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Re: Prototype Rails in Cocoa Beach, FL has been postponed

Paul R Greenwald
 

Jeff -

Thanks for the update.  Makes sense at the age most of have attained to be safe rather than sorry.

Paul R Greenwald 
PRRT&HS 1802
NMRA 129229 


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Paul R Greenwald 
PRRT&HS #1802
NMRA #129229


Photo: Reading 12343A

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Reading 12343A
Robert Wanner posted these photos on the Facebook Railroad Images Of Bygone Days site.

He commented, " 'To be used exclusively at Hershey, Pa.' So we have a wooden Cocoa bean boxcar 12343 A, the suffix meaning in special service. No doors so hatchbacks on roof and hopper discharge underneath. Dated 7/41, but not sure that's the Built date. Looks new in photo, but could be rebuilt in Reading Shops. Original covered hopper car? Wooden foot block on rail to prevent drifting for photo shoot. Looks like string of brand new (or rebuilt) coal hopper cars in background. Would make interesting model. Reading Company photos."

Interesting car. Anyone know its background?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Loading A Fire Truck

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Loading A Fire Truck

Eric Kurowski posted these photos on the Facebook Railroad Images Of Bygone Days site. I believe we've seen the photo of the entire boxcar before.
I imagine the fellow on the truck had to duck when the last few feet of the fire truck entered the boxcar.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


PFE Wood Ice Reefer Listings data

Dick Harley
 

In December 1959, PFE compiled two listings of their Wood ice reefers - one for cars still in service, and one for cars out of service.   Copies of those listings were obtained from the California State RR Museum Library in Sacramento, CA.   I have transcribed some of those listings into an Excel spreadsheet and sorted and summarized the data for various PFE classes.   The listings give previous car numbers for rebuilt cars, from which I have derived the previous class and underframe type.   Such info can influence modelers as to the ratio of Bettendorf to Built-Up underframes they have on their models - or pick accurate car numbers for each underframe type for the high-accuracy modeler.

Samples of the listings and those summaries that are done (classes R-30/40-18, R-30/40-19, R-30/40-21, and R-30/40-24) are presented at :
https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/PFE-FRT-DATA/PFE-Wood-Ice-Reefer-Rebuilds/
I am still working on other car classes, but it is tedious work and may be awhile before I get more done.   
For more info about PFE Wood Ice Reefer underframes, see: 
https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/PFETrainPhotos/PFE-Wood-Ice-Reefers/Bettendorf-vs-Built-Up/
If you would like a copy of the detailed Excel files, or want to help transcribe the data, contact me at:
Dick -dot- Harley4UP -at- verizon -dot- net


Enjoy,
Dick Harley
Laguna Beach,  CA




Re: Photo: Case Cub Tractor Emerging From An End Door Boxcar (Undated)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
Bob indicated that the image is undated. However, the file name is "6-1019-sam-Wallis-Cub-Rail-Car-1916-jpg.jpg" which makes me think it might be dated 1916 - does that year seem within the scope of possibility?
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Case Cub Tractor Emerging From An End Door Boxcar (Undated)

Photo: Case Cub Tractor Emerging From An End Door Boxcar (Undated)

https://tinyurl.com/y3qxb85r

A comment by Charlie Vlk:

"I’d bet that the car has been repainted for publicity purposes….I haven’t blown up the image and studied it in detail but it doesn’t look like there are any reporting marks or data and I doubt it was in interchange service.  A neat looking car none the less."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)

David
 

So, a completely??different question from looking at this picture:?? whose version of radial roof would this be, based upon the visible stampings as we see them from the underside?
Climax radial, N&W's favorite in the late 1920s and early 1930s.

David Thompson


Re: Prototype Rails in Cocoa Beach, FL has been postponed

George Corral
 

       Jeff wrote, "Cocoa Beach, Florida, has been postponed for January 2021. Please mark your calendars and plan to join us at the Cocoa Beach [Florida] Hilton on January 6 – 8, 2022."

Thanks, Jeff.  See you then!


Prototype Rails in Cocoa Beach, FL has been postponed

Aley, Jeff A
 

Prototype Rails postponed to January 6 - 8, 2022

 

Prototype Rails, normally held each January in Cocoa Beach, Florida, has been postponed.  The current Covid-19 pandemic makes it impossible for us to plan a safe, high-quality meet for January 2021. 

 

We are putting our efforts towards kicking off 2022 with the high-quality clinics, fellowship, vendors, and sunshine that you’ve come to expect.  Please mark your calendars and plan to join us at the Cocoa Beach [Florida] Hilton on January 6 – 8, 2022.

 

Stay safe, and we’ll see you at the Beach!

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff Aley,

Clinic Chairman, PR’22


Re: Flat Black

Todd Sullivan
 

Or try here ...

https://www.p-b-l.com/pdfs/Painting_&_Weathering_with_Star_Brand_Paints_150dpi.pdf

They also import Sn3 locos and equipment, and have a line of detail parts.

Todd Sullivan


Re: Flat Black

Jack Burgess
 

Try..

