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Re: ADVICE FROM THE ESTEEMED GENTLEMAN OF STMFC...

Mansell Peter Hambly
 

Thank you Jim.

 

Mansell

 

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From: James Brewer
Sent: October 9, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ADVICE FROM THE ESTEEMED GENTLEMAN OF STMFC...

 

Mr. Hambly,

I can't comment on Mr. White's book; but regarding decals I have had good success using Microscale Liquid Decal Film.  The directions on the bottle indicate to wait 15 minutes for it to dry before proceeding with your normal decaling procedure; you may want to put an extra coat or two over the initial coat and let dry overnight.  Good luck!

Jim Brewer

 


Re: ADVICE FROM THE ESTEEMED GENTLEMAN OF STMFC...

James Brewer
 

Mr. Hambly,

I can't comment on Mr. White's book; but regarding decals I have had good success using Microscale Liquid Decal Film.  The directions on the bottle indicate to wait 15 minutes for it to dry before proceeding with your normal decaling procedure; you may want to put an extra coat or two over the initial coat and let dry overnight.  Good luck!

Jim Brewer


ADVICE FROM THE ESTEEMED GENTLEMAN OF STMFC...

Mansell Peter Hambly
 

What decal solution should I use to preserve and apply to old decals and I do mean OLD.

I just acquired White's THE GREAT YELLOW FLEET and I faintly recall that this books has some questionable assumptions in it. I would like to know just what caution I should implement when I read this book.

Thank you gentlemen.

Mansell Peter Hambly
COQUITLAM, B.C. CANADA


Re: Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks to all who gave me input
Much appreciated
Fenton

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 5:21 PM Kenneth Montero <va661midlo@...> wrote:
Eastern Car Works made some (no.9052). Richard Hendrickson's article shows that the kit can be built with either coil or leaf springs.

LaBelle Woodworking has the former Behlehem Car Works Taylor coil springs trucks (no.521). Bethlehem Car Works had the leaf spring version (no. 1218) that was sold to LaBelle, but it has yet to show up on LaBelle's website.

Ken Montero
On 10/09/2020 4:24 PM O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


I wish Tahoe made Taylor trucks.  Does anybody?  
Fenton

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:28 AM Ben Sullivan < ben.sullivan75@...> wrote:
Just a minor side note, the RDG 100053 boxcar is of interest to me, only by coincidence. I model and research the Georgetown Branch of the B&O, with my layout set ca 1945-55. In one of the rare steam era photos I have in my files there is a car from the same series; RDG 100225. According to  http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/rdg102751main.html these cars were from the same series of 500 cars built 3/25 by ACF, class XMt.

Here is the photo, May 30, 1956, Bethesda, MD, by R. Mumford.
http://gallery.sluggyjunx.com/railroad_and_industrial/georgetownbranch/gb_prototype_photos/r_mumford_collection/mumford-b-w_prints/35
(click to embiggen)

As a modeler, of course, I'm interested in representing this on my layout so the search is on for me to find out more about these cars in the HO scale space. Anyway, thank you for sharing! 

--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD
http://sluggyjunx.com/rr/gb/





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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

Kenneth Montero
 

Eastern Car Works made some (no.9052). Richard Hendrickson's article shows that the kit can be built with either coil or leaf springs.

LaBelle Woodworking has the former Behlehem Car Works Taylor coil springs trucks (no.521). Bethlehem Car Works had the leaf spring version (no. 1218) that was sold to LaBelle, but it has yet to show up on LaBelle's website.

Ken Montero

On 10/09/2020 4:24 PM O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


I wish Tahoe made Taylor trucks.  Does anybody?  
Fenton

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:28 AM Ben Sullivan < ben.sullivan75@...> wrote:
Just a minor side note, the RDG 100053 boxcar is of interest to me, only by coincidence. I model and research the Georgetown Branch of the B&O, with my layout set ca 1945-55. In one of the rare steam era photos I have in my files there is a car from the same series; RDG 100225. According to  http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/rdg102751main.html these cars were from the same series of 500 cars built 3/25 by ACF, class XMt.

