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Photos: Magor Car ASX 6758 (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photos: Magor Car ASX 6758 (Undated)

Photos from the SMU Libraries:

https://digitalcollections.smu.edu/digital/collection/rwy/id/3236/rec/57

https://digitalcollections.smu.edu/digital/collection/rwy/id/3256/rec/32

Scroll on the photos to enlarge them.

American Smelting & Refining Co. car with open top.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Storzek & Des Plaines 1916 NYC Auto Box Cars/Richard Stoving

bongiovanni12001
 

Richard Stoving is very much alive and I hope to confirm this on the NYCSHS conference call tomorrow.  We are more than pleased to have his knowledge and humor.  

Frank Bongiovanni


Re: Storzek & Des Plaines 1916 NYC Auto Box Cars

Mark Rossiter
 

The LATE Richard Stoving?  I was not aware he passed.  If true, that is sad news indeed!

 

Mark Rossiterr

 

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Re: ADVICE FROM THE ESTEEMED GENTLEMAN OF STMFC...

Mansell Peter Hambly
 

Thank you Tony.

 

Mansell

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Tony Thompson
Sent: October 9, 2020 5:00 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ADVICE FROM THE ESTEEMED GENTLEMAN OF STMFC...

 

Mansell Peter Hambly wrote:



I just acquired White's THE GREAT YELLOW FLEET and I faintly recall that this books has some questionable assumptions in it. I would like to know just what caution I should implement when I read this book.

 

      The good news is that Jack White did a great job with the book HE wrote. The bad news is that he had Donald Duke for his publisher. Duke (understandably) didn't like the manuscript tailing off around 1930, so added the later chapters. They are filled with semi-facts and outright errors. Duke also "embellished" the entire book with additional photos, again understandable to make it more attractive, and there are some fine images, but many of his captions are laughable.

       So be careful with any "facts" after 1930 in the book, and do not trust any photo captions. If you want more perspective, both Richard Hendrickson and I wrote separate reviews of the book, and both were published in magazines.

 

Tony Thompson

 

 

 

 


SOLD: HO WP 1916 built 40' SS box car resin parts

Andy Carlson
 

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This latest offered pair of WP box car castings has been sold. Thanks STMFC!
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Friday, October 9, 2020, 4:13:08 PM PDT, Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:


Last month I made the offer posted below. I reduced the price based on the car sides having a slight inward curvature. A skilled modeler could heat up the sides and straighten out the sides. I have more parts available to re-offer the same set of castings.









Hello-



Re: ADVICE FROM THE ESTEEMED GENTLEMAN OF STMFC...

Tony Thompson
 

Mansell Peter Hambly wrote:

I just acquired White's THE GREAT YELLOW FLEET and I faintly recall that this books has some questionable assumptions in it. I would like to know just what caution I should implement when I read this book.

      The good news is that Jack White did a great job with the book HE wrote. The bad news is that he had Donald Duke for his publisher. Duke (understandably) didn't like the manuscript tailing off around 1930, so added the later chapters. They are filled with semi-facts and outright errors. Duke also "embellished" the entire book with additional photos, again understandable to make it more attractive, and there are some fine images, but many of his captions are laughable.
       So be careful with any "facts" after 1930 in the book, and do not trust any photo captions. If you want more perspective, both Richard Hendrickson and I wrote separate reviews of the book, and both were published in magazines.

Tony Thompson




Offered again: HO WP 1916 built 40' SS box car resin parts

Andy Carlson
 

Last month I made the offer posted below. I reduced the price based on the car sides having a slight inward curvature. A skilled modeler could heat up the sides and straighten out the sides. I have more parts available to re-offer the same set of castings.

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Hello-

I have been preparing a return to offering a select few resin HO box cars. The tooling for this HO box car was made over 20 years ago.

I have enough parts for two of these WP box cars.

The buyer will get the following parts for two cars:

4 SS sides
2 plain ends
2 ends with lumber doors
2 roofs (Newly re-tooled to correct drawing errors)
Several roof support cross ties
2 underframes
2 sets of underframe cross members and cross ties

The sides will need to be warmed up to correct a slight inward curvature

Because of the sides I am reducing the price for these 2 cars.
Purchase both cars with shipping for $85.00

No paint, decals, trucks brake equipment are included.
I have just the two to be offered and are sold as a pair.

I accept checks or money orders. With a small fee I accept PayPal.

Contact me at <midcentury@...> of list please.

