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Re: Teens and Twenties shipments of Ford cars via box cars

 

Here's what looks to me to be Studebakers "stuffed" into a Santa Fe drop bottom gondola. Think these autos only included everything from firewall back, i.e. no motor, body & chassis in front of it. Studebaker had a plant on Los Angeles Junction Ry till it closed in 1956.  A fellow LAJ modeler. Tony Debates,  made the Studebaker plant for his layout (attached).
Andy Jackson
Santa Fe Springs CA



Re: New Precision Scale Co

Steve and Barb Hile
 

I have purchased Precision Scale parts from their store on eBay, I don’t know if there is a significant price advantages or disadvantages to doing it this way, but their service is quick and accurate and you can see the part in its packaging.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Charles Morrill
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] New Precision Scale Co

 

Their web site <precisionscaleco.com> has the contact info phone, email, as well as catalogs and price lists.  As Nelson mentions only the family members are handling the business now, but they have responded to emails fairly quickly so far.

 

Charlie

 


From: "Nelson Moyer" <npmoyer@...>
To: "main" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 1:39:35 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] New Precision Scale Co

 

Precision Scale Company

560 Ione Road

Pasco, WA 99301

 

I don’t have the phone number, but they will accept phone orders. Due to COVID-19 restrictions, they’re employees are furloughed, but since it’s now a family business, they will fill orders for parts in stock. Expect a long wait.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2020 12:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] New Precision Scale Co

 

 

Good Morning All:

 

I seem to have misplaced my  contact for the hobby shop in Washington that is took over the Precision Scale line.  Help please,

 

Thanks in advance:

 

Bill Pardie

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

 

 

 

 

 


Santa Fe 5-5-5-2 ends

Allan Smith
 

In 2014 Greg Martin did a clinic on Santa Fe rebuilt boxcars, one of the detail parts was a 5-5-5-2 end. Does anyone in the group know where I can get two sets of those ends.I tried working with Tichy 5-5-5 ends by cutting them up and adding two ribs to the top, but they are a foot to tall. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks 

Al Smith


Re: New Precision Scale Co - also PIA parts

Kenneth Montero
 

They also have PIA (former PFM?) parts.

Ken Montero

On 09/04/2020 2:39 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:


Precision Scale Company

560 Ione Road

Pasco, WA 99301

 

I don’t have the phone number, but they will accept phone orders. Due to COVID-19 restrictions, they’re employees are furloughed, but since it’s now a family business, they will fill orders for parts in stock. Expect a long wait.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2020 12:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] New Precision Scale Co



Good Morning All:


I seem to have misplaced my  contact for the hobby shop in Washington that is took over the Precision Scale line.  Help please,


Thanks in advance:


Bill Pardie



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone



 

 




Teens and Twenties shipments of Ford cars via box cars

Charles
 

Here is a link to a lot of info and photos about the process:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/399443.html?1383834795

The autos were partially disassembled to fit more into each box car.

Charley Hepperle


Re: New Precision Scale Co

Charles Morrill
 

Their web site <precisionscaleco.com> has the contact info phone, email, as well as catalogs and price lists.  As Nelson mentions only the family members are handling the business now, but they have responded to emails fairly quickly so far.

Charlie


From: "Nelson Moyer" <npmoyer@...>
To: "main" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 1:39:35 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] New Precision Scale Co

Precision Scale Company

560 Ione Road

Pasco, WA 99301

 

I don’t have the phone number, but they will accept phone orders. Due to COVID-19 restrictions, they’re employees are furloughed, but since it’s now a family business, they will fill orders for parts in stock. Expect a long wait.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2020 12:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] New Precision Scale Co

 

 

Good Morning All:

 

I seem to have misplaced my  contact for the hobby shop in Washington that is took over the Precision Scale line.  Help please,

 

Thanks in advance:

 

Bill Pardie

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

 

 

 

 



Re: New Precision Scale Co

mel perry
 

precision's phone is 5095289711

the.hobby shop is tj's model trains
same address different phone

good people
mel perry


Re: C&EI Postwar AAR 50' Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #5

O Fenton Wells
 

Awesome Bob, love the finds you do in your "stash" Way too modern for me but what a neat car.
Fenton

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 1:00 PM Bob Chapman <chapbob4014@...> wrote:
Every layout needs a big blue boxcar! In 1955, C&EI acquired 75 fifty-foot class XM boxcars in the series #3800-3874. The carbodies featured welded sides, a diagonal panel roof, R-3-4 late improved dreadnaught ends, and 8’ postwar Youngstown postwar doors. An additional 25 nearly identical DF cars (#3760-3784) were built at the same time. In 1956, thirty cars from the #3800-series were reconfigured to class XAP and renumbered to #3900-3929. At some point the XAP’s were painted dark blue; logic would suggest 1956 when they were repurposed, but the earliest available blue car photo shows 1964.     

