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Re: ice refrigerator car
Tony Thompson
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Re: ice refrigerator car
Tony Thompson
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Re: ice refrigerator car
Tony Thompson
Thanks, Bruce. So are you building the PRR ice car? <g> Tony Thompson
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Re: ice refrigerator car
Tony Thompson
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Re: ice refrigerator car
Tony,
Neat car, and I like the back story of why an ATSF car would be on the SP!
One of my favorite ice service cars is shown in PRR Color Guide (1). While it is incorrectly noted as an "RB23" and worse still as a "modified X23 box car", it is in fact an SFRD RR-23, most likely wrecked on the PRR and written off by SFRD, which has been
repaired, painted grey, and lettered for PRR ice service. The car, PRR #498350, is stenciled "ASSIGNED TO JERSEY CITY ICE CAR"
Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tony Thompson <tony@...>
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 1:38 PM To: ResinFreightCarBuilders@groups.io <ResinFreightCarBuilders@groups.io>; RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] ice refrigerator car I've recently completed a Westerfield kit, no. 10864, for a Santa Fe ice car conversion. A photo of the model is below. I have also written a summary of ice car operations, as they apply on my layout, as well as an explanation
of the presence of a Santa Fe car like this on an SP layout. If you're interested, the link is below.
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Re: Retractable Brake Staffs on Flat Cars - An Operational Question
George Eichelberger
I expect so called “power brake wheels” made everything else pretty much obsolete as they came into wide use (probably outlawed?). The 1949/51 Cyc only shows only the (attached) vertical style with a square brake shaft. Ike
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Re: ice refrigerator car
Patrick Wade
An interesting note on ATSF usage. I read several works on the Harvey House operation. These company cars also delivered parshiables to the Harvey House kitchens. And when they got to the end of the line, on the trip back they hauled dirty dining room linen back to a central laundry facility. Pat Wade Santa Barbara, CA
On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 11:39 AM Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:
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Re: ice refrigerator car
James Brewer
Beautiful model and interesting blog write-up!
Jim Brewer
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Re: ice refrigerator car
Gary Ray
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing. Gary Ray Magalia, CA
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 11:39 AM To: ResinFreightCarBuilders@groups.io; RealSTMFC@groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] ice refrigerator car
I've recently completed a Westerfield kit, no. 10864, for a Santa Fe ice car conversion. A photo of the model is below. I have also written a summary of ice car operations, as they apply on my layout, as well as an explanation of the presence of a Santa Fe car like this on an SP layout. If you're interested, the link is below.
Tony Thompson
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Re: ice refrigerator car
Surprised the coupler box extends that far on a truss rod car.
Thanks!
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tony Thompson <tony@...>
I've recently completed a Westerfield kit, no. 10864, for a Santa Fe ice car conversion. A photo of the model is below. I have also written a summary of ice car operations, as they apply on my layout, as well as an explanation of the presence of a Santa Fe car like this on an SP layout. If you're interested, the link is below.
Tony Thompson
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ice refrigerator car
Tony Thompson
I've recently completed a Westerfield kit, no. 10864, for a Santa Fe ice car conversion. A photo of the model is below. I have also written a summary of ice car operations, as they apply on my layout, as well as an explanation of the presence of a Santa Fe car like this on an SP layout. If you're interested, the link is below.
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Re: Photo: UTLX 69755 Loading Hot Rosin (Circa 1960)
erieblt2
Sorry for an aside. For some unknown reason this picture Sparked an old memory. In the early 60’s I saw the result of a derailed overturned split open covered hopper at Parkville Junction on the Long Island Rail Road’s Bay Ridge Branch. The hopper was carrying tiny blue plastic beads to be made into...(?) ‘stuff’. It was everywherE! The mild wind blew the little spheres all around. I still have an empty 35mm film canister filled with the little pellets! I still wonder how they cleaned it up! It was inshovelable(?‘could not be shoveled’). Cleaning up wrecked reefer contents must also been tough! Celery !?! And spilled resin!!!!! Yikes! Bill S
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On Oct 11, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:
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Photo: UTLX 69755 Loading Hot Rosin (Circa 1960)
Photo: UTLX 69755 Loading Hot Rosin (Circa 1960) A photo from the Science History Institute: https://digital.sciencehistory.org/works/bk128b85n Click and scroll on the photo to enlarge it. Caption: General view of the tank car loading station used to transport hot rosin at the Hercules Powder Company plant in Brunswick, Georgia. One of two Hercules plants specializing in naval stores, the Brunswick plant extracted rosin, turpentine, and pine oil from pine tree stumps in order to produce a range of chemicals used in the manufacture of varnishes, paints, adhesives, insecticides, textiles, and other industrial products. The employee visible adjusting the loading pipe on top of the tank car is identified as Clifford Martin. Formed in 1912 as part of an anti-trust settlement with DuPont, the Hercules Powder Company (later Hercules Inc.) initially specialized in the manufacture of explosives and smokeless powders and subsequently diversified its business to encompass a variety of industrial products, including pine and paper chemicals, synthetics, pigments, polymers, and cellulose. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Photo: ATSF Boxcar 19993 Bx-11 (1959)
Kenneth Montero
Bob,
Thank you for putting together this collage of photographs to show the changes to this car over time, especially the application of exterior steel sheeting in the 1950's. It has been quite enlightening.
