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Re: C&EI Postwar AAR 50' Boxcar – Front Range Upgrade #5

Michael Gross
 

Wow, how deep is that stash?!?  Nicely done, and keep 'em coming!
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Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: image from Homestead, PA in 1915

Alex Huff
 

The BR&P gon has what I think are "safety chains" on the end sill.  Three links are to the right of the coupler, two links and a hook are to the left.  Was this "system" ever an industry requirement?  If not, how widespread was it?  When was it discontinued or least no longer maintained.
   


Re: Photo: Gondola At Lumber Yard (Circa 1920s-1930s)

tbarney2004
 

Can't make out the lettering at the far end of the car, but per the reporting marks list from pwrr.org, CS should be Colorado Southern.  A close possibility may be:

CSCD	   CASCADE & COLUMBIA RIVER RAILROAD CO.

The only other close marks (the first 3 letters same) per that list is CSCX which would be an obvious difference.  The shape of letters D and O in the font used would be partly similar but still should be different enough to distinguish.  Thoughts? 


Tim Barney

-------- Original message --------
From: "Bob Chaparro via groups.io" <chiefbobbb@...>
Date: 9/5/20 11:28 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Gondola At Lumber Yard (Circa 1920s-1930s)

Photo: Gondola At Lumber Yard (Circa 1920s-1930s)

A photo from University of Utah Library:

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/ark:/87278/s6cv5566

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

I don't think this is a Colorado & Southern Railway gondola as the reporting marks are suspect.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Gondola At Lumber Yard (Circa 1920s-1930s)

Kenneth Montero
 

Carnegie Steel Co.

If I recall correctly, a different car with the same reporting marks previously appeared within the last few days.

Ken Montero

On 09/05/2020 11:28 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Photo: Gondola At Lumber Yard (Circa 1920s-1930s)

A photo from University of Utah Library:

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/ark:/87278/s6cv5566

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

I don't think this is a Colorado & Southern Railway gondola as the reporting marks are suspect.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Gondola At Lumber Yard (Circa 1920s-1930s)

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Bob,

Carnegie Steel Co. A car with similar lettering is shown in the 1931 CBC, page 239, or in Gregg Reprint No. 46.

No, this isn't a lumber yard. It is a steel stock yard, though I'm not sure whether it is the shipping point or the destination. 

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 11:36 AM Richard Townsend via groups.io <richtownsend=netscape.net@groups.io> wrote:
Definitely not Colorado & Southern. 


On Sep 5, 2020, at 8:28 AM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:



Photo: Gondola At Lumber Yard (Circa 1920s-1930s)

A photo from University of Utah Library:

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/ark:/87278/s6cv5566

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

I don't think this is a Colorado & Southern Railway gondola as the reporting marks are suspect.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Gondola At Lumber Yard (Circa 1920s-1930s)

Richard Townsend
 

Definitely not Colorado & Southern. 


On Sep 5, 2020, at 8:28 AM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:



Photo: Gondola At Lumber Yard (Circa 1920s-1930s)

A photo from University of Utah Library:

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/ark:/87278/s6cv5566

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

I don't think this is a Colorado & Southern Railway gondola as the reporting marks are suspect.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Loading Grain In A Refrigerator Car (1918)

Bob Chaparro
 

Loading Grain In A Refrigerator Car (1918)

A photo from the Utah State Historical Society:

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/ark:/87278/s6t445nf

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

I was well aware that this was not an uncommon practice but this is the first photograph I've seen illustrating the point.

Notice the grain door seen through the open reefer door and notice the ventilated boxcar in the cut of cars.

The month this photo was taken was June and the year was 1918, so the factors behind this were a grain rush, a resulting boxcar shortage and, in addition, government control of the national car fleet during World War I.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Gondola At Lumber Yard (Circa 1920s-1930s)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Gondola At Lumber Yard (Circa 1920s-1930s)

A photo from University of Utah Library:

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/ark:/87278/s6cv5566

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

I don't think this is a Colorado & Southern Railway gondola as the reporting marks are suspect.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Mid 1920s 3/3/3 dreadnaught end

Robert kirkham
 

Yes - I’m planning on doing one of each car type Colin.  The offset door cars and the centered door cars.

Rob

On Sep 5, 2020, at 6:43 AM, Kemal Mumcu via groups.io <kemal_mumcu@...> wrote:

I think I know the car you are thinking about. Is it the "minibox autocars" built around the same time as the regular minibox?

I always thought I'd take the spare dreadnought ends from the minibox kits, cut them up and reposition them to make the correct ends.

Colin Meikle


Want to buy Rio Grande Models #3038 side dump car HO

Staffan Ehnbom
 

A Swedish railroad had  three of these. A Swefdish modeler wants to have one on his layout. If you have a model for sale, please mail to
staffan dot ehnbom at gmail dot com  

Staffan Ehnbom


Re: Kit-bash fodder - Mid 1920s 3/3/3 dreadnaught end

Paul Krueger
 

I've bought a couple batches of shells from her through Facebook. The most recent batch of 12 shells was a couple weeks ago and she charged me $8.25 for Priority Mail shipping.

Paul Krueger
Seattle, WA


Re: Mid 1920s 3/3/3 dreadnaught end

Kemal Mumcu
 

I think I know the car you are thinking about. Is it the "minibox autocars" built around the same time as the regular minibox?

