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Re: Photos: Opened Doors Of PFE 5706 (1951)

David Soderblom
 

I’m guessing the containers were “experimental” because they were transitioning from wood crates.



David Soderblom
Baltimore MD USA







Re: SFRD Questions

Robert J Miller CFA
 

Gary,

 

I don’t know for certain, but I looked through the Santa Fe Society’s Refrigerator book to look for examples.

 

On the RR-8 (wood sides and ends) the ladders conform to the shape noted, however the uncoupling lever support is just to the right of the poling pocket and slightly above it. P 108 in the book

 

RR-19 rebuilds (metal sides and ends) the ladders conform to the shaped noted and the uncoupling lever support is above the poling pocket. P. 132 in the book.

 

RR-36 rebuilds (metal sides and ends) the ladders curl in at the top, but not at the bottom and the uncoupling lever support is below the poling pocket. P 148 in the book.

 

It looks like the answer will vary by the age and class of the cars. If you have a specific class of car in mind let me know and I will check the SFH&MS book.

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of gary laakso
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 10:08 AM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] SFRD Questions

 

Here is a picture of a SFRD reefer:

 

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1944-May-Troop-Train-East/i-fGFffC8/A 

 

  1. Did all SFRD reefers have the ladder legs curl under the body and
  2. The uncoupling lever support is drilled over the push pole pocket was this common and I missed it?

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock


Photo: C&A Boxcar 17440 (Circa 1932)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: C&A Boxcar 17440 (Circa 1932)

A photo from the Gateway To Oklahoma History website:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc1121607/?q=freight%20car

Photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: ATSF Boxcar 32402 (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: ATSF Boxcar 32402 (Undated)

A photo from the Gateway To Oklahoma History website:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc557703/m1/1/?q=flour

Photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Double-sheathed boxcar, possibly a Bx-O.

An unidentified Rock Island boxcar also appears in this photo.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photos: Opened Doors Of PFE 5706 (1951)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photos: Opened Doors Of PFE 5706 (1951)

A photo from the Gateway To Oklahoma History website:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc1122503/?q=fruit

Photos can be enlarged quite a bit.

There is a lot of information in this photo.

PFE 5706 is a Class R-40-23 car, first placed in service in 1947.

Note the stenciling on the doors and the printing on the boxes.

Blue Goose (American Fruit Growers Co-Op) Ventura Maid lemons in cardboard boxes. This 1951 date is a few years before Sunkist converted to cardboard shipping containers. Note the printing "One-Half Standard Box". This was the typical size when the packing houses converted to cardboard shipping containers.

Also note the printing "Experimental Container" on several boxes.

Another view:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc1118291/m1/1/?q=fruit

Stencil: "Floor Racks In This Car Not Safe For Lift Truck Operation"

Stencil: "Air Circulating Fans"

Ventura Maid lemons were packed by the Ventura Pacific Company in Montalvo (now Ventura), CA in a packing house served by the Southern Pacific.

Crate label, pre-cardboard box

http://www.venturapacific.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/venturamaid.jpg

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railroad Citrus Industry Modeling Group

https://groups.io/g/RailroadCitrusIndustryModelingGroup


Re: Pool Car Distribution?

Dennis Storzek
 

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 06:47 PM, Bob Chaparro wrote:

The sign on the building reads, "Pool Car Distribution".

Can someone elaborate on this?

I assume you are asking about the term "pool car" and not the building? I suspect it refers to the practice of a shipper loading freight for multiple customers on the same car, which was consigned to the cold storage warehouse where each customer could claim his portion of the shipment.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Pool Car Distribution?

Bob Chaparro
 

It's gone. As the description had an address I was able to do a Google Street View search.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: The Gateway to Oklahoma History Website (Making Corrections)

Kenneth Montero
 

Bob,

Thank you for helping make the historical records more accurate.

Ken Montero

On 08/09/2020 12:00 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


The Gateway to Oklahoma History Website (Making Corrections)

As some of you know, I have posted railroad photographs from that website (https://gateway.okhistory.org/) on this group.

In some instances, the captions and descriptions have been questionable as the writers generally do not have the expertise and background of members on this group.

Yesterday I found such an instance of a mistaken caption for something about which I had better information. I submitted my information and the caption was corrected within twenty-four hours.

