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Re: WP 29' Coil Gondolas

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: WP Shorty Gondola 6497

For those of you who have an account with RailCar Photos, here is a photo taken by Ron Hawkins in 1973:

https://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=50888

I appreciate the photo date is well past the cut-off for this group but I thought some of you would still want to see this car.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


PRR X48 PS-1 sliding sill cushioning (again)

Curt Fortenberry
 


I've read through all the X48 topics that discuss the sliding sill cushioning on the PRR X48 PS-1's.  And whether or not it's the same as the PRR X29E's.  Has a drawing of the type PS used ever surfaced?  A photo?  The draft gear slot is different between the X29E and X48.  Thanks.

Curt Fortenberry


Re: WAB Postwar AAR DD Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #4

Bob Chapman
 

Scott McDonald writes:
Great photography too!  Do you do any photography clinics?  You clearly know what your doing (pun intended).


Wow, I've never been accused of being a photographer -- thanks! I'll give primary credit to the Denver sun, all 300+ annual days of it; I get much better results outside than inside. If I shoot when the sun is lower, I can get some lighting on the trucks, etc. I try to avoid very early or very late shooting, since it tends to mess up the colors. I sometimes do some minor Photoshop tweaking (usually "Lighten"), but mostly don't have to. The camera is nothing fancy -- a Nikon Coolpix.

Regards,
Bob Chapman   
 


Photos: N&W "Derrick Car" 4986 (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photos: N&W "Derrick Car" 4986 (Undated)

Photos from the Virginia Tech University Library:

https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=ns3297

https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=ns3300

These photos can be enlarged.

And 4966:

https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=ns3299

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Shoveling Ears Of Corn Into A Boxcar (Circa 1910)

Bob Chaparro
 
Edited

Photo: Shoveling Ears Of Corn Into A Boxcar (Circa 1910)

A photo from the Nebraska State Historical Society:

https://nebraskahistory.pastperfectonline.com/photo/EB2906D4-A317-4423-9489-033893331726

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Unless someone forgot to tell him where the side door was my guess is that he's just toping off the load.

I'm sure this was not unusual but it's the first photo I've seen, excepting lumber, of anyone loading through the inspection/lumber door.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Loading Ordnance Into A Boxcar? (Circa 1942)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Bob;

 

Yeah, looks like a box car interior to me, also.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

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Photo: Loading Ordnance Into A Boxcar? (Circa 1942)

A photo from the Nebraska State Historical Society:

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Click on the photo to enlarge it.

The description says this is a " small enclosed room". Perhaps a boxcar?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Fire Truck In A PM Boxcar (1950)

Guy Wilber
 




On Aug 22, 2020, at 8:24 AM, Don Valentine wrote:

Thanks for that observation Ken.  You may be correct but I’m not certain given that I can’t see as much in the shadows and cannot find such a car in Million & Paton’s Pere Marquette in Revenue Freight Cars book. If there is an end door that would be the easiest way to unload the firetruck. If not I’ll stick with the heavy duty floor jack under the differential.”

Ken is correct; There is absolutely no doubt that the car is equipped with end doors.  As for the number; this car was originally in the PM 91850-92349 series.  The car was obviously renumbered into the 55XXX series at some point prior to 1950 IF the photo information is correct.  

If one considers both the length and weight of the fire truck there is absolutely no way that fire truck would have been maneuvered through the 12’ wide side doors.  It was driven in through the end and was driven out as well.

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada




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Re: Under frame on F&C CV & GTW steel frame cars

Robert kirkham
 

Thanks Ken. The kits are 6485 CV && GTW extended rebuilt single door boxcar, and 6481 GTW single wood door autocrat 583200
Rob

On Aug 23, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Kenneth Montero <va661midlo@comcast.net> wrote:

Bob,

What are the kit numbers?

If either of the kits is kit no. 6650 or 6651, I have the kits, in kit form.
Let me know if that is the kit that you are seeking, so that I can open it to get the instructions and look for body bolsters.

Ken Montero





On 08/23/2020 5:05 PM Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@live.ca> wrote:


I’m completing two ancient kits - the F&C raised roof CV boxcar and the GTW/CV end door car. I notice in both cases there are no parts in the kit nor instructions about the body bolsters. The floor/underframe resin casting shows these as just rectangular lumps. I wonder if my kits are just missing parts? Can someone check their model?

I’m happy to make substitute pieces with sheet styrene etc., but need an idea a what I am trying to model. My prototype photo resources don’t peer under the cars with enough definition to help fill in this information. Do any of you have information about the prototype? Alternatively in a pinch I’m happy to work from someone else’s completed kit, - a snap shot would be a great help.

Rob Kirkham


Re: Under frame on F&C CV & GTW steel frame cars

Kenneth Montero
 

Bob,

What are the kit numbers?

If either of the kits is kit no. 6650 or 6651, I have the kits, in kit form.
Let me know if that is the kit that you are seeking, so that I can open it to get the instructions and look for body bolsters.

Ken Montero

On 08/23/2020 5:05 PM Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@live.ca> wrote:


I’m completing two ancient kits - the F&C raised roof CV boxcar and the GTW/CV end door car. I notice in both cases there are no parts in the kit nor instructions about the body bolsters. The floor/underframe resin casting shows these as just rectangular lumps. I wonder if my kits are just missing parts? Can someone check their model?