 

https://www.p-b-l.com/

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy Miller
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 2:38 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Flat Black

 

Tony,

 

Who is PBL ?   The only Star brand paint I  can find on the internet is an African company making house paint!

 

Regards,

 

Andy Miller

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 4:41 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Flat Black

 

Denny Anspach wrote:

 

Now that Testor’s (ModelMaster) have apparently left the hobby market (joining with MTH next April), what have listers been choosing for their solvent based paints, particularly flat black.  The Tamiya is excellent, but also the very flattest of any flat black imaginable. I have some Floquil left, but it is from the end of production, it never drys, and is -hesitantly- headed for the trash.

 

    You can still buy Scalecoat, or the Star Brand paint from PBL is very dependable. I find myself using it  more and more.

 

Tony Thompson

 

 

 


Re: Flat Black

Todd Sullivan
 

Jack -

MTH is Mike's Train House, a head-to-head competitor to Lionel in the tinplate realm which got into HO scale maybe a decade ago with interesting offerings such as SP AC-5 Cab Forwards, a slew of NYC Mohawks, and their own proprietary digital + sound system.  

Todd Sullivan
whose brother worked at Lionel at one point


Re: Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)

Tony Thompson
 

Bob Chaparro  wrote:

Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)
A photo from the Virginia Tech University Library:
This photo can be enlarged.
Can anyone identify the load restraining system?

  I don't think that's a boxcar system. It looks to me like they have strapped all the cartons together with steel strapping to hold them all together. I don't know that it's anchored to the car interior at all.

Tony Thompson




Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Good point, Tony!

 

That is one curious car.  Are those tie-downs on the side sill?

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)

 

Gatwood, Elden  wrote:



It does not look like a Viking, as the corrugations are not visible.  It has widely-spaced carlines, with intermediate stiffeners.  Didn’t NP have roofs like that on some classes?

 

     Remember that early Viking did not have corrugations.

 

Tony Thompson

 

 

 


Re: Flat Black

Todd Sullivan
 

Denny,

Tamiya also has a semi-gloss black in bottles and rattle cans.  It turns out to be a good match for some factory-painted models in terms of luster (e.g., P2K steam locos).

Todd Sullivan


Re: Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)

Tony Thompson
 

Gatwood, Elden  wrote:

It does not look like a Viking, as the corrugations are not visible.  It has widely-spaced carlines, with intermediate stiffeners.  Didn’t NP have roofs like that on some classes?

     Remember that early Viking did not have corrugations.

Tony Thompson




Re: Flat Black

Ralph W. Brown
 

Hi Denny,
 
like Scalecoat I, which I’ve getting either from Walthers or directly from Minutemen.
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 

From: Denny Anspach
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 4:21 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Flat Black
 
Now that Testor’s (ModelMaster) have apparently left the hobby market (joining with MTH next April), what have listers been choosing for their solvent based paints, particularly flat black.  The Tamiya is excellent, but also the very flattest of any flat black imaginable. I have some Floquil left, but it is from the end of production, it never drys, and is -hesitantly- headed for the trash.
 
Denny

Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento, CA 95864
 
 
 


Re: Flat Black

Tony Thompson
 

Who is PBL ?   The only Star brand paint I  can find on the internet is an African company making house paint!

  Try P-B-L or use this link: https://www.p-b-l.com/catalog/cfm/catalog.cfm

Tony Thompson




Re: Flat Black

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

    This shop buys and sells Floquil.

http://www.narrowgaugemodeling.com/floquil-paint/

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Flat Black

Tony Thompson
 

Originally it stood for Peter Built Locomotives (proprietor Bill Peter), in Ukiah, CA. Google Star Brand paint.
Tony Thompson 


On Aug 31, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Andy Miller <aslmmiller@...> wrote:



Tony,

 

Who is PBL ?   The only Star brand paint I  can find on the internet is an African company making house paint!

 

Regards,

 

Andy Miller

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 4:41 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Flat Black

 

Denny Anspach wrote:



Now that Testor’s (ModelMaster) have apparently left the hobby market (joining with MTH next April), what have listers been choosing for their solvent based paints, particularly flat black.  The Tamiya is excellent, but also the very flattest of any flat black imaginable. I have some Floquil left, but it is from the end of production, it never drys, and is -hesitantly- headed for the trash.

 

    You can still buy Scalecoat, or the Star Brand paint from PBL is very dependable. I find myself using it  more and more.

 

Tony Thompson

 

 

 


Re: Flat Black

Andy Miller
 

Tony,

 

Who is PBL ?   The only Star brand paint I  can find on the internet is an African company making house paint!

 

Regards,

 

Andy Miller

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 4:41 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Flat Black

 

Denny Anspach wrote:



Now that Testor’s (ModelMaster) have apparently left the hobby market (joining with MTH next April), what have listers been choosing for their solvent based paints, particularly flat black.  The Tamiya is excellent, but also the very flattest of any flat black imaginable. I have some Floquil left, but it is from the end of production, it never drys, and is -hesitantly- headed for the trash.

 

    You can still buy Scalecoat, or the Star Brand paint from PBL is very dependable. I find myself using it  more and more.

 

Tony Thompson

 

 

 

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