Thanks,
-Andy





Re: ADVICE FROM THE ESTEEMED GENTLEMAN OF STMFC...

Mansell Peter Hambly
 

Thank you Jim.

 

Mansell

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: James Brewer
Sent: October 9, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ADVICE FROM THE ESTEEMED GENTLEMAN OF STMFC...

 

Mr. Hambly,

I can't comment on Mr. White's book; but regarding decals I have had good success using Microscale Liquid Decal Film.  The directions on the bottle indicate to wait 15 minutes for it to dry before proceeding with your normal decaling procedure; you may want to put an extra coat or two over the initial coat and let dry overnight.  Good luck!

Jim Brewer

 


Re: ADVICE FROM THE ESTEEMED GENTLEMAN OF STMFC...

James Brewer
 

Mr. Hambly,

I can't comment on Mr. White's book; but regarding decals I have had good success using Microscale Liquid Decal Film.  The directions on the bottle indicate to wait 15 minutes for it to dry before proceeding with your normal decaling procedure; you may want to put an extra coat or two over the initial coat and let dry overnight.  Good luck!

Jim Brewer


ADVICE FROM THE ESTEEMED GENTLEMAN OF STMFC...

Mansell Peter Hambly
 

What decal solution should I use to preserve and apply to old decals and I do mean OLD.

I just acquired White's THE GREAT YELLOW FLEET and I faintly recall that this books has some questionable assumptions in it. I would like to know just what caution I should implement when I read this book.

Thank you gentlemen.

Mansell Peter Hambly
COQUITLAM, B.C. CANADA


Re: Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks to all who gave me input
Much appreciated
Fenton

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 5:21 PM Kenneth Montero <va661midlo@...> wrote:
Eastern Car Works made some (no.9052). Richard Hendrickson's article shows that the kit can be built with either coil or leaf springs.

LaBelle Woodworking has the former Behlehem Car Works Taylor coil springs trucks (no.521). Bethlehem Car Works had the leaf spring version (no. 1218) that was sold to LaBelle, but it has yet to show up on LaBelle's website.

Ken Montero
On 10/09/2020 4:24 PM O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


I wish Tahoe made Taylor trucks.  Does anybody?  
Fenton

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:28 AM Ben Sullivan < ben.sullivan75@...> wrote:
Just a minor side note, the RDG 100053 boxcar is of interest to me, only by coincidence. I model and research the Georgetown Branch of the B&O, with my layout set ca 1945-55. In one of the rare steam era photos I have in my files there is a car from the same series; RDG 100225. According to  http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/rdg102751main.html these cars were from the same series of 500 cars built 3/25 by ACF, class XMt.

Here is the photo, May 30, 1956, Bethesda, MD, by R. Mumford.
http://gallery.sluggyjunx.com/railroad_and_industrial/georgetownbranch/gb_prototype_photos/r_mumford_collection/mumford-b-w_prints/35
(click to embiggen)

As a modeler, of course, I'm interested in representing this on my layout so the search is on for me to find out more about these cars in the HO scale space. Anyway, thank you for sharing! 

--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD
http://sluggyjunx.com/rr/gb/





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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

Kenneth Montero
 

Eastern Car Works made some (no.9052). Richard Hendrickson's article shows that the kit can be built with either coil or leaf springs.

LaBelle Woodworking has the former Behlehem Car Works Taylor coil springs trucks (no.521). Bethlehem Car Works had the leaf spring version (no. 1218) that was sold to LaBelle, but it has yet to show up on LaBelle's website.

Ken Montero

On 10/09/2020 4:24 PM O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


I wish Tahoe made Taylor trucks.  Does anybody?  
Fenton

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:28 AM Ben Sullivan < ben.sullivan75@...> wrote:
Just a minor side note, the RDG 100053 boxcar is of interest to me, only by coincidence. I model and research the Georgetown Branch of the B&O, with my layout set ca 1945-55. In one of the rare steam era photos I have in my files there is a car from the same series; RDG 100225. According to  http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/rdg102751main.html these cars were from the same series of 500 cars built 3/25 by ACF, class XMt.

Here is the photo, May 30, 1956, Bethesda, MD, by R. Mumford.
http://gallery.sluggyjunx.com/railroad_and_industrial/georgetownbranch/gb_prototype_photos/r_mumford_collection/mumford-b-w_prints/35
(click to embiggen)

As a modeler, of course, I'm interested in representing this on my layout so the search is on for me to find out more about these cars in the HO scale space. Anyway, thank you for sharing! 

