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The Gateway to Oklahoma History Website (Making Corrections)

Bob Chaparro
 

The Gateway to Oklahoma History Website (Making Corrections)

As some of you know, I have posted railroad photographs from that website (https://gateway.okhistory.org/) on this group.

In some instances, the captions and descriptions have been questionable as the writers generally do not have the expertise and background of members on this group.

Yesterday I found such an instance of a mistaken caption for something about which I had better information. I submitted my information and the caption was corrected within twenty-four hours.

If you spot any mistakes in photo captions and descriptions, each photo is accompanied by a "Contact Us" box at the bottom which you can use to suggest a correction.

Bob Chaparro

 

Hemet, CA

 


Re: Photo: Brick Factory With Boxcars (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

A comment I received from another group and another continent.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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This is a brick factory in Mineral Wells TX, served by the Weatherford, Mineral Wells & Northwestern Ry. (what a name!)

Best regards,

Mario

Nerac

France


SFRD Questions

gary laakso
 

Here is a picture of a SFRD reefer:

 

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1944-May-Troop-Train-East/i-fGFffC8/A 

 

  1. Did all SFRD reefers have the ladder legs curl under the body and
  2. The uncoupling lever support is drilled over the push pole pocket was this common and I missed it?

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock


Re: New Decals announced

mopacfirst
 

Try this:

Ron Merrick


 


Re: Pool Car Distribution?

mopacfirst
 

This structure looks like it's on the west side (the town side) of the Santa Fe elevated ROW through downtown.  Best guess is that it's north of the Santa Fe station, which still exists at the southeast edge of downtown.  But broad swathes of OKC were urban renewed (demolished) in the 1960s so I'm sure this structure is gone.

Ron Merrick


Pool Car Distribution?

Bob Chaparro
 

Pool Car Distribution?

A photo from the Gateway To Oklahoma History website:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc1120661/m1/1/?q=Cold%20Storage

Photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

The sign on the building reads, "Pool Car Distribution".

Can someone elaborate on this?

Thanks.

Bonus: FGEX 14921 in the foreground.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


looking for a source for Youngstown early post war (wide seam panels) corrugated 7' opening doors for 10'6" double door boxcar project

Andy Carlson
 

I think the original poster mentioned a 1945 build date interim improved Youngstown door which is not made in 7' width by anyone. The 5/5/5 version was the famous SP "Overnight" door. Southwest made the 6' wide 5/6/5 version which was to my understanding used only by the Santa Fe, but again, only 6' wide and in 1945. I remember seeing a color steam era video which in passing a pair of these interim doors were visible in the train. It may have been one of the subject cars.

I know if I wanted a pair I know of a method which makes the visible joining sections nearly unseen.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Saturday, August 8, 2020, 4:40:49 PM PDT, Chad Boas via groups.io <chadboas@...> wrote:


I think I might have what you want. The C&WC DD rebuild has 2 7" doors with the 5-6-5 config.
Chad Boas
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Re: New Decals announced

hubert mask
 

I am having trouble downloadIng the critters.

Hubert 


On Aug 8, 2020, at 5:55 PM, BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@...> wrote:

I just realized I was responding to the STMFC group, not Mr. Mask directly. Mea cupla! I will try to be more alert in future.

 

 

Thanks!
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Brian Ehni

 

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Re: looking for a source for Youngstown early post war (wide seam panels) corrugated 7' opening doors for 10'6" double door boxcar project

Chad Boas
 

I think I might have what you want. The C&WC DD rebuild has 2 7" doors with the 5-6-5 config.
Chad Boas


Re: New Decals announced

 

I just realized I was responding to the STMFC group, not Mr. Mask directly. Mea cupla! I will try to be more alert in future.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 


Rock Island 40' PS-1 boxcar again

Bud Rindfleisch
 

A couple weeks ago, a photo of a Rock Island 40' PS-1 boxcar was posted, I missed whether the doors were 6' or 7', can anyone confirm or repost the pic? At least I think it was a PS-1, I know it was a 10' 6" IH car.
     Bud Rindfleisch


Re: Photo: Loading Oil (Undated - Early 1900s?)

Tony Thompson
 

Claus Schlund wrote:

Note that NONE of the tank cars come equipped with any sort of dome platform nor any real place for employees to stand while working on loading/unloading the cars. To make up for this shortcoming, every car has a plank of wood to serve as a walkway and a work platform bridging from the car to the loading area.

