots of gravel and stone).  Today's railroad also includes one end of the former SP Houston-Austin line, built by the Houston and Texas Central, which was attached to this segment some time after the balance of the H&TC line east of Giddings was abandoned.  

Ron Merrick


Re: Photo: String Of Boxcars (Undated - 1900?)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Howard,
 
Thanks for the additional ifo on these cars.
 
There is a nice article covering the A&NW in Mainline Modeler Aug 1999 pg58-60
 
Adding some additional info, the above article sez: "The only standard gauge box cars built for the A&NW we 70 cars constructed by Ensign in 1891. These were placed in the number series 7000-7069 and were typical 34' 60,000 pound wood cars built at the time"
 
The article goes on to say "In 1915, there were 30 in revenue service, while in 1916 there were three"
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

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From: earlyrail
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2020 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: String Of Boxcars (Undated - 1900?)

A&NW - Austin & North Western
Part of the H&TC by 1905 and all relettered
Series 7000-7069, 34ft in 1900

Howard


Re: Photo: String Of Boxcars (Undated - 1900?)

earlyrail
 

A&NW - Austin & North Western
Part of the H&TC by 1905 and all relettered
Series 7000-7069, 34ft in 1900

Howard


Re: Freight car progress

O Fenton Wells
 

Inquiring mind wanted to know
Thanks

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 1:06 PM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:
Fenton,

The BR&P became part of the B&O on January 1, 1933. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Aug 6, 2020, at 12:04 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Eric when did the BR&P disappear and into which railroad did it get absorbed by?
Fenton

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 1:01 PM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:
And the TM cars are 40-ft while all the BR&P prototypes were 36-ft cars. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Aug 6, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

Gary Laakso wrote:
"The bottom sill sure has the ear marks of a Train Miniature boxcar."

...except the one on BR&P 4500 is inset, and the one on the Train-Miniature DS boxcar protrudes beyond the sheathing, making the model look wrong.


Ben Hom



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Re: Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars

Tony Thompson
 

gary laakso wrote:

I never realized that they came in such dazzling colors:

   These are all prototype schemes, but remember that most represent a handful of cars, sometimes only one.

Tony Thompson




Re: Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947)

Dennis Storzek
 

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 09:57 AM, Douglas Harding wrote:

I would second the suggestion the gons contain forms for concrete work. Look like larger versions of the forms I remember using when pouring foundation walls.

 

I also agree. While most of the panel form systems for residential work were plywood, or plywood on a steel frame, A lot of the really big panel forms meant to be set in place with a crane were steel or aluminum fabrications.
http://www.aluminumconcreteforms.com/crane_set_concrete_forms.htm

Dennis Storzek


Re: Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars

Allen Cain
 

Would be nice if they included the built and shop dates.

Allen Cain


Re: Freight car progress

Brian Carlson
 

Not Eric, but B&O in 1932. Sitting at my desk in Buffalo, the B in BR&P

Brian J. Carlson 

On Aug 6, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

Fenton,

The BR&P became part of the B&O on January 1, 1933. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Aug 6, 2020, at 12:04 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Eric when did the BR&P disappear and into which railroad did it get absorbed by?
Fenton

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 1:01 PM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:
And the TM cars are 40-ft while all the BR&P prototypes were 36-ft cars. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Aug 6, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

Gary Laakso wrote:
"The bottom sill sure has the ear marks of a Train Miniature boxcar."

...except the one on BR&P 4500 is inset, and the one on the Train-Miniature DS boxcar protrudes beyond the sheathing, making the model look wrong.


Ben Hom



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Gary;

 

Maybe not so dazzling in real life, but my Hooker model is garish.  I plan to knock that down considerably.

 

The less primary colored ones appear less bright.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of gary laakso
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 12:57 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars

 

I never realized that they came in such dazzling colors:

 

Blockedhttps://www.broadway-limited.com/6000gallontankcar.aspx 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock


Re: Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars

Jon Miller
 

On 8/6/2020 9:57 AM, gary laakso wrote:
I never realized that they came in such dazzling colors:

    Notice they are now in 2 packs down from initial release of 4 packs.  Way back I thought the Hooker should be black but lots of emails, the orange is correct.