--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD
http://sluggyjunx.com/rr/gb/





--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks, I may have to add a Reading car that didn't use the Taylors, Maybe some good old fashion Athearn(😂) Betterdorfs


On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 4:32 PM Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Fenton;

 

I had a set of Taylor trucks in my truck box for a long time before giving them to a devout RDG modeler who kept begging me.  I didn’t think the quality of them was very good, but I know someone did make them in HO.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:25 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

 

I wish Tahoe made Taylor trucks.  Does anybody?  

Fenton

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:28 AM Ben Sullivan <ben.sullivan75@...> wrote:

Just a minor side note, the RDG 100053 boxcar is of interest to me, only by coincidence. I model and research the Georgetown Branch of the B&O, with my layout set ca 1945-55. In one of the rare steam era photos I have in my files there is a car from the same series; RDG 100225. According to Blockedhttp://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/rdg102751main.html these cars were from the same series of 500 cars built 3/25 by ACF, class XMt.

Here is the photo, May 30, 1956, Bethesda, MD, by R. Mumford.
Blockedhttp://gallery.sluggyjunx.com/railroad_and_industrial/georgetownbranch/gb_prototype_photos/r_mumford_collection/mumford-b-w_prints/35
(click to embiggen)

As a modeler, of course, I'm interested in representing this on my layout so the search is on for me to find out more about these cars in the HO scale space. Anyway, thank you for sharing! 

--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD
Blockedhttp://sluggyjunx.com/rr/gb/


 

--

Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: HO Scale Taylor Trucks [was Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)]

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Ben, I knew about the Eastern Car works but wasn't impressed with their other trucks.  Thanks for the feed back
Fenton

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 4:32 PM Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:
Fenton Wells asked:
"I wish Tahoe made Taylor trucks.  Does anybody?"

Eastern Car Works did in styrene; Bethlehem Car Works did both coil spring (#1217) and leaf spring (#1218) versions in white metal.  This line of trucks has been sold to LaBelle.


Ben Hom



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Thanks, Garth!

 

I had forgotten who made them.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:40 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

 

Elden and Friends,

 

The Taylor coil spring trucks are now offered by LaBelle Woodworking: Blockedhttps://www.labellemodels.com/freight-trucks-c-32_34_56.html?osCsid=eplro7n7l77phcv404bfpgp4g4 . It is the last item on this page. These were formerly marketed by Bethlehem Car Works, and actually (I think) go all the way back to the old Red Ball days. Yes, they are a bit crude, but AFAIK they are the only game in town. At least you will not have to add quite so much weight to a freight car.  :~)

 

Yours Aye,

 

 

Garth Groff  🦆

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 4:32 PM Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Fenton;

 

I had a set of Taylor trucks in my truck box for a long time before giving them to a devout RDG modeler who kept begging me.  I didn’t think the quality of them was very good, but I know someone did make them in HO.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:25 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

 

I wish Tahoe made Taylor trucks.  Does anybody?  

Fenton

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:28 AM Ben Sullivan <ben.sullivan75@...> wrote:

Just a minor side note, the RDG 100053 boxcar is of interest to me, only by coincidence. I model and research the Georgetown Branch of the B&O, with my layout set ca 1945-55. In one of the rare steam era photos I have in my files there is a car from the same series; RDG 100225. According to BlockedBlockedhttp://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/rdg102751main.html these cars were from the same series of 500 cars built 3/25 by ACF, class XMt.

Here is the photo, May 30, 1956, Bethesda, MD, by R. Mumford.
BlockedBlockedhttp://gallery.sluggyjunx.com/railroad_and_industrial/georgetownbranch/gb_prototype_photos/r_mumford_collection/mumford-b-w_prints/35
(click to embiggen)

As a modeler, of course, I'm interested in representing this on my layout so the search is on for me to find out more about these cars in the HO scale space. Anyway, thank you for sharing! 

--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD
BlockedBlockedhttp://sluggyjunx.com/rr/gb/


 

--

Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Elden and Friends,

The Taylor coil spring trucks are now offered by LaBelle Woodworking: https://www.labellemodels.com/freight-trucks-c-32_34_56.html?osCsid=eplro7n7l77phcv404bfpgp4g4 . It is the last item on this page. These were formerly marketed by Bethlehem Car Works, and actually (I think) go all the way back to the old Red Ball days. Yes, they are a bit crude, but AFAIK they are the only game in town. At least you will not have to add quite so much weight to a freight car.  :~)

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 4:32 PM Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Fenton;

 

I had a set of Taylor trucks in my truck box for a long time before giving them to a devout RDG modeler who kept begging me.  I didn’t think the quality of them was very good, but I know someone did make them in HO.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:25 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

 

I wish Tahoe made Taylor trucks.  Does anybody?  

