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Re: Photo: Fire Truck In A PM Boxcar (1950)

Kenneth Montero
 

The Proto 2000 Automobile boxcar may be a good stand-in for a more accurate model. The model had an automobile door on the "A" end, and double doors on each side.

Ken Montero

On 08/18/2020 2:39 PM nyc3001 . <nyc3001@...> wrote:


I wonder if there is any way to model this car in HO.

-Phil


Re: Photo: Fire Truck In A PM Boxcar (1950)

nyc3001 .
 

I wonder if there is any way to model this car in HO.

-Phil


Re: Photo: Fire Truck In A PM Boxcar (1950)

Bruce Smith
 

Yep, without them it looks kinda tricky to load or unload that fire truck!

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

On Aug 18, 2020, at 1:25 PM, akerboomk <ken-akerboom@...> wrote:

Note the end doors on the PM

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Ken Akerboom


Re: Photo: Fire Truck In A PM Boxcar (1950)

akerboomk
 

Note the end doors on the PM


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Ken Akerboom


Re: SEEKINGIF SUNSHINE INSTRUCTIONS

Brent Greer
 

30.12 ATSF ft-v  flat car

Brent

Dr. J. Brent Greer


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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SEEKINGIF SUNSHINE INSTRUCTIONS
 
What Sunshine kit are looking for instructions for?

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 1:39 PM Brent Greer <studegator@...> wrote:
Wow...  I have had this kit in my stash for a while, so I decided that I would be a hero and pull it out, scan the instructions and then share with everyone.  Guess what...  My kit did not have the PDS or any instructions at all...   

So when someone does find them, please include me among those who would like a copy.

Sincere thanks,
Brent


Dr. J. Brent Greer



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Re: SEEKINGIF SUNSHINE INSTRUCTIONS

O Fenton Wells
 

What Sunshine kit are looking for instructions for?


On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 1:39 PM Brent Greer <studegator@...> wrote:
Wow...  I have had this kit in my stash for a while, so I decided that I would be a hero and pull it out, scan the instructions and then share with everyone.  Guess what...  My kit did not have the PDS or any instructions at all...   

So when someone does find them, please include me among those who would like a copy.

Sincere thanks,
Brent


Dr. J. Brent Greer



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250 Frye Rd
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Re: What’s on my work bench

Ken Adams
 

Great idea.  Excellent bashing and a lot of work.  It's one of the laws of model railroading. On Facebook just after you posted your mod Jason Hill announced a 3 D printed tank insert for rectangular tenders: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10158358618303076&set=p.10158358618303076&type=3&theater

I have been working on a similar bash for the IHC 2-6-0 tender but all work involving glues and other volatile fluids has been suspended during the current heat wave.

Other SP C class tender bashes in progress in the background. 
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Ken Adams
Still in splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek


Re: Photo: Fire Truck In A PM Boxcar (1950)

Brent Greer
 

I also like the one coupled to the right of it, with the open sliding door all the way to the end of the car.  I seem to recall Seaboard (?) having some cars configured this way but I cannot identify the owner of this particular car myself.  Anyone else know whose it is?

Brent


Dr. J. Brent Greer


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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Fire Truck In A PM Boxcar (1950)
 

Photo: Fire Truck In A PM Boxcar (1950)

A photo from the California Revealed website:

https://californiarevealed.org/islandora/object/cavpp%3A28492

There appears to be blocking against the truck's wheel.

I assume chains would be used in addition to the blocking?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photos: Train Load Of Wine (Undated)

Tony Thompson
 

Bill Jolitz wrote:

I must wonder how that wine tasted after bouncing around in a hot tank car for two weeks.

      Three points. First, most wine shipping is in winter and spring. Second, this isn't table wine, it's blending wine in most cases. And third, the majority of wine shipments east were fortified wine, as Bruce mentioned, and that is pretty stable against spoilage.

Tony Thompson




Re: SEEKINGIF SUNSHINE INSTRUCTIONS

Brent Greer
 

Wow...  I have had this kit in my stash for a while, so I decided that I would be a hero and pull it out, scan the instructions and then share with everyone.  Guess what...  My kit did not have the PDS or any instructions at all...   

So when someone does find them, please include me among those who would like a copy.

Sincere thanks,
Brent


Dr. J. Brent Greer


Photo: Fire Truck In A PM Boxcar (1950)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Fire Truck In A PM Boxcar (1950)

A photo from the California Revealed website:

https://californiarevealed.org/islandora/object/cavpp%3A28492

There appears to be blocking against the truck's wheel.

I assume chains would be used in addition to the blocking?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: What's on my workbench

O Fenton Wells
 

Yessir Tom, me too only this time I brought in the master and she couldn't see it anyway.  I'm sure it will show up soon.  I bought 2 of them yesterday with free shipping


On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 1:18 PM Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

I can identify, Tom, I can identify.

 

Schuyler

 

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] What's on my workbench

 

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:14 AM, O Fenton Wells wrote:

i lost my HO scale ruler, I've had it since the early 1960's. Did any of you guys borrow it????

