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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Schuyler;

 

Can’t fault that reasoning!  Pittsburghers have always loved their Hershey bars!

 

Too bad we don’t have earlier and later photos of them unloading the car into a dray……

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 12:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)

 

Elden wrote:

 

Claus;

 

The obvious answer would be in iced reefers, but the presence of that Hersheys car in Pittsburgh begs the question, what was it doing THERE?

 

Well with the doors open on a team track, I’d say a load of something Hershey made was delivered.

 

I am always looking for more info on loads….

 

Aren’t we all . . .??

 

Schuyler (BTW, thanks for the responses on my question about this car)

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 10:13 AM

Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)

 

By the way, my information indicates that these cars were not used to transport chocolate bars, but were used to transport milk in 10 gal cans to the Hershey plant from outlying farms.  Hershey was (and may still be) the largest consumer of fresh milk in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.  Hershey owned the farms and leased them to farmers who, in turn, sold all their milk to Hershey.  Hershey would inspect the farms regularly for sanitation.


Re: Photo: Gas Storage Tank On Boston & Maine Flat Car (1920)

Dave Parker
 

We discussed this photo at some length four years ago -- see message 144771.

The B&M had 6 of these 60-ft, 30-ton flat cars in 1919.  Down to one by 6/27, gone by 7/28.

--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: Atlas USRA rebuilt boxcars(6400 series)

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Ben, I was afraid of that.


On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 11:06 AM Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:
Fenton Wells asked:
"Does anyone know what IH (Internal height) these cars are supposed to represent?"

9 ft IH.  Model has 5/5/5 or 7/8 Murphy ends, indicating a rebuilt car that retained its original height; unfortunately, the details of these cars don't match any specific prototype.  It's a much more expensive analogue of the Athearn 50 ft plug door RBL.


Ben Hom



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Re: Photo: GATX 31197 & 54877 At DuPont Plant (1940)

Steve Summers
 

No, that was Methyl Isocyanate in Bophal.  Nevertheless Hydrogen Cyanide is nasty.


On Sep 29, 2020, at 12:11 PM, David Wiggs <bigwiggs@...> wrote:

Notice the picture caption says Hydrogen Cyanide.  Seriously doubt that since the guy on the tanker has no respiratory protection.  It was a hydrogen cyanide disaster at a Union Carbide plant that killed a bunch of people in Boupol, India in the 80s (?).


Photo: PRR Rail Test Car 2349 (1917)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: PRR Rail Test Car 2349 (1917)

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/PRR_ME04213?solr_nav%5Bid%5D=09ee8df9adabeb9b8110&solr_nav%5Bpage%5D=4&solr_nav%5Boffset%5D=13

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi List Members,
 
There is also this model from Con-Cor...
 
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)

I have an HO Branchline Hershey reefer kit in the “chocolate” scheme, like this one:

 

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/branchline-trains-ho-40-acf-urtx-428889793

 

Attached is a photo of a modern Hershey RBL (copied from feeBay), outside the scope of this group, but may be of interest to some.

 

Steve Johnson

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Sykes III via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)

 

Years ago, Tyco or AHM or the likes had a Hershey wood reefer.  I saw one at a show several years ago and grabbed it for $2.00 for the novelty.  Turns out that the road number was accurate, HERX 1038.  Built by ACF for Hersheys.  The car has a 7/18 build date and 6/38 reweigh date on it.  I have no idea if they are accurate.  I added some weight and put Kadee trucks and couplers on it and put it into service on my layout.  Note that this car would have been seen more often on the Reading than on my Mid-state PRR layout since Hershey, PA was serviced by Reading (there was a passenger station on or immediately adjacent to the Hershey property).


Photo: Gas Storage Tank On Boston & Maine Flat Car (1920)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Gas Storage Tank On Boston & Maine Flat Car (1920)

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/72360_0654?solr_nav%5Bid%5D=d166fd3d618911c491a7&solr_nav%5Bpage%5D=1&solr_nav%5Boffset%5D=8

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Notice the blocking.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)

Steven D Johnson
 

I have an HO Branchline Hershey reefer kit in the “chocolate” scheme, like this one:

 

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/branchline-trains-ho-40-acf-urtx-428889793

 

Attached is a photo of a modern Hershey RBL (copied from feeBay), outside the scope of this group, but may be of interest to some.

 

Steve Johnson

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Sykes III via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)

 

Years ago, Tyco or AHM or the likes had a Hershey wood reefer.  I saw one at a show several years ago and grabbed it for $2.00 for the novelty.  Turns out that the road number was accurate, HERX 1038.  Built by ACF for Hersheys.  The car has a 7/18 build date and 6/38 reweigh date on it.  I have no idea if they are accurate.  I added some weight and put Kadee trucks and couplers on it and put it into service on my layout.  Note that this car would have been seen more often on the Reading than on my Mid-state PRR layout since Hershey, PA was serviced by Reading (there was a passenger station on or immediately adjacent to the Hershey property).


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Elden wrote:

 

Claus;

 

The obvious answer would be in iced reefers, but the presence of that Hersheys car in Pittsburgh begs the question, what was it doing THERE?

 

Well with the doors open on a team track, I’d say a load of something Hershey made was delivered.

 

I am always looking for more info on loads….

 

Aren’t we all . . .??

 

Schuyler (BTW, thanks for the responses on my question about this car)

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 10:13 AM

Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)

 

By the way, my information indicates that these cars were not used to transport chocolate bars, but were used to transport milk in 10 gal cans to the Hershey plant from outlying farms.  Hershey was (and may still be) the largest consumer of fresh milk in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.  Hershey owned the farms and leased them to farmers who, in turn, sold all their milk to Hershey.  Hershey would inspect the farms regularly for sanitation.