Fenton

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:28 AM Ben Sullivan <ben.sullivan75@...> wrote:

Just a minor side note, the RDG 100053 boxcar is of interest to me, only by coincidence. I model and research the Georgetown Branch of the B&O, with my layout set ca 1945-55. In one of the rare steam era photos I have in my files there is a car from the same series; RDG 100225. According to Blockedhttp://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/rdg102751main.html these cars were from the same series of 500 cars built 3/25 by ACF, class XMt.

Here is the photo, May 30, 1956, Bethesda, MD, by R. Mumford.
Blockedhttp://gallery.sluggyjunx.com/railroad_and_industrial/georgetownbranch/gb_prototype_photos/r_mumford_collection/mumford-b-w_prints/35
(click to embiggen)

As a modeler, of course, I'm interested in representing this on my layout so the search is on for me to find out more about these cars in the HO scale space. Anyway, thank you for sharing! 

--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD
Blockedhttp://sluggyjunx.com/rr/gb/


 

--

Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


HO Scale Taylor Trucks [was Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)]

Benjamin Hom
 

Fenton Wells asked:
"I wish Tahoe made Taylor trucks.  Does anybody?"

Eastern Car Works did in styrene; Bethlehem Car Works did both coil spring (#1217) and leaf spring (#1218) versions in white metal.  This line of trucks has been sold to LaBelle.


Ben Hom


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Fenton;

 

I had a set of Taylor trucks in my truck box for a long time before giving them to a devout RDG modeler who kept begging me.  I didn’t think the quality of them was very good, but I know someone did make them in HO.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:25 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

 

I wish Tahoe made Taylor trucks.  Does anybody?  

Fenton

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:28 AM Ben Sullivan <ben.sullivan75@...> wrote:

Just a minor side note, the RDG 100053 boxcar is of interest to me, only by coincidence. I model and research the Georgetown Branch of the B&O, with my layout set ca 1945-55. In one of the rare steam era photos I have in my files there is a car from the same series; RDG 100225. According to Blockedhttp://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/rdg102751main.html these cars were from the same series of 500 cars built 3/25 by ACF, class XMt.

Here is the photo, May 30, 1956, Bethesda, MD, by R. Mumford.
Blockedhttp://gallery.sluggyjunx.com/railroad_and_industrial/georgetownbranch/gb_prototype_photos/r_mumford_collection/mumford-b-w_prints/35
(click to embiggen)

As a modeler, of course, I'm interested in representing this on my layout so the search is on for me to find out more about these cars in the HO scale space. Anyway, thank you for sharing! 

--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD
Blockedhttp://sluggyjunx.com/rr/gb/


 

--

Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Photo: TCWX Tank Car 115 (1931)

O Fenton Wells
 

I wish Tahoe made Taylor trucks.  Does anybody?  
Fenton

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:28 AM Ben Sullivan <ben.sullivan75@...> wrote:
Just a minor side note, the RDG 100053 boxcar is of interest to me, only by coincidence. I model and research the Georgetown Branch of the B&O, with my layout set ca 1945-55. In one of the rare steam era photos I have in my files there is a car from the same series; RDG 100225. According to http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/boxauto/rdg102751main.html these cars were from the same series of 500 cars built 3/25 by ACF, class XMt.

Here is the photo, May 30, 1956, Bethesda, MD, by R. Mumford.
http://gallery.sluggyjunx.com/railroad_and_industrial/georgetownbranch/gb_prototype_photos/r_mumford_collection/mumford-b-w_prints/35
(click to embiggen)

As a modeler, of course, I'm interested in representing this on my layout so the search is on for me to find out more about these cars in the HO scale space. Anyway, thank you for sharing! 

--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD
http://sluggyjunx.com/rr/gb/



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Photo: California Dispatch Line Tank Cars At Winery (Circa 1915)

Tony Thompson
 

Bob Chaparrowrote:

Photo: California Dispatch Line Tank Cars At Winery (Circa 1915)
A photo from the Sonoma County Library:

    CDLX 728 and 740. CDL served the California wine industry for decades with leased cars, until selling the fleet to GATC in the 1950s.

Tony Thompson



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