        I did love the somewhat precarious looking planks.

It is clear that the tank car closest to the camera has the tank secured to the underframe by a cable that encirles the dome. The rest of the cars in the photo might have a more 'modern' tank anchorage.

    It's not a cable, it's a rod, called a dome yoke, and is attached on both sides. It prevents rotation around the long axis of the tank. The invention of the center anchor obviated the need for these yokes.

Tony Thompson




Re: Photo: Loading Oil (Undated - Early 1900s?)

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Agree, Thanks, Bob.  UTLX 629 has a Bettendorf steel underframe circa 1903.  According to the 1919 tank car tariff, it had a capacity of 12062 gallons with a dome capacity of 232 gallons.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 1:46 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Loading Oil (Undated - Early 1900s?)

 

HI Bob,

 

Thanks for the fascinating photo. I'm thinking, if I fill in some blanks in the photo, that the car closest to the camera possibly maybe is UTLX 629.

 

Note that NONE of the tank cars come equipped with any sort of dome platform nor any real place for employees to stand while working on loading/unloading the cars. To make up for this shortcoming, every car has a plank of wood to serve as a walkway and a work platform bridging from the car to the loading area.

 

I'm impressed that the loading area's elevated wooden walkway does NOT seem to be all soaked with oil!

 

It is clear that the tank car closest to the camera has the tank secured to the underframe by a cable that encirles the dome. The rest of the cars in the photo might have a more 'modern' tank anchorage.

 

What a glimpse into life over a century ago

 

Claus Schlund

 

 

 

 

 

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Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2020 1:17 PM

Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Loading Oil (Undated - Early 1900s?)

 

Photo: Loading Oil (Undated - Early 1900s?)

A photo from the Gateway To Oklahoma History website:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc1593835/?q=loading

Photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

I'm guess the time period is early 1900s.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: looking for a source for Youngstown early post war (wide seam panels) corrugated 7' opening doors for 10'6" double door boxcar project

Richard Townsend
 

I went through my stash of old kits and found nothing. Front Range, McKean, C&BT, Branchline, etc. Plenty of 5-6-6 and 6-6-5, but no 5-6-5.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Brent Greer <studegator@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2020 11:52 am
Subject: [RealSTMFC] looking for a source for Youngstown early post war (wide seam panels) corrugated 7' opening doors for 10'6" double door boxcar project

I am hoping someone can help me with a project I am working on.  The car is a 1945 DD boxcar, 10'6" height cars with 14' door opening (two 7' doors) that were of the interim improved youngstown design with the 5-6-5 corrugations and the wide seams.  Can any of you point me to a source for suitable doors in HO scale (even if they might have been in a resin kit at some point)?  Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated.

Sincere thanks,
Brent

Dr. J. Brent Greer


Re: looking for a source for Youngstown early post war (wide seam panels) corrugated 7' opening doors for 10'6" double door boxcar project

mel perry
 

slice & dice?


On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 12:38 PM Brent Greer <studegator@...> wrote:
I did not find them on Kadee or Speedwitch.  The ones from SouthWest Scale are the right configuration, but only a 6' width vs. the 7' that I need.  I will check Yarmouth next  

Thanks,
Brent


Dr. J. Brent Greer


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 3:34 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] looking for a source for Youngstown early post war (wide seam panels) corrugated 7' opening doors for 10'6" double door boxcar project
 
Maybe Kadee, check the as well

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 3:33 PM O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:
Have you tired Speedwitch or Yarmouth Model works, I don't think SW Scale has one.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 2:52 PM Brent Greer <studegator@...> wrote:
I am hoping someone can help me with a project I am working on.  The car is a 1945 DD boxcar, 10'6" height cars with 14' door opening (two 7' doors) that were of the interim improved youngstown design with the 5-6-5 corrugations and the wide seams.  Can any of you point me to a source for suitable doors in HO scale (even if they might have been in a resin kit at some point)?  Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated.

