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Re: Teens and Twenties shipments of Ford cars via box cars
Here's what looks to me to be Studebakers "stuffed" into a Santa Fe drop bottom gondola. Think these autos only included everything from firewall back, i.e. no motor, body & chassis in front of it. Studebaker had a plant on Los Angeles Junction Ry till it closed in 1956. A fellow LAJ modeler. Tony Debates, made the Studebaker plant for his layout (attached). Andy Jackson Santa Fe Springs CA
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Re: New Precision Scale Co
I have purchased Precision Scale parts from their store on eBay, I don’t know if there is a significant price advantages or disadvantages to doing it this way, but their service is quick and accurate and you can see the part in its packaging.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Charles Morrill
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 1:52 PM To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] New Precision Scale Co
Their web site <precisionscaleco.com> has the contact info phone, email, as well as catalogs and price lists. As Nelson mentions only the family members are handling the business now, but they have responded to emails fairly quickly so far.
Charlie
From: "Nelson Moyer" <npmoyer@...>
Precision Scale Company 560 Ione Road Pasco, WA 99301
I don’t have the phone number, but they will accept phone orders. Due to COVID-19 restrictions, they’re employees are furloughed, but since it’s now a family business, they will fill orders for parts in stock. Expect a long wait.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Good Morning All:
I seem to have misplaced my contact for the hobby shop in Washington that is took over the Precision Scale line. Help please,
Thanks in advance:
Bill Pardie
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Santa Fe 5-5-5-2 ends
Allan Smith
In 2014 Greg Martin did a clinic on Santa Fe rebuilt boxcars, one of the detail parts was a 5-5-5-2 end. Does anyone in the group know where I can get two sets of those ends.I tried working with Tichy 5-5-5 ends by cutting them up and adding two ribs to the top, but they are a foot to tall. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Al Smith
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Re: New Precision Scale Co - also PIA parts
Kenneth Montero
They also have PIA (former PFM?) parts.
Ken Montero
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Teens and Twenties shipments of Ford cars via box cars
Here is a link to a lot of info and photos about the process:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/399443.html?1383834795 The autos were partially disassembled to fit more into each box car. Charley Hepperle
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Re: New Precision Scale Co
Charles Morrill
Their web site <precisionscaleco.com> has the contact info phone, email, as well as catalogs and price lists. As Nelson mentions only the family members are handling the business now, but they have responded to emails fairly quickly so far. Charlie
From: "Nelson Moyer" <npmoyer@...> To: "main" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 1:39:35 PM Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] New Precision Scale Co Precision Scale Company 560 Ione Road Pasco, WA 99301
I don’t have the phone number, but they will accept phone orders. Due to COVID-19 restrictions, they’re employees are furloughed, but since it’s now a family business, they will fill orders for parts in stock. Expect a long wait.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io]
On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Good Morning All:
I seem to have misplaced my contact for the hobby shop in Washington that is took over the Precision Scale line. Help please,
Thanks in advance:
Bill Pardie
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Re: New Precision Scale Co
mel perry
precision's phone is 5095289711 the.hobby shop is tj's model trains same address different phone good people mel perry
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Re: C&EI Postwar AAR 50' Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #5
Awesome Bob, love the finds you do in your "stash" Way too modern for me but what a neat car. Fenton
On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 1:00 PM Bob Chapman <chapbob4014@...> wrote:
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Re: New Precision Scale Co
Nelson Moyer
Precision Scale Company 560 Ione Road Pasco, WA 99301
I don’t have the phone number, but they will accept phone orders. Due to COVID-19 restrictions, they’re employees are furloughed, but since it’s now a family business, they will fill orders for parts in stock. Expect a long wait.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io]
On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2020 12:43 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] New Precision Scale Co
Good Morning All:
I seem to have misplaced my contact for the hobby shop in Washington that is took over the Precision Scale line. Help please,
Thanks in advance:
Bill Pardie
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Photo: LCL Freight In N&W Boxcar 46447 (1937)
Photo: LCL Freight In N&W Boxcar 46447 (1937) A photo from the Virginia Tech University Library: https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=ns2888 This photo can be enlarged. Perhaps more blocking and cribbing will be added? Should be added? Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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New Precision Scale Co
WILLIAM PARDIE
Good Morning All: I seem to have misplaced my contact for the hobby shop in Washington that is took over the Precision Scale line. Help please, Thanks in advance: Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Re: C&EI Postwar AAR 50' Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #5
Good looking car!