Front Range kit #5000 hiding in the stash is a near-perfect carbody match, requiring only a sidesill modification from the kit’s deep fishbelly to a shallower notched configuration. Detail adds include Kadee ladders/grabs/brakewheel and a Detail Associates Apex runningboard. Decals are Microscale.  

About the color – since 1955 is very borderline to my era, I had planned to do the car in as-built freight car red, but ended up with blue since 1) correct Roman roadname decals for the as-built cars do not seem to exist, and 2) I like it! Thanks to Ed Hawkins and C&EI modeler David Forbes for their technical help.        

Regards,
Bob Chapman




--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: New Precision Scale Co

Nelson Moyer
 

Precision Scale Company

560 Ione Road

Pasco, WA 99301

 

I don’t have the phone number, but they will accept phone orders. Due to COVID-19 restrictions, they’re employees are furloughed, but since it’s now a family business, they will fill orders for parts in stock. Expect a long wait.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2020 12:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] New Precision Scale Co

 

 

Good Morning All:

 

I seem to have misplaced my  contact for the hobby shop in Washington that is took over the Precision Scale line.  Help please,

 

Thanks in advance:

 

Bill Pardie

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

 

 

 

 


Photo: LCL Freight In N&W Boxcar 46447 (1937)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: LCL Freight In N&W Boxcar 46447 (1937)

A photo from the Virginia Tech University Library:

https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=ns2888

This photo can be enlarged.

Perhaps more blocking and cribbing will be added? Should be added?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


New Precision Scale Co

WILLIAM PARDIE
 


Good Morning All:

I seem to have misplaced my  contact for the hobby shop in Washington that is took over the Precision Scale line.  Help please,

Thanks in advance:

Bill Pardie


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone




 


Re: C&EI Postwar AAR 50' Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #5

 

Good looking car!

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chapman <chapbob4014@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Friday, September 4, 2020 at 11:59 AM
To: STMFC E-List <main@Realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] C&EI Postwar AAR 50' Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #5

 

Every layout needs a big blue boxcar! In 1955, C&EI acquired 75 fifty-foot class XM boxcars in the series #3800-3874. The carbodies featured welded sides, a diagonal panel roof, R-3-4 late improved dreadnaught ends, and 8’ postwar Youngstown postwar doors. An additional 25 nearly identical DF cars (#3760-3784) were built at the same time. In 1956, thirty cars from the #3800-series were reconfigured to class XAP and renumbered to #3900-3929. At some point the XAP’s were painted dark blue; logic would suggest 1956 when they were repurposed, but the earliest available blue car photo shows 1964.     

 

Front Range kit #5000 hiding in the stash is a near-perfect carbody match, requiring only a sidesill modification from the kit’s deep fishbelly to a shallower notched configuration. Detail adds include Kadee ladders/grabs/brakewheel and a Detail Associates Apex runningboard. Decals are Microscale.  

 

About the color – since 1955 is very borderline to my era, I had planned to do the car in as-built freight car red, but ended up with blue since 1) correct Roman roadname decals for the as-built cars do not seem to exist, and 2) I like it! Thanks to Ed Hawkins and C&EI modeler David Forbes for their technical help.        

 

Regards,

Bob Chapman

 

 


C&EI Postwar AAR 50' Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #5

Bob Chapman
 

Every layout needs a big blue boxcar! In 1955, C&EI acquired 75 fifty-foot class XM boxcars in the series #3800-3874. The carbodies featured welded sides, a diagonal panel roof, R-3-4 late improved dreadnaught ends, and 8’ postwar Youngstown postwar doors. An additional 25 nearly identical DF cars (#3760-3784) were built at the same time. In 1956, thirty cars from the #3800-series were reconfigured to class XAP and renumbered to #3900-3929. At some point the XAP’s were painted dark blue; logic would suggest 1956 when they were repurposed, but the earliest available blue car photo shows 1964.     

Front Range kit #5000 hiding in the stash is a near-perfect carbody match, requiring only a sidesill modification from the kit’s deep fishbelly to a shallower notched configuration. Detail adds include Kadee ladders/grabs/brakewheel and a Detail Associates Apex runningboard. Decals are Microscale.  

About the color – since 1955 is very borderline to my era, I had planned to do the car in as-built freight car red, but ended up with blue since 1) correct Roman roadname decals for the as-built cars do not seem to exist, and 2) I like it! Thanks to Ed Hawkins and C&EI modeler David Forbes for their technical help.        

Regards,
Bob Chapman



Re: SNX 1609

Bill Welch
 

Personally I think the Accurail Running Boards are too thick and suggest using scale styrene strip or wood strip to make a new running board for a better scale effect.

Bill Welch


Floquil Pants

Drew M.
 

I was in Doug's Trains and Hobbies today in Claymont, DE today and noticed he had a basket of Floquil paints marked down to a dollar a bottle or eleven bottles for $10. I'm an acrylic guy but I know some of you still pefer Floquil. His website is: Trains, Toys & Hobbies - model trains, planes, rockets, cars, railroads and books 2907 Concord Pike, Wilmington, DE 19803


and phone is 302.478.7733. 

