Re: Proto 2000 Stock Car
Thanks everyone for your responses, they are very helpful. If the kit is still at my LHS, then I may get it. The general stock car practices are also useful. -Ray
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Re: Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series
René, As somebody that also has the Accurail 4300 body and have plans of turning that into a C&S prototype, this is some very good modeling. This will also be a useful guide for me. I haven't got far on my model, but I hope to get it nicely as yours. -Ray
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Dr. Denny Anspach, MD 1934-2020
Jack Burgess
I had long heard that Denny was heavily involved in the creation of the California State Railroad Museum which is confirmed by this account.
Jack Burgess
From: California State Railroad Museum Foundation [mailto:info@...]
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 11:39 AM To: jack@... Subject: In Memoriam: Dr. Denny Anspach, MD 1934-2020
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Re: Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series
Robert Allan
Excellent results. You have a steady hand. Turned out picture perfect.
Bob Allan Omaha
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Re: Murphy flat-panel roofs
Pierre Oliver
I have them in resin Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.com On 9/21/20 5:18 p.m., Richard Townsend
via groups.io wrote:
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Re: Proto 2000 Stock Car
Ray Breyer
Yes and no. Those original 40 foot Mather stock cars were stretched 36-footers, which they had too many of and which nobody wanted to lease. They started stretching them around 1928, but forgot that the center sills were a bit small (6" C channel, IIRC). They tended to sag a little too much, so Mather added two trussrods along the center sill to strengthen it (traditionally, trussrods are used to hold an all-wood BODY together, not a steel frame). By the early Depression years the stretched cars, and the newly built 40-footers, had a stronger underframe, and the trussrods were eliminated. I have a few photos of WWII-era Mather cars that still have the rods, mostly on long term lease C&NW cars. Ray Breyer Elgin, IL
On Monday, September 21, 2020, 06:08:54 AM CDT, Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:
[Edited Message Follows] Circa 1939 photos I own show L&N and CNW Mather stock cars with truss rod u/f.Bill Welch
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondola 350115 (Undated)
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Group;
For those that like their GR’s old, go dig up these from the Hagley. They are full of nice details.
Have any of you done a model of a shifted load for your operators to spot and set out? I loved confounding my operators with bad order cars, offal loads, shifted loads, and other such aggravations. One of my faves was a shifted structural steel load that was crawling out the dropped end threatening to go outside the clearance diagram of the idler flat.
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 4:06 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondola 350115 (Undated)
Hi Bob and List Members,
A wonderful photo of a PRR class GR composite gon. Note this car class was built with drop ends, and the dropped end nearest the camera does not look too good! Still lettered in early style center bar lettering, and also archbar trucks. Note the outside stake pockets, some of which were recently in use by all appearances.
Undated image, but perhaps an automobile historian could tell us something about the date based in the lovely vehicle in the background.
Note that the dimensional lumber at the lumberyard (at right) was stacked before the common use of forklifts - there are no spacers in the stacks of lumber to use as an entry point for the fork.
The string of mostly 36ft cars in the background is fun to look at as well! The obligatory NP boxcar is indeed present. I note the INTERCOLONIAL boxcar on the left, when did that lettering go away?
Claus Schlund
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Murphy flat-panel roofs
Richard Townsend
Does anyone know of a source, preferably in plastic, of Murphy flat-panel roofs in HO? These are like the diagonal-panel and rectangular-panel roofs, but without the raised panels (i.e. flat between the roof seam caps). Train Miniature had some cars with these roofs, but they are unusually narrow. Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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Re: Photo: PRR Gondola 350115 (Undated)
Eric Hansmann
I see a 13 in the weigh date stencil area of the LVAN panel.
Intercolonial was folded into the Canadian National in 1918.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 3:06 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondola 350115 (Undated)
Hi Bob and List Members,
A wonderful photo of a PRR class GR composite gon. Note this car class was built with drop ends, and the dropped end nearest the camera does not look too good! Still lettered in early style center bar lettering, and also archbar trucks. Note the outside stake pockets, some of which were recently in use by all appearances.
Undated image, but perhaps an automobile historian could tell us something about the date based in the lovely vehicle in the background.
Note that the dimensional lumber at the lumberyard (at right) was stacked before the common use of forklifts - there are no spacers in the stacks of lumber to use as an entry point for the fork.
The string of mostly 36ft cars in the background is fun to look at as well! The obligatory NP boxcar is indeed present. I note the INTERCOLONIAL boxcar on the left, when did that lettering go away?
Claus Schlund
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Re: Photo: PRR Gondola 350115 (Undated)
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Hi Bob and List Members,
A wonderful photo of a PRR class GR composite gon. Note this car class was
built with drop ends, and the dropped end nearest the camera does not look too
good! Still lettered in early style center bar lettering, and also archbar
trucks. Note the outside stake pockets, some of which were recently in use by
all appearances.