Here is the photo, May 30, 1956, Bethesda, MD, by R. Mumford.
http://gallery.sluggyjunx.com/railroad_and_industrial/georgetownbranch/gb_prototype_photos/r_mumford_collection/mumford-b-w_prints/35
(click to embiggen)

As a modeler, of course, I'm interested in representing this on my layout so the search is on for me to find out more about these cars in the HO scale space. Anyway, thank you for sharing! 

--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD
http://sluggyjunx.com/rr/gb/





--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks, I may have to add a Reading car that didn't use the Taylors, Maybe some good old fashion Athearn(😂) Betterdorfs


On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 4:32 PM Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Fenton;

 

I had a set of Taylor trucks in my truck box for a long time before giving them to a devout RDG modeler who kept begging me.  I didn’t think the quality of them was very good, but I know someone did make them in HO.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:25 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

 

I wish Tahoe made Taylor trucks.  Does anybody?  

Fenton

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:28 AM Ben Sullivan <ben.sullivan75@...> wrote:

Just a minor side note, the RDG 100053 boxcar is of interest to me, only by coincidence. I model and research the Georgetown Branch of the B&O, with my layout set ca 1945-55. In one of the rare steam era photos I have in my files there is a car from the same series; RDG 100225. According to Blockedhttp://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/rdg102751main.html these cars were from the same series of 500 cars built 3/25 by ACF, class XMt.

Here is the photo, May 30, 1956, Bethesda, MD, by R. Mumford.
Blockedhttp://gallery.sluggyjunx.com/railroad_and_industrial/georgetownbranch/gb_prototype_photos/r_mumford_collection/mumford-b-w_prints/35
(click to embiggen)

As a modeler, of course, I'm interested in representing this on my layout so the search is on for me to find out more about these cars in the HO scale space. Anyway, thank you for sharing! 

--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD
Blockedhttp://sluggyjunx.com/rr/gb/


 

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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: HO Scale Taylor Trucks [was Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)]

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Ben, I knew about the Eastern Car works but wasn't impressed with their other trucks.  Thanks for the feed back
Fenton

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 4:32 PM Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:
Fenton Wells asked:
"I wish Tahoe made Taylor trucks.  Does anybody?"

Eastern Car Works did in styrene; Bethlehem Car Works did both coil spring (#1217) and leaf spring (#1218) versions in white metal.  This line of trucks has been sold to LaBelle.


Ben Hom



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Thanks, Garth!

 

I had forgotten who made them.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:40 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

 

Elden and Friends,

 

The Taylor coil spring trucks are now offered by LaBelle Woodworking: Blockedhttps://www.labellemodels.com/freight-trucks-c-32_34_56.html?osCsid=eplro7n7l77phcv404bfpgp4g4 . It is the last item on this page. These were formerly marketed by Bethlehem Car Works, and actually (I think) go all the way back to the old Red Ball days. Yes, they are a bit crude, but AFAIK they are the only game in town. At least you will not have to add quite so much weight to a freight car.  :~)

 

Yours Aye,

 

 

Garth Groff  🦆

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 4:32 PM Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Fenton;

 

I had a set of Taylor trucks in my truck box for a long time before giving them to a devout RDG modeler who kept begging me.  I didn’t think the quality of them was very good, but I know someone did make them in HO.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:25 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

 

I wish Tahoe made Taylor trucks.  Does anybody?  

Fenton

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:28 AM Ben Sullivan <ben.sullivan75@...> wrote:

Just a minor side note, the RDG 100053 boxcar is of interest to me, only by coincidence. I model and research the Georgetown Branch of the B&O, with my layout set ca 1945-55. In one of the rare steam era photos I have in my files there is a car from the same series; RDG 100225. According to BlockedBlockedhttp://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/rdg102751main.html these cars were from the same series of 500 cars built 3/25 by ACF, class XMt.

Here is the photo, May 30, 1956, Bethesda, MD, by R. Mumford.
BlockedBlockedhttp://gallery.sluggyjunx.com/railroad_and_industrial/georgetownbranch/gb_prototype_photos/r_mumford_collection/mumford-b-w_prints/35
(click to embiggen)

As a modeler, of course, I'm interested in representing this on my layout so the search is on for me to find out more about these cars in the HO scale space. Anyway, thank you for sharing! 