Drew Marshall, Philly PA


Re: New Posting NP Boxcar Build

gary laakso
 

Really fine work Gene!  It will certainly be an easy car to spot in any train.  The model shows that you have mastered the use of many materials and construction methods.  Well done.  Share some painted pictures of this jewel.

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Deimling
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 12:45 PM
To: stmfc <realstmfc@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] New Posting NP Boxcar Build

 

 

Construction continues on my scratchbuilt P48 boxcar project. 

 

Please take a look. 

Gene 

 

--

Gene Deimling

El Dorado Hills, CA


Re: SNX 1609

O Fenton Wells
 

Schuyler, what year are you modeling???  That will make a difference.  In the 50's they were probably the same color as the roof, freight car red.  When the roofs became silver the running boards aka roofwalks became the same color.
Fenton

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 6:59 PM Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:
Sorry, I do not know what a Roof Walk is. Oh, maybe you are referring to the Running Board which would have been sprayed Aluminum along the the roof. Don't forget to make the unique Hatch Rests used on all FGE/WFE/BRE/NX cars with the Hutchins roof. Fenton Wells covered these in his Hindsight 20/20 clinic recently.

Bill Welch



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: SNX 1609

Bill Welch
 

Sorry, I do not know what a Roof Walk is. Oh, maybe you are referring to the Running Board which would have been sprayed Aluminum along the the roof. Don't forget to make the unique Hatch Rests used on all FGE/WFE/BRE/NX cars with the Hutchins roof. Fenton Wells covered these in his Hindsight 20/20 clinic recently.

Bill Welch


Re: SNX 1609

Douglas Harding
 

It appears the roof walk is the same color as the roof, with some body color overspray on the overhanging end of the roof walk

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 4:21 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SNX 1609

 

This is VERY helpful, Doug.  One more question and I think I can be satisfied I’ll have a good pretty accurate model:

 

Is the “long rectangle pattern” roof walk painted silver or the same as the ends?

Thanks for the links to the decals, too, as I have a use for both of those eventually.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2020 4:26 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SNX 1609

 

My understanding is that National Car Company was Fruit Grower’s answer for meat reefers. Wikipedia states: In February, 1928 FGE formed the National Car Company as a subsidiary to service the meat transportation market.

 

All photos I have of NX cars are leased to meat packers, or marked with meat rails for meat service. A photo of NX 3647 shows a wood sided reefer with metal running board (long rectangle pattern), and a lighter colored roof (BW photo). The car is lettered to be returned to CBQ at Galesburg and was weighed at PLT, ie Plattsmouth. Morrel, Kahns, & Rath used NX reefers.

 

Protocraft’s website offers this.

The National Car Company was established in 1930 as a leasing subsidiary of the FGE. By 1940, NX had more than 1,600 reefers on its roster with many other

reporting marks for their leased cars such as Oscar Mayer (OMX), Kingan & CO. (KRLX), E. Kahn (EKSX), Superior Packing (SPCX) and others. National operated

into the 1960’s. Cars with the NX reporting marks were leased to the other company’s and railroads with signs on the side directing it’s return to the lessee.

 

https://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=859&Categoryid=21

https://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=1050&Categoryid=21

 

 

 


Re: SNX 1609

gary laakso
 

Those are O scale decals. 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 2:21 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SNX 1609

 

This is VERY helpful, Doug.  One more question and I think I can be satisfied I’ll have a good pretty accurate model:

 

Is the “long rectangle pattern” roof walk painted silver or the same as the ends?

Thanks for the links to the decals, too, as I have a use for both of those eventually.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2020 4:26 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SNX 1609

 

My understanding is that National Car Company was Fruit Grower’s answer for meat reefers. Wikipedia states: In February, 1928 FGE formed the National Car Company as a subsidiary to service the meat transportation market.

 

All photos I have of NX cars are leased to meat packers, or marked with meat rails for meat service. A photo of NX 3647 shows a wood sided reefer with metal running board (long rectangle pattern), and a lighter colored roof (BW photo). The car is lettered to be returned to CBQ at Galesburg and was weighed at PLT, ie Plattsmouth. Morrel, Kahns, & Rath used NX reefers.

 

Protocraft’s website offers this.

The National Car Company was established in 1930 as a leasing subsidiary of the FGE. By 1940, NX had more than 1,600 reefers on its roster with many other

reporting marks for their leased cars such as Oscar Mayer (OMX), Kingan & CO. (KRLX), E. Kahn (EKSX), Superior Packing (SPCX) and others. National operated

into the 1960’s. Cars with the NX reporting marks were leased to the other company’s and railroads with signs on the side directing it’s return to the lessee.

 

https://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=859&Categoryid=21

https://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=1050&Categoryid=21

 

 

 

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