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Re: Photos: Assorted Freight Cars In St. Louis (Undated)

Eric Hansmann
 

It might be coke in the N&W gondola. Foundries of all sizes use coke. A gondola delivery might be for a smaller or medium size operation.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 7:05 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photos: Assorted Freight Cars In St. Louis (Undated)

 

Thats some big coal in the N&W gondola in the first picture.  What industry in St Louis would use something that big?

Scott McDonald 


Re: kroger cofee tins

Ray Hutchison
 

NPR recently had a feature on the Museum of Everyday Life (perhaps Museum of Everyday Life).  The museum might be interested in your coffee tins, Garth,


Re: Wabash 7000-7299

Rick Jesionowski
 

By the way page 22 in the Wab/NKP etc color guide there is a picture of the car.

Rick Jesionowski 


Re: Two Compartment HO Scale Tank Cars: Who Made Them?

Benjamin Hom
 

Garth Groff wrote:
"Mark Feddersen wrote an article in the July 1988 MAINLINE MODELER with the title "Tank Car Pleasure: Twin Dome Kit Modification". Feddersen describes converting a Tichy tank into a GATX prototype. Most of us probably have a couple of these Tichy cars we are too embarrassed to haul out when anybody on this list is looking, so here is a great chance for both an accurate twin-dome tank car, and a use for these dodgy kits."

The Feddersen Mainline Modeler articles are definitely worth another read for the modeling approach and techniques - they're a precursor to