--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD
BlockedBlockedhttp://sluggyjunx.com/rr/gb/


 

--

Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Elden and Friends,

The Taylor coil spring trucks are now offered by LaBelle Woodworking: https://www.labellemodels.com/freight-trucks-c-32_34_56.html?osCsid=eplro7n7l77phcv404bfpgp4g4 . It is the last item on this page. These were formerly marketed by Bethlehem Car Works, and actually (I think) go all the way back to the old Red Ball days. Yes, they are a bit crude, but AFAIK they are the only game in town. At least you will not have to add quite so much weight to a freight car.  :~)

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 4:32 PM Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Fenton;

 

I had a set of Taylor trucks in my truck box for a long time before giving them to a devout RDG modeler who kept begging me.  I didn’t think the quality of them was very good, but I know someone did make them in HO.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:25 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

 

I wish Tahoe made Taylor trucks.  Does anybody?  

Fenton

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:28 AM Ben Sullivan <ben.sullivan75@...> wrote:

Just a minor side note, the RDG 100053 boxcar is of interest to me, only by coincidence. I model and research the Georgetown Branch of the B&O, with my layout set ca 1945-55. In one of the rare steam era photos I have in my files there is a car from the same series; RDG 100225. According to Blockedhttp://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/rdg102751main.html these cars were from the same series of 500 cars built 3/25 by ACF, class XMt.

Here is the photo, May 30, 1956, Bethesda, MD, by R. Mumford.
Blockedhttp://gallery.sluggyjunx.com/railroad_and_industrial/georgetownbranch/gb_prototype_photos/r_mumford_collection/mumford-b-w_prints/35
(click to embiggen)

As a modeler, of course, I'm interested in representing this on my layout so the search is on for me to find out more about these cars in the HO scale space. Anyway, thank you for sharing! 

--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD
Blockedhttp://sluggyjunx.com/rr/gb/


 

--

Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


HO Scale Taylor Trucks [was Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)]

Benjamin Hom
 

Fenton Wells asked:
"I wish Tahoe made Taylor trucks.  Does anybody?"

Eastern Car Works did in styrene; Bethlehem Car Works did both coil spring (#1217) and leaf spring (#1218) versions in white metal.  This line of trucks has been sold to LaBelle.


Ben Hom


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Fenton;

 

I had a set of Taylor trucks in my truck box for a long time before giving them to a devout RDG modeler who kept begging me.  I didn’t think the quality of them was very good, but I know someone did make them in HO.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:25 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

 

I wish Tahoe made Taylor trucks.  Does anybody?  

Fenton

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:28 AM Ben Sullivan <ben.sullivan75@...> wrote:

Just a minor side note, the RDG 100053 boxcar is of interest to me, only by coincidence. I model and research the Georgetown Branch of the B&O, with my layout set ca 1945-55. In one of the rare steam era photos I have in my files there is a car from the same series; RDG 100225. According to Blockedhttp://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/rdg102751main.html these cars were from the same series of 500 cars built 3/25 by ACF, class XMt.

Here is the photo, May 30, 1956, Bethesda, MD, by R. Mumford.
Blockedhttp://gallery.sluggyjunx.com/railroad_and_industrial/georgetownbranch/gb_prototype_photos/r_mumford_collection/mumford-b-w_prints/35
(click to embiggen)

As a modeler, of course, I'm interested in representing this on my layout so the search is on for me to find out more about these cars in the HO scale space. Anyway, thank you for sharing! 

--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD
Blockedhttp://sluggyjunx.com/rr/gb/


 

--

Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

O Fenton Wells
 

I wish Tahoe made Taylor trucks.  Does anybody?  
Fenton

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:28 AM Ben Sullivan <ben.sullivan75@...> wrote:
Just a minor side note, the RDG 100053 boxcar is of interest to me, only by coincidence. I model and research the Georgetown Branch of the B&O, with my layout set ca 1945-55. In one of the rare steam era photos I have in my files there is a car from the same series; RDG 100225. According to http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/rdg102751main.html these cars were from the same series of 500 cars built 3/25 by ACF, class XMt.