Sincere thanks,
Brent

Dr. J. Brent Greer



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: looking for a source for Youngstown early post war (wide seam panels) corrugated 7' opening doors for 10'6" double door boxcar project

Brent Greer
 

I did not find them on Kadee or Speedwitch.  The ones from SouthWest Scale are the right configuration, but only a 6' width vs. the 7' that I need.  I will check Yarmouth next  

Thanks,
Brent


Dr. J. Brent Greer


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 3:34 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] looking for a source for Youngstown early post war (wide seam panels) corrugated 7' opening doors for 10'6" double door boxcar project
 
Maybe Kadee, check the as well

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 3:33 PM O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:
Have you tired Speedwitch or Yarmouth Model works, I don't think SW Scale has one.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 2:52 PM Brent Greer <studegator@...> wrote:
I am hoping someone can help me with a project I am working on.  The car is a 1945 DD boxcar, 10'6" height cars with 14' door opening (two 7' doors) that were of the interim improved youngstown design with the 5-6-5 corrugations and the wide seams.  Can any of you point me to a source for suitable doors in HO scale (even if they might have been in a resin kit at some point)?  Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated.

Sincere thanks,
Brent

Dr. J. Brent Greer



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Photo: Loading Oil (Undated - Early 1900s?)

earlyrail
 

<<possibly maybe is UTLX 629.
The UTLX reporting marks places it in the mid teens for later.
The requirement for the X did not appear until 1913

Howard Garner


Re: looking for a source for Youngstown early post war (wide seam panels) corrugated 7' opening doors for 10'6" double door boxcar project

O Fenton Wells
 

Maybe Kadee, check the as well


On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 3:33 PM O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:
Have you tired Speedwitch or Yarmouth Model works, I don't think SW Scale has one.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 2:52 PM Brent Greer <studegator@...> wrote:
I am hoping someone can help me with a project I am working on.  The car is a 1945 DD boxcar, 10'6" height cars with 14' door opening (two 7' doors) that were of the interim improved youngstown design with the 5-6-5 corrugations and the wide seams.  Can any of you point me to a source for suitable doors in HO scale (even if they might have been in a resin kit at some point)?  Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated.

Sincere thanks,
Brent

Dr. J. Brent Greer



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: looking for a source for Youngstown early post war (wide seam panels) corrugated 7' opening doors for 10'6" double door boxcar project

O Fenton Wells
 

Have you tired Speedwitch or Yarmouth Model works, I don't think SW Scale has one.


On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 2:52 PM Brent Greer <studegator@...> wrote:
I am hoping someone can help me with a project I am working on.  The car is a 1945 DD boxcar, 10'6" height cars with 14' door opening (two 7' doors) that were of the interim improved youngstown design with the 5-6-5 corrugations and the wide seams.  Can any of you point me to a source for suitable doors in HO scale (even if they might have been in a resin kit at some point)?  Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated.

Sincere thanks,
Brent

Dr. J. Brent Greer



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: New Decals announced

 

 

 

 

Thanks!
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Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Hubert Mask <maskisland@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 11:03 AM
To: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] New Decals announced

 

Shot me a photo please.  Or a reference.   I'll get on it.

 

Thank you.

 

Hubert


On Aug 8, 2020, at 11:52 AM, BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@...> wrote:

Meanwhile, still waiting after 5 years for these…

 

Thursday, June 18, 2015 at 8:01 AM

This is going on my locomotive list at the top.

Will see what I can do.  Trying to get ready for the St. Louis show.

Hubert

Mask Island Decals Inc.



Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 06:36:24 -0500
Subject: Re: [STMFC] SP Decals
From: bpehni@...
To: maskisland@...

Not SP, but HB&T. Since I was born in Houston, I’ve been interested in modeling a couple of HB&T SW1200s. Attached is the EMD paint diagram. It’s pretty straight forward: all yellow on a black loco.

 

I suspect that a few Houston-area modelers might also purchase sets, as this scheme has never been done before in HO to my knowledge (Herald King did the all yellow with herald and black letters).

 

Thanks!
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Brian Ehni

 

 

 

Thanks!
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Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Hubert Mask <maskisland@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Friday, August 7, 2020 at 9:37 PM
To: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] New Decals announced

 

 


Begin forwarded message:

From: maskisland@...
Date: August 7, 2020 at 10:26:13 PM EDT
To: STMFC@...
Subject: New Decals announced

Mask Island Decals Inc. is pleased to announce three new decal sets released.

KCS and Louisiana & Arkansas . Set provides the KCS and L&A together.

Also released Missouri Pacific early flat cars and panel side gondolas.  These sets are available through my site or through the Missouri Pacific Historical Society.

You may view these Decals on my web site.  Maskislanddecals.com.   Roads listed alphabetically under freight cars.

Thank you!
Mask Island Decals Inc.

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