I’m happy to make substitute pieces with sheet styrene etc., but need an idea a what I am trying to model. My prototype photo resources don’t peer under the cars with enough definition to help fill in this information. Do any of you have information about the prototype? Alternatively in a pinch I’m happy to work from someone else’s completed kit, - a snap shot would be a great help.

Rob Kirkham


Under frame on F&C CV & GTW steel frame cars

Robert kirkham
 

I’m completing two ancient kits - the F&C raised roof CV boxcar and the GTW/CV end door car. I notice in both cases there are no parts in the kit nor instructions about the body bolsters. The floor/underframe resin casting shows these as just rectangular lumps. I wonder if my kits are just missing parts? Can someone check their model?

I’m happy to make substitute pieces with sheet styrene etc., but need an idea a what I am trying to model. My prototype photo resources don’t peer under the cars with enough definition to help fill in this information. Do any of you have information about the prototype? Alternatively in a pinch I’m happy to work from someone else’s completed kit, - a snap shot would be a great help.

Rob Kirkham


Re: WAB Postwar AAR DD Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #4

Robert kirkham
 

Thanks Bob - can’t argue with success!  I’m using Vallejo, but still find it useful to know about other paint choices.  It helps bridge some of the information lost when not being able to see a model in person.  

Rob

On Aug 22, 2020, at 4:36 PM, Robert Chapman <chapbob4014@...> wrote:

Rob Kirkham asks:
Am very curious to hear what paint/ colour you used for the faded boxcar red?

Rob --
Unless you're also a paint dinosaur, this probably won't be helpful. The car is Floquil Southern Freight Car Brown, with an overspray of Floquil Oxide Red. Lacking anything better, I continue to use the freight car color suggestions in RPCyc #3. 

Regards,
Bob Chapman




Re: Photo: Fire Truck In A PM Boxcar (1950)

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Zooming in on the number, it appears likely that it is a renumbering and the most likely candidate is a car from the 91850-92349 series built by Pressed Steel Car company.  In the July 1950 ORER there were only 317 of the 500 cars built with end doors remaining in that series while there had been 492 in 1945, before any cars entered the 55xxx series.  In the PM freight car book it says that the 55xxx series came from the 89350-90249, which were single sheathed auto cars, some of which were completely rebuit.

Steve Hile


Re: Photo: OR&N Boxcar 8155 - Furniture & Woodenware (Circa 1909)

Eric Hansmann
 

The chalk mark on the door is outstanding!


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Aug 23, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Photo: OR&N Boxcar 8155 - Furniture & Woodenware (Circa 1909)

A photo from the Nebraska State Historical Society:

https://nebraskahistory.pastperfectonline.com/photo/F8EBF381-FAA3-4602-9CD1-183190626026

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Suitable trucks for Sylvan CPR 1938, '40 and '42 auto boxcar

Kemal Mumcu
 

They look similar to a Barber S1,

Rapido has some one can pre-order.

Colin Meikle


Photo: OR&N Boxcar 8155 - Furniture & Woodenware (Circa 1909)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: OR&N Boxcar 8155 - Furniture & Woodenware (Circa 1909)

A photo from the Nebraska State Historical Society:

https://nebraskahistory.pastperfectonline.com/photo/F8EBF381-FAA3-4602-9CD1-183190626026

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Loading Ordnance Into A Boxcar? (Circa 1942)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Loading Ordnance Into A Boxcar? (Circa 1942)

A photo from the Nebraska State Historical Society:

https://nebraskahistory.pastperfectonline.com/photo/FA5FD581-A291-4EFA-80F3-807355016507

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

The description says this is a " small enclosed room". Perhaps a boxcar?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: WP 29' Coil Gondolas

Bob Chaparro
 

At the 2016 PCR/NMRA Convention in Modesto, CA, Bill Gilbert gave a very good presentation on WP steel coil gondolas.

His clinic covered the prototype history and modeling (HO scale) these Western Pacific 29-foot steel coil gondolas.

The PCR puts many of its clinics on line (http://pcrnmra.org/pcr/clinics/clinics.shtml) so I'm hoping Bill's clinic will be added to the list of offerings some day.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: WAB Postwar AAR DD Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #4

Ken Adams
 

Excellent color. I will need to experiment with the Tamiya Acrylic sprays and Vallejo brushed washes I use these days to match.  (Apartment life with a 10-20 mile wind on the deck, when I can go outside at all for the smoke and heat, precludes air brushing. I have to time the Tamiya sprays between gusts.)
--
Ken Adams
Still in splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek


Re: WAB Postwar AAR DD Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #4

Scott
 

Wonderful model!  Great photography too!  Do you do any photography clinics?  You clearly know what your doing (pun intended).

Scott McDonald 


Re: WAB Postwar AAR DD Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #4

Bob Chapman
 

Rob Kirkham asks:
Am very curious to hear what paint/ colour you used for the faded boxcar red?

Rob --
Unless you're also a paint dinosaur, this probably won't be helpful. The car is Floquil Southern Freight Car Brown, with an overspray of Floquil Oxide Red. Lacking anything better, I continue to use the freight car color suggestions in RPCyc #3. 

Regards,
Bob Chapman


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