Thanks!
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chapman <chapbob4014@...>
Every layout needs a big blue boxcar! In 1955, C&EI acquired 75 fifty-foot class XM boxcars in the series #3800-3874. The carbodies featured welded sides, a diagonal panel roof, R-3-4 late improved dreadnaught ends, and 8’ postwar Youngstown postwar doors. An additional 25 nearly identical DF cars (#3760-3784) were built at the same time. In 1956, thirty cars from the #3800-series were reconfigured to class XAP and renumbered to #3900-3929. At some point the XAP’s were painted dark blue; logic would suggest 1956 when they were repurposed, but the earliest available blue car photo shows 1964.
Front Range kit #5000 hiding in the stash is a near-perfect carbody match, requiring only a sidesill modification from the kit’s deep fishbelly to a shallower notched configuration. Detail adds include Kadee ladders/grabs/brakewheel and a Detail Associates Apex runningboard. Decals are Microscale.
About the color – since 1955 is very borderline to my era, I had planned to do the car in as-built freight car red, but ended up with blue since 1) correct Roman roadname decals for the as-built cars do not seem to exist, and 2) I like it! Thanks to Ed Hawkins and C&EI modeler David Forbes for their technical help.
Regards, Bob Chapman
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C&EI Postwar AAR 50' Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #5
Bob Chapman
Every layout needs a big blue boxcar! In 1955, C&EI acquired 75 fifty-foot class XM boxcars in the series #3800-3874. The carbodies featured welded sides, a diagonal panel roof, R-3-4 late improved dreadnaught ends, and 8’ postwar Youngstown postwar doors. An additional 25 nearly identical DF cars (#3760-3784) were built at the same time. In 1956, thirty cars from the #3800-series were reconfigured to class XAP and renumbered to #3900-3929. At some point the XAP’s were painted dark blue; logic would suggest 1956 when they were repurposed, but the earliest available blue car photo shows 1964.
Front Range kit #5000 hiding in the stash is a near-perfect carbody match, requiring only a sidesill modification from the kit’s deep fishbelly to a shallower notched configuration. Detail adds include Kadee ladders/grabs/brakewheel and a Detail Associates Apex runningboard. Decals are Microscale.
About the color – since 1955 is very borderline to my era, I had planned to do the car in as-built freight car red, but ended up with blue since 1) correct Roman roadname decals for the as-built cars do not seem to exist, and 2) I like it! Thanks to Ed Hawkins and C&EI modeler David Forbes for their technical help.
Regards,
Bob Chapman
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Re: SNX 1609
Bill Welch
Personally I think the Accurail Running Boards are too thick and suggest using scale styrene strip or wood strip to make a new running board for a better scale effect.
Bill Welch
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Floquil Pants
Drew M.
I was in Doug's Trains and Hobbies today in Claymont, DE today and noticed he had a basket of Floquil paints marked down to a dollar a bottle or eleven bottles for $10. I'm an acrylic guy but I know some of you still pefer Floquil. His website is: Trains, Toys & Hobbies - model trains, planes, rockets, cars, railroads and books 2907 Concord Pike, Wilmington, DE 19803
and phone is 302.478.7733. Drew Marshall, Philly PA
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Re: New Posting NP Boxcar Build
gary laakso
Really fine work Gene! It will certainly be an easy car to spot in any train. The model shows that you have mastered the use of many materials and construction methods. Well done. Share some painted pictures of this jewel.
Gary Laakso Northwest of Mike Brock
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Deimling
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 12:45 PM To: stmfc <realstmfc@groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] New Posting NP Boxcar Build
Construction continues on my scratchbuilt P48 boxcar project.