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
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Re: Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars

Brian Carlson
 

These mostly appear to be new numbers on schemes already run. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Aug 6, 2020, at 12:57 PM, gary laakso <vasa0vasa@...> wrote:



I never realized that they came in such dazzling colors:

 

https://www.broadway-limited.com/6000gallontankcar.aspx 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock


Re: Freight car progress

Eric Hansmann
 

Fenton,

The BR&P became part of the B&O on January 1, 1933. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Aug 6, 2020, at 12:04 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Eric when did the BR&P disappear and into which railroad did it get absorbed by?
Fenton

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 1:01 PM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:
And the TM cars are 40-ft while all the BR&P prototypes were 36-ft cars. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Aug 6, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

Gary Laakso wrote:
"The bottom sill sure has the ear marks of a Train Miniature boxcar."

...except the one on BR&P 4500 is inset, and the one on the Train-Miniature DS boxcar protrudes beyond the sheathing, making the model look wrong.


Ben Hom



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Freight car progress

Eric Hansmann
 

Thank you, Keith! I bought a print of #4500 from you about 15 years ago. It inspired the MDC conversion. 

BTW, I have your photo catalog from then. Are the listings still current? If so, can you send me your updated prices in an off-list email? I need to catch up on several prints. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Aug 6, 2020, at 10:10 AM, Keith Retterer <rettererk56@...> wrote:

The BR&P boxcar photos I have are the builder's photos from 1909 and 1914.  I don't have any in-service 1920's photos.  But here are the two from the SSCC photographer in Butler, PA.
<edited SSCC-455.jpg>
<edited SSCC-660.jpg>


Re: Freight car progress

O Fenton Wells
 

Eric when did the BR&P disappear and into which railroad did it get absorbed by?
Fenton

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 1:01 PM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:
And the TM cars are 40-ft while all the BR&P prototypes were 36-ft cars. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Aug 6, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

Gary Laakso wrote:
"The bottom sill sure has the ear marks of a Train Miniature boxcar."

...except the one on BR&P 4500 is inset, and the one on the Train-Miniature DS boxcar protrudes beyond the sheathing, making the model look wrong.


Ben Hom



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Freight car progress

Eric Hansmann
 

And the TM cars are 40-ft while all the BR&P prototypes were 36-ft cars. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Aug 6, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

Gary Laakso wrote:
"The bottom sill sure has the ear marks of a Train Miniature boxcar."

...except the one on BR&P 4500 is inset, and the one on the Train-Miniature DS boxcar protrudes beyond the sheathing, making the model look wrong.


Ben Hom


Re: Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947)

Douglas Harding
 

I would second the suggestion the gons contain forms for concrete work. Look like larger versions of the forms I remember using when pouring foundation walls.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of mopacfirst
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 11:27 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947)

 

Those could very well literally be 'forms' for concrete work, either for a retaining wall (dike or levee) or a large formed concrete structure.  Could have been something being constructed at the time of the explosion.  Texas City and the areas near Galveston have had levees for a long time, and they use concrete walls in areas where there isn't room for an earthen dike, and sometimes there was a concrete wall at the core of an earthen levee.

Ron Merrick


Broadway Limited 6.000 gallon tank cars

gary laakso
 

I never realized that they came in such dazzling colors:

 

https://www.broadway-limited.com/6000gallontankcar.aspx 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock


Re: Freight car progress

Benjamin Hom
 

Gary Laakso wrote:
"The bottom sill sure has the ear marks of a Train Miniature boxcar."

...except the one on BR&P 4500 is inset, and the one on the Train-Miniature DS boxcar protrudes beyond the sheathing, making the model look wrong.


Ben Hom
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Re: Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947)

Richard Townsend
 

The one just beyond that has a different type of curved roof: concave.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: gary laakso <vasa0vasa@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Aug 6, 2020 9:25 am
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947)

The curved rood boxcar next to the #3 on the print, very likely is Northern Pacific.
 
Gary Laakso
Northwest of Mike Brock
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947)
 
Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947)
A photo from the Portal To Texas History website:
Photo can be enlarged quite a bit.
Site of the Texas City disaster.
Can anyone identify the loads with more specificity? Caption says "large forms".
Thanks
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Gondolas With "Large Forms" Loads (1947)

mopacfirst
 

Those could very well literally be 'forms' for concrete work, either for a retaining wall (dike or levee) or a large formed concrete structure.  Could have been something being constructed at the time of the explosion.  Texas City and the areas near Galveston have had levees for a long time, and they use concrete walls in areas where there isn't room for an earthen dike, and sometimes there was a concrete wall at the core of an earthen levee.

Ron Merrick