Fenton

I lose lots of tools, usually when they're in plain sight. They're right where they should be on my workbench, I just don't see them.

Tom Madden

 



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Re: What's on my workbench

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I can identify, Tom, I can identify.

 

Schuyler

 

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] What's on my workbench

 

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:14 AM, O Fenton Wells wrote:

i lost my HO scale ruler, I've had it since the early 1960's. Did any of you guys borrow it????

Fenton

I lose lots of tools, usually when they're in plain sight. They're right where they should be on my workbench, I just don't see them.

Tom Madden

 


Re: Southern Ry question

O Fenton Wells
 

What are you painting?  Diesel or steam?


On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 12:08 PM Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Does anyone have a Federal Spec (or a Pantone color match) for Southern green?

 

Schuyler

 



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Southern Ry question

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Does anyone have a Federal Spec (or a Pantone color match) for Southern green?

 

Schuyler

 


Re: Photos: Train Load Of Wine (Undated)

Bruce Smith
 

It's what gives it that magical essence, that terroir...

A number of years ago we discussed what was actually shipped. Most likely it was fermented wine, because unfermented grape juice runs the risk of fermenting in transit. It might have even been concentrated to some degree. After all, why pay to ship water. 

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photos: Train Load Of Wine (Undated)
 
I must wonder how that wine tasted after bouncing around in a hot tank car for two weeks.

Bill Jolitz


Re: Photos: Train Load Of Wine (Undated)

Pierre Oliver
 

With the right cheese... :-)

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 8/18/20 11:17 a.m., Bill J. via groups.io wrote:

I must wonder how that wine tasted after bouncing around in a hot tank car for two weeks.

Bill Jolitz


Re: Photos: Train Load Of Wine (Undated)

Bill J.
 

I must wonder how that wine tasted after bouncing around in a hot tank car for two weeks.

Bill Jolitz


Re: Photos: Train Load Of Wine (Undated)

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Bob and Friends,

I saved this photo to my desktop, and found that it is actually incredibly large, though you can't make it larger on the web page. 

The first tank car reads, "Bradford Winery, Lodi California; Choice California Wines. It is GATX 1363. It appears to have a reweigh date of "X 35" or "X 36", though even blown up the date is too fuzzy to read clearly. I am leaning toward 1936. The remaining two cars have no lettering showing because of the banner.

In the second photo, I was able to notice two more triples, one with Bradford lettering similar to the car behind #40's tender. The other appears to be quite stubby, maybe a 6K gallon car, with three domes the same size, probably over a riveted and un-jacketed tank. Neat little car. The two silver tanks Mel Perry asked about are GATX cars, possibly in the 5XXX-series. There are some vague differences in the underframes and the domes are of different sizes. They have no special lettering like the two Bradford cars.

The WP caboose appears to be 723, one of 8 cars built by WP in 1926 at their Jeffrey Shops in Sacramento to a Haskell & Barker design also used by the D&RGW and MP. (These were all Gould-owned railroads at one time and purchased similar equipment, but unlike the Harriman roads there was no such thing as a "Gould Standard", so please don't call them that). It has truss rods, but also a more modern steel underframe or center sill than the original all-wood H&B cars. According to P. Allen Copland's WP caboose list, this car was retired in 1948.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 7:23 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photos: Train Load Of Wine (Undated)

Photos from the California Revealed website:

https://californiarevealed.org/islandora/object/cavpp%3A112193

https://californiarevealed.org/islandora/object/cavpp%3A112194

Probably taken before or after Prohibition (January 1920 to December 1933), I would think.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photos: Train Load Of Wine (Undated)

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Bob,

Yes, the dating of the photo is incorrect. According to Guy Dunscomb's WESTERN PACIFIC STEAM LOCOMOTIVES, PASSENGER TRAIN AND CARS, the enameled Feather River Route herald did not appear until 1929. Low mounted Pyle headlights date from 1931. There were subtle changes to the herald over the years which might better pin the date, but the herald is too small to spot these differences (rounded vs. square corners for example).

Given that Prohibition ended on 5 December 1933, and the banner implies this is not the first shipment of wine to the East Coast, sometime 1934 must be our bottom date. The presence of dedicated wine tank cars also suggests that some time has passed since repeal. 

I sure wish the image was large enough to read what is on the triple-compartment car behind the locomotive. I suppose the original photo is available for examination at the CSRM (subject to covid restrictions), but I'm on the wrong coast to drop in and ask to see it. (Sigh!) Access to my museums featuring information on my favorite railroads is one of the few things I miss about not living in California anymore. Now back to sipping mint julips on the veranda at my genteel estate.



Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 7:23 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photos: Train Load Of Wine (Undated)

Photos from the California Revealed website:

https://californiarevealed.org/islandora/object/cavpp%3A112193

https://californiarevealed.org/islandora/object/cavpp%3A112194

Probably taken before or after Prohibition (January 1920 to December 1933), I would think.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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