Undated image, but perhaps an automobile historian could tell us something
about the date based in the lovely vehicle in the background.
Note that the dimensional lumber at the lumberyard (at right) was stacked
before the common use of forklifts - there are no spacers in the stacks of
lumber to use as an entry point for the fork.
The string of mostly 36ft cars in the background is fun to look at as well!
The obligatory NP boxcar is indeed present. I note the INTERCOLONIAL boxcar on
the left, when did that lettering go away?
Claus Schlund
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Re: Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series
Looking good Rene' nice looking model Fenton
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 2:43 PM Rene LaVoise <rlavoise@...> wrote: Robert, --
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Re: Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series
Really nicely done Nelson, looks great Fenton
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 3:51 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:
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Re: RIP: Denny S. Anspach
Paul R Greenwald
A great loss for general model Railroading and RPM in particular.
-- Paul R Greenwald PRRT&HS #1802 NMRA #129229
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Dr. Denny Anspach, MD 1934-2020
Jack Burgess
I had long heard that Denny was heavily involved in the creation of the California State Railroad Museum which is confirmed by this account.
Jack Burgess
From: California State Railroad Museum Foundation [mailto:info@...]
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 11:39 AM To: jack@... Subject: In Memoriam: Dr. Denny Anspach, MD 1934-2020
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Re: Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series
Dennis Storzek
Really nice work on the C&S car. I see, like the Soo Line, the C&S didn't see any utility in applying a brake step.
I was familiar with at least some of the Q's single sheathed cars from the numerous car bodies that used to be on farms around here, twenty miles from the shops in Aurora, but having incomplete bodies is one thing, real builders drawings are better, and those came via Ken Goslett and Stafford Swain courtesy of the Canadian Railway Historical Society museum in Delson, PQ, so the basis for the Accurail car became a CN car. Back in those days whatever we did was going to be a stand-in for 99 out of a 100 road names anyway, but I wanted good drawings to get at least that 100th car right. If I could make one suggestion for an additional improvement, carve the back off the lower brake staff support. The prototype is really bent bar stock and the back edges should really be parallel to the outer edge. The part on the model became triangular to add some meat to make it less delicate and simplify tool construction. Dennis Storzek Accurail, Inc.
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Re: RIP: Denny S. Anspach
SamClarke
Another huge void left by a great man.
May God bless him and comfort his family.
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Re: Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series
Rene LaVoise
Robert,
After carving off the side ladders I used the back of a #11 Xacto blade to score the wood grain where the 'shadow' of the ladder was. Then went over the area with a scratch brush with metal bristles to help blend. The top bracket for the brake staff was an extra casting leftover from a Westerfield GN eight truss-rod boxcar. Before finding it in my parts box I had planned to use a bottom brake bracket from a Tichy brake set. -- René LaVoise Kirkwood, MO
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Re: Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series
Nelson Moyer
Beautiful build. The Accurail car body is very close to the original Speedwitch kit, except the Accurail body has the wood grain detail. The minor differences between the prototype and the Accurail body are in the door stops. The CB&Q removed the horizontal door brace when they added the slogan, and they added the top triangular reinforcement plates for the Z-bars about that time. I build the Sunshine kit as an XM-26, which is virtually identical to the XM-25, and the photo is attached for comparison with the Accurail body. Ted now offers an improved version of the Speedwitch kit, and I have two of them still in the boxes. They include the wood grain detail and other improvements.
Nelson Moyer
From:
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On Behalf Of Rene LaVoise
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Photo: PRR Gondola 350115 (Undated)
Photo: PRR Gondola 350115 (Undated) A photo from the Detroit Public Library: https://digitalcollections.detroitpubliclibrary.org/islandora/object/islandora%3A160440 Click and hold to enlarge photo. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: RIP: Denny S. Anspach
Tony Thompson
I am still processing the news abut Denny. I saw his historian and leadership roles while I served more than ten years on the Collections Committee of the California State Railroad Museum (which Denny had chaired from its inception), having been appointed through Denny's auspices. I am still on the committee.
But I think I first recognized the depths of his model railroading passions after one of the times I attended the Roseville model railroad show, a very big swap meet-type event held in November. Denny and Bob Church, who were good friends, used to get a table to sell off their surplus stuff, and I went a few times to add some of my own stuff to their sales. During the show, we would take turns visiting the other booths, and Denny soon returned with a totally decrepit, damaged and broken HO scale freight car, that he knew was a Varney paper-side kit. He was beside himself with joy, though I wasn't sure I understood why. Some time later I happened to visit Denny at his house, and he showed me that Varney car: carefully disassembled with acetone, cleaned up and all parts repaired and paint retouched, and then carefully reassembled, with more modern grab irons and sill steps. It looked quite good, and his joy was undiminished. That was Denny. Tony Thompson
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