I always thought I'd take the spare dreadnought ends from the minibox kits, cut them up and reposition them to make the correct ends.

Colin Meikle


Re: Kit-bash fodder - Mid 1920s 3/3/3 dreadnaught end

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Rob,

If you need just one or two pieces, the $15 shipping charge makes this a rather expensive option. Order a pile of them, and maybe it's not so bad, but do any of us really need a whole stack of Roundhouse bodies in our workshops? I have more projects stockpiled than I will ever finish . . . but those combine bodies do look like they might be fun to shorten. Hmmm.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 2:52 AM Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
Going by the door, I would say that this is a 10'6" IH box car body.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Friday, September 4, 2020, 11:07:18 PM PDT, Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote:

  I’m curious whether anyone has the ability to speak to the car body height on the steel boxcar kit: 24188 ACL Coast line.  The photo doesn’t show dimensional data, so no clear info about the car interior height. Door and rivets on the side look alright.  I’m assuming it would require junking parts and finding others. Lots of work, but for the right model and $1, hmmm.

Rob 



Re: Kit-bash fodder - Mid 1920s 3/3/3 dreadnaught end

Andy Carlson
 

Going by the door, I would say that this is a 10'6" IH box car body.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Friday, September 4, 2020, 11:07:18 PM PDT, Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote:

  I’m curious whether anyone has the ability to speak to the car body height on the steel boxcar kit: 24188 ACL Coast line.  The photo doesn’t show dimensional data, so no clear info about the car interior height. Door and rivets on the side look alright.  I’m assuming it would require junking parts and finding others. Lots of work, but for the right model and $1, hmmm.

Rob 



Re: Flat Black

Tony Thompson
 

But Star Brand sticks to resin and Tru-color sure does not, thinners in common or not. And BTW Star thinner stays in its bottle, which is certainly not the case with TruC.
Tony Thompson 


On Sep 4, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Lee Thwaits <leeoldsa@...> wrote:

Using Star Brand paint I initially had a problem with some minor chipping over time.  Talking to Jimmy
Booth of PBL of the problem he told me that it is imperative that use their thinner with both TruColor and Star Brand paints because of a chemical compatibility with other thinners. Since using it I have had no problems (over 20 O scale cars).
Lee Thwaits


Kit-bash fodder - Mid 1920s 3/3/3 dreadnaught end

Robert kirkham
 

Thanks for the suggestion Paul.  I will be going with Andy Carlson's 3/3/3 end, rather than cutting up the Roundhouse car.  With a little more research I realized I needed 2/3/3 ends, so will have to make modifications.  Part of the fun.

That said, the Galloway site is a walk down memory lane.  And one starts to imagine other kinds of kit bash possibilities (especially clerestory baggage cars).   I’m curious whether anyone has the ability to speak to the car body height on the steel boxcar kit: https://squareup.com/store/gallowayenterprises/item/acl-coast-line.  The photo doesn’t show dimensional data, so no clear info about the car interior height. Door and rivets on the side look alright.  I’m assuming it would require junking parts and finding others. Lots of work, but for the right model and $1, hmmm.

Rob 

On Sep 4, 2020, at 9:40 PM, Paul Krueger <kruegerp12@...> wrote:

You can get Roundhouse shells here for $1 each, plus shipping.

http://www.gallowayenterprise.com/

Paul Krueger
Seattle, WA
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Re: Mid 1920s 3/3/3 dreadnaught end

Paul Krueger
 

You can get Roundhouse shells here for $1 each, plus shipping.

http://www.gallowayenterprise.com/

Paul Krueger
Seattle, WA


SP 5730 express 40' box car 1950 color image

Andy Carlson
 

Photographed in the city of Oakland, CA in 1950. Southern Pacific passenger green Railway Express Agency 40' Southern Pacific box car with alternating centered riveting. A scan from a Kodachrome slide I purchased 3-4 years ago.

Notice the poling pocket 3/4 improved Dreadnaught end. I have dozens of these ends remaining from Intermountain.
Enjoy,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

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Mid 1920s 3/3/3 dreadnaught end

Andy Carlson
 

Rob-
I have molds for the WP/MP/T&P SS double door autocar, same prototype as the MDC kit. Mine has no molded on grabs and brake gear. I could cast you a polyurethane pair if that could be helpful for you.

Contact me off-list if you are interested at <midcentury@...>.
Regards,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Friday, September 4, 2020, 7:28:45 PM PDT, Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote:



Looking for a part for a model part (HO scale) - an inward protruding dreadnaught end with 3/3/3 configuration.  The design is mid to late 1920s.

I’m wondering if I may need a sacrificial MDC roundhouse 50’ single sheathed car, but hoping there is something I do not need to destroy. 

If that is the best option, wondering if anyone knows where an undecorated model can be had.

Rob Kirkham 
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Mid 1920s 3/3/3 dreadnaught end

Robert kirkham
 


Looking for a part for a model part (HO scale) - an inward protruding dreadnaught end with 3/3/3 configuration.  The design is mid to late 1920s.

I’m wondering if I may need a sacrificial MDC roundhouse 50’ single sheathed car, but hoping there is something I do not need to destroy. 

If that is the best option, wondering if anyone knows where an undecorated model can be had.

Rob Kirkham 

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