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Re: Photo: GATX 31197 & 54877 At DuPont Plant (1940)

David Wiggs
 

Notice the picture caption says Hydrogen Cyanide.  Seriously doubt that since the guy on the tanker has no respiratory protection.  It was a hydrogen cyanide disaster at a Union Carbide plant that killed a bunch of people in Boupol, India in the 80s (?).


Re: Atlas USRA rebuilt boxcars(6400 series)

Benjamin Hom
 

Fenton Wells asked:
"Does anyone know what IH (Internal height) these cars are supposed to represent?"

9 ft IH.  Model has 5/5/5 or 7/8 Murphy ends, indicating a rebuilt car that retained its original height; unfortunately, the details of these cars don't match any specific prototype.  It's a much more expensive analogue of the Athearn 50 ft plug door RBL.


Ben Hom


Atlas USRA rebuilt boxcars(6400 series)

O Fenton Wells
 

Does anyone know what IH(Internal height) these cars are supposed to represent?
Thanks
Fenton


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Claus;

 

The obvious answer would be in iced reefers, but the presence of that Hersheys car in Pittsburgh begs the question, what was it doing THERE?

 

I am always looking for more info on loads….

 

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 10:33 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)

 

Hi John and List Members,

 

Thanks John for the good info.

 

This does raise the question though... if the cars were NOT used to transport chocolate bars, then what WERE the chocolate bars transported in? Chocolate in an ordinary boxcar in the July sun - I don't even want to think about it!

 

Claus Schlund

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 10:13 AM

Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)

 

By the way, my information indicates that these cars were not used to transport chocolate bars, but were used to transport milk in 10 gal cans to the Hershey plant from outlying farms.  Hershey was (and may still be) the largest consumer of fresh milk in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.  Hershey owned the farms and leased them to farmers who, in turn, sold all their milk to Hershey.  Hershey would inspect the farms regularly for sanitation.


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi John and List Members,
 
Thanks John for the good info.
 
This does raise the question though... if the cars were NOT used to transport chocolate bars, then what WERE the chocolate bars transported in? Chocolate in an ordinary boxcar in the July sun - I don't even want to think about it!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)

By the way, my information indicates that these cars were not used to transport chocolate bars, but were used to transport milk in 10 gal cans to the Hershey plant from outlying farms.  Hershey was (and may still be) the largest consumer of fresh milk in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.  Hershey owned the farms and leased them to farmers who, in turn, sold all their milk to Hershey.  Hershey would inspect the farms regularly for sanitation.


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)

John Sykes III
 

By the way, my information indicates that these cars were not used to transport chocolate bars, but were used to transport milk in 10 gal cans to the Hershey plant from outlying farms.  Hershey was (and may still be) the largest consumer of fresh milk in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.  Hershey owned the farms and leased them to farmers who, in turn, sold all their milk to Hershey.  Hershey would inspect the farms regularly for sanitation.


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)

John Sykes III
 

Years ago, Tyco or AHM or the likes had a Hershey wood reefer.  I saw one at a show several years ago and grabbed it for $2.00 for the novelty.  Turns out that the road number was accurate, HERX 1038.  Built by ACF for Hersheys.  The car has a 7/18 build date and 6/38 reweigh date on it.  I have no idea if they are accurate.  I added some weight and put Kadee trucks and couplers on it and put it into service on my layout.  Note that this car would have been seen more often on the Reading than on my Mid-state PRR layout since Hershey, PA was serviced by Reading (there was a passenger station on or immediately adjacent to the Hershey property).


Re: Cocoa beach 2019 help. DCC speakers.

Gary Bechdol
 

Brian:

Try Rick Bell at DCC Installs and Sales.

Gary Bechdol
Stone Mountain, GA

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:25 PM Brian Carlson via groups.io <prrk41361=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Add cocoa beach in 2019 was a gentleman from Georgia, I believe, who had a clinic on speakers in DCC and was selling some very large in the vendors room. I’m trying to remember who it was. I had a business card or notes originally but I have missplaced them. Hoping someone on here remembers.

Brian J. Carlson






Cocoa beach 2019 help. DCC speakers.

Brian Carlson
 

Add cocoa beach in 2019 was a gentleman from Georgia, I believe, who had a clinic on speakers in DCC and was selling some very large in the vendors room. I’m trying to remember who it was. I had a business card or notes originally but I have missplaced them. Hoping someone on here remembers.

Brian J. Carlson


Aluminum Sleeve Bearings in STMFC

Matt Goodman
 

All, on another list I subscribe to, there was a discussion of a triangle symbol painted on cars that had lubricating journal pads installed (this was the N&W).

One respondent briefly noted that during a period when the railroad was aggressively seeking reductions in hotboxes on fast tidewater-bound coal trains, they tried various experimental journal devices, one of which was an aluminum sleeve bearing that was applied to some covered hoppers.

I’d be much obliged if someone is able to provide some background on how these functioned, specifically how they were lubricated.

Matt Goodman
Columbus, Ohio, US


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)

Jack Mullen
 

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 12:09 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:
There is little I can see to tell us where this yard is
As Eric said, the answer is in the descriptive info. There's a bit more info, (and more photos) if you go to the actual Cornell site:
https://digital.library.cornell.edu/catalog/ss:20434277
   Title:   Rutherford Yards   Collection:  U.S. President's Railroad Commission Photographs   Set:   Reading Railroad: Rutherford Yards and Steelton Industries   Date:   1960   Site:   Harrisburg, PAYou can use the links to see the entire set or the whole collection.  The photos in the collection are generally well identified, as they were evidence in a labor dispute.Jack Mullen

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