Ken Montero
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Re: Video: Erie Railroad Carfloat Operations in Chicago, 1920
Bill J.
Side rod diesels in the 1920s?!
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Photo: ATSF Boxcar 19993 Bx-11 (1959)
Photo: ATSF Boxcar 19993 Bx-11 (1959) A photo from the SMU Libraries: https://digitalcollections.smu.edu/digital/collection/rwy/id/1242/rec/6 Scroll on the photo to enlarge it. From the date and paint scheme, the car recently was painted. This Class Bx-11 was on of 2,000 boxcars (Series 19000-20550) built in 1929 as single wood sheathed cars. These were the first Santa Fe boxcars to be delivered with geared handbrake wheels. Westerfield model: https://id18538.securedata.net/westerfieldmodels.com/merchantmanager/popup_image.php?pID=307 This car was rebuilt in the early 1940s with steel side and end extensions. Here is an example: One note I have indicates the full steel sheathing, as seen in the SMU photo, was applied in 1956. There were still 261 cars in this series rostered in 1974 but none by 1977. There were four other series of Bx-11 cars. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Photos: Magor Car ASX 6758 (Undated)
Eric Hansmann
That looks like a modern coke gondola. There isn’t a roof but there is a running board.
Note the GC stencil in the lower right corner. It also seems to have a Nuevo stencil of 48.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 12:13 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photos: Magor Car ASX 6758 (Undated)
Photos: Magor Car ASX 6758 (Undated) Photos from the SMU Libraries: https://digitalcollections.smu.edu/digital/collection/rwy/id/3236/rec/57 https://digitalcollections.smu.edu/digital/collection/rwy/id/3256/rec/32 Scroll on the photos to enlarge them. American Smelting & Refining Co. car with open top. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Retractable Brake Staffs on Flat Cars - An Operational Question
Dennis Storzek
On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 08:17 AM, George Eichelberger wrote:
Looking at various ads in different "Car Builder’s Cyclopedias”, “drop brake shafts” work in either the upper or lower position (their shaft is square) or rotated to the vertical or horizontal positions. Unless those functions were outlawed at some point, they could be arranged to clear loads wsith no problem.Seems to me that unless the drop staff has a detent to hold the wheel 4" above the deck, they violate the requirement for hand clearance when in the down position. Can't comment on the swinging variety, but they didn't seem to be very popular after the twenties, so must not have offered any advantage. Seems to me we went through this discussion not too long ago, in a thread about brake staffs on early piggyback flats, and Guy Wilber provided the definitive answer, but I don't have time to search for it. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Retractable Brake Staffs on Flat Cars - An Operational Question
George Eichelberger
Looking at various ads in different "Car Builder’s Cyclopedias”, “drop brake shafts” work in either the upper or lower position (their shaft is square) or rotated to the vertical or horizontal positions. Unless those functions were outlawed at some point, they could be arranged to clear loads wsith no problem.
Ike
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Re: Retractable Brake Staffs on Flat Cars - An Operational Question
Nelson Moyer
Thanks for your definitive answer, Dennis. You just laid this thread to rest.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 10:34 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Retractable Brake Staffs on Flat Cars - An Operational Question
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 05:52 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote:
Coming into this late. I would postulate that any car with a hand brake not in the position specified in the ICC safety appliance diagrams has a defect and won't move past the first inbound inspection without having it remedied. Now, the
remedy may be as simple as the car men raising it to operating position, but it will be raised. If it can't be raised the shipper has a problem, because the railroad is going to charge him for shifting the load. All cars are required to have an operable hand
brake, the only exception is idlers where the brake staff would interfere with the load, and those cars are required to be permanently coupled to a car with an operable hand brake. Permanently coupled in this case means either chained together or the uncoupling
mechanisms made inoperative.
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