If you spot any mistakes in photo captions and descriptions, each photo is accompanied by a "Contact Us" box at the bottom which you can use to suggest a correction.

Bob Chaparro


Hemet, CA



Re: New Decals announced

hubert mask
 

Thank you.


On Aug 9, 2020, at 9:21 AM, mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:

Try this:

Ron Merrick


 
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The Gateway to Oklahoma History Website (Making Corrections)

Bob Chaparro
 

The Gateway to Oklahoma History Website (Making Corrections)

As some of you know, I have posted railroad photographs from that website (https://gateway.okhistory.org/) on this group.

In some instances, the captions and descriptions have been questionable as the writers generally do not have the expertise and background of members on this group.

Yesterday I found such an instance of a mistaken caption for something about which I had better information. I submitted my information and the caption was corrected within twenty-four hours.

If you spot any mistakes in photo captions and descriptions, each photo is accompanied by a "Contact Us" box at the bottom which you can use to suggest a correction.

Bob Chaparro

 

Hemet, CA

 


Re: Photo: Brick Factory With Boxcars (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

A comment I received from another group and another continent.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

++++

This is a brick factory in Mineral Wells TX, served by the Weatherford, Mineral Wells & Northwestern Ry. (what a name!)

Best regards,

Mario

Nerac

France


SFRD Questions

gary laakso
 

Here is a picture of a SFRD reefer:

 

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1944-May-Troop-Train-East/i-fGFffC8/A 

 

  1. Did all SFRD reefers have the ladder legs curl under the body and
  2. The uncoupling lever support is drilled over the push pole pocket was this common and I missed it?

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock


Re: New Decals announced

mopacfirst
 

Try this:

Ron Merrick


 


Re: Pool Car Distribution?

mopacfirst
 

This structure looks like it's on the west side (the town side) of the Santa Fe elevated ROW through downtown.  Best guess is that it's north of the Santa Fe station, which still exists at the southeast edge of downtown.  But broad swathes of OKC were urban renewed (demolished) in the 1960s so I'm sure this structure is gone.

Ron Merrick


Pool Car Distribution?

Bob Chaparro
 

Pool Car Distribution?

A photo from the Gateway To Oklahoma History website:

https://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc1120661/m1/1/?q=Cold%20Storage

Photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

The sign on the building reads, "Pool Car Distribution".

Can someone elaborate on this?

Thanks.

Bonus: FGEX 14921 in the foreground.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


looking for a source for Youngstown early post war (wide seam panels) corrugated 7' opening doors for 10'6" double door boxcar project

Andy Carlson
 

I think the original poster mentioned a 1945 build date interim improved Youngstown door which is not made in 7' width by anyone. The 5/5/5 version was the famous SP "Overnight" door. Southwest made the 6' wide 5/6/5 version which was to my understanding used only by the Santa Fe, but again, only 6' wide and in 1945. I remember seeing a color steam era video which in passing a pair of these interim doors were visible in the train. It may have been one of the subject cars.

I know if I wanted a pair I know of a method which makes the visible joining sections nearly unseen.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Saturday, August 8, 2020, 4:40:49 PM PDT, Chad Boas via groups.io <chadboas@...> wrote:


I think I might have what you want. The C&WC DD rebuild has 2 7" doors with the 5-6-5 config.
Chad Boas
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Re: New Decals announced

hubert mask
 

I am having trouble downloadIng the critters.

Hubert 


On Aug 8, 2020, at 5:55 PM, BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@...> wrote:

I just realized I was responding to the STMFC group, not Mr. Mask directly. Mea cupla! I will try to be more alert in future.

 

 

Thanks!
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Brian Ehni

 

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Re: looking for a source for Youngstown early post war (wide seam panels) corrugated 7' opening doors for 10'6" double door boxcar project

Chad Boas
 

I think I might have what you want. The C&WC DD rebuild has 2 7" doors with the 5-6-5 config.
Chad Boas


Re: New Decals announced

 

I just realized I was responding to the STMFC group, not Mr. Mask directly. Mea cupla! I will try to be more alert in future.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 


Rock Island 40' PS-1 boxcar again

Bud Rindfleisch
 

A couple weeks ago, a photo of a Rock Island 40' PS-1 boxcar was posted, I missed whether the doors were 6' or 7', can anyone confirm or repost the pic? At least I think it was a PS-1, I know it was a 10' 6" IH car.
     Bud Rindfleisch

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