Please take a look. Gene
-- Gene Deimling El Dorado Hills, CA
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Re: SNX 1609
Schuyler, what year are you modeling??? That will make a difference. In the 50's they were probably the same color as the roof, freight car red. When the roofs became silver the running boards aka roofwalks became the same color. Fenton
On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 6:59 PM Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote: Sorry, I do not know what a Roof Walk is. Oh, maybe you are referring to the Running Board which would have been sprayed Aluminum along the the roof. Don't forget to make the unique Hatch Rests used on all FGE/WFE/BRE/NX cars with the Hutchins roof. Fenton Wells covered these in his Hindsight 20/20 clinic recently. --
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Re: SNX 1609
Bill Welch
Sorry, I do not know what a Roof Walk is. Oh, maybe you are referring to the Running Board which would have been sprayed Aluminum along the the roof. Don't forget to make the unique Hatch Rests used on all FGE/WFE/BRE/NX cars with the Hutchins roof. Fenton Wells covered these in his Hindsight 20/20 clinic recently.
Bill Welch
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Re: SNX 1609
It appears the roof walk is the same color as the roof, with some body color overspray on the overhanging end of the roof walk
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 4:21 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SNX 1609
This is VERY helpful, Doug. One more question and I think I can be satisfied I’ll have a good pretty accurate model:
Is the “long rectangle pattern” roof walk painted silver or the same as the ends?
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
My understanding is that National Car Company was Fruit Grower’s answer for meat reefers. Wikipedia states: In February, 1928 FGE formed the National Car Company as a subsidiary to service the meat transportation market.
All photos I have of NX cars are leased to meat packers, or marked with meat rails for meat service. A photo of NX 3647 shows a wood sided reefer with metal running board (long rectangle pattern), and a lighter colored roof (BW photo). The car is lettered to be returned to CBQ at Galesburg and was weighed at PLT, ie Plattsmouth. Morrel, Kahns, & Rath used NX reefers.
Protocraft’s website offers this. The National Car Company was established in 1930 as a leasing subsidiary of the FGE. By 1940, NX had more than 1,600 reefers on its roster with many other reporting marks for their leased cars such as Oscar Mayer (OMX), Kingan & CO. (KRLX), E. Kahn (EKSX), Superior Packing (SPCX) and others. National operated into the 1960’s. Cars with the NX reporting marks were leased to the other company’s and railroads with signs on the side directing it’s return to the lessee.
https://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=859&Categoryid=21 https://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=1050&Categoryid=21
Doug Harding
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Re: SNX 1609
gary laakso
Those are O scale decals.
Gary Laakso Northwest of Mike Brock
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 2:21 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SNX 1609
This is VERY helpful, Doug. One more question and I think I can be satisfied I’ll have a good pretty accurate model:
Is the “long rectangle pattern” roof walk painted silver or the same as the ends?
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
My understanding is that National Car Company was Fruit Grower’s answer for meat reefers. Wikipedia states: In February, 1928 FGE formed the National Car Company as a subsidiary to service the meat transportation market.
All photos I have of NX cars are leased to meat packers, or marked with meat rails for meat service. A photo of NX 3647 shows a wood sided reefer with metal running board (long rectangle pattern), and a lighter colored roof (BW photo). The car is lettered to be returned to CBQ at Galesburg and was weighed at PLT, ie Plattsmouth. Morrel, Kahns, & Rath used NX reefers.
Protocraft’s website offers this. The National Car Company was established in 1930 as a leasing subsidiary of the FGE. By 1940, NX had more than 1,600 reefers on its roster with many other reporting marks for their leased cars such as Oscar Mayer (OMX), Kingan & CO. (KRLX), E. Kahn (EKSX), Superior Packing (SPCX) and others. National operated into the 1960’s. Cars with the NX reporting marks were leased to the other company’s and railroads with signs on the side directing it’s return to the lessee.
https://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=859&Categoryid=21 https://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=1050&Categoryid=21
Doug Harding
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