Here is the photo, May 30, 1956, Bethesda, MD, by R. Mumford.
http://gallery.sluggyjunx.com/railroad_and_industrial/georgetownbranch/gb_prototype_photos/r_mumford_collection/mumford-b-w_prints/35
(click to embiggen)

As a modeler, of course, I'm interested in representing this on my layout so the search is on for me to find out more about these cars in the HO scale space. Anyway, thank you for sharing! 

--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD
http://sluggyjunx.com/rr/gb/



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Photo: California Dispatch Line Tank Cars At Winery (Circa 1915)

Tony Thompson
 

Bob Chaparrowrote:

Photo: California Dispatch Line Tank Cars At Winery (Circa 1915)
A photo from the Sonoma County Library:

    CDLX 728 and 740. CDL served the California wine industry for decades with leased cars, until selling the fleet to GATC in the 1950s.

Tony Thompson




Flush Door

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

https://digital.hagley.org/PRR_08699?solr_nav%5Bid%5D=82dcb14158a4ca0f3675&solr_nav%5Bpage%5D=0&solr_nav%5Boffset%5D=12

 

I may have missed some of the discussion (computer probs).

 

Did you see this?

 

Elden Gatwood


Re: HO kit wanted

Bob Chapman
 

Re F&C -- I've talked with Sharon three times since early August re getting replacement decals omitted from a F&C kit. In the most recent a few weeks ago, she mentioned that her mother is seriously ill and moving to hospice. She may need some space; the model can wait.

Bob Chapman 


Photo: San Francisco & North Pacific Railroad Boxcars (Circa 1900)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: San Francisco & North Pacific Railroad Boxcars (Circa 1900)

A photo from the Sonoma County Library:

https://digital.sonomalibrary.org/Documents/Detail/san-francisco-and-north-pacific-rail-cars-in-petaluma-california-about-1900/84431

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Only a fair quality photo.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: California Dispatch Line Tank Cars At Winery (Circa 1915)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: California Dispatch Line Tank Cars At Winery (Circa 1915)

A photo from the Sonoma County Library:

https://digital.sonomalibrary.org/Documents/Detail/loading-tank-cars-at-petaluma-california-plant-of-lachman-jacobi-1915/87093

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Fair quality photo.

A previous post on CDL:

https://realstmfc.groups.io/g/main/message/80161?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,CDL,20,2,0,17221021

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

 

Just a minor side note, the RDG 100053 boxcar is of interest to me, only by coincidence. I model and research the Georgetown Branch of the B&O, with my layout set ca 1945-55. In one of the rare steam era photos I have in my files there is a car from the same series; RDG 100225. According to http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/rdg102751main.html these cars were from the same series of 500 cars built 3/25 by ACF, class XMt.

Here is the photo, May 30, 1956, Bethesda, MD, by R. Mumford.
http://gallery.sluggyjunx.com/railroad_and_industrial/georgetownbranch/gb_prototype_photos/r_mumford_collection/mumford-b-w_prints/35
(click to embiggen)

As a modeler, of course, I'm interested in representing this on my layout so the search is on for me to find out more about these cars in the HO scale space. Anyway, thank you for sharing! 

--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD
http://sluggyjunx.com/rr/gb/


Re: Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
RDG 100053 was a 40ft steel car RDG class XMt. It would have been fairly new at the time of this photo.
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

Photo from the Science History Institute:

https://digital.sciencehistory.org/works/8w32r666s/viewer/cn69m512g

Click and scroll to enlarge.

Also Reading boxcar 100053.

TCWX are the reporting marks for Charles Lennig & Company

The company evidently had a Baldwin locomotive:

https://digitalcollections.smu.edu/digital/collection/rwy/id/2900/

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Orange NP Wood Reefers

radiodial868
 

Thanks guys, that is actually good news.  Reason I am interested is that I fully kitbashed 3 Accurail NP Reefers.  I screwed up one paint job, and in a moment of brainfartness I painted it (#90062) with Reefer Orange. At least it wasn't PFE Daylight Orange!  It does look Orange when next to the original yellow (Yellowstone paint scheme).  End result is it looks much like that reefer string on 602 East.   I'm going to go with that story!  I'll go ahead and finish them up now and post a pic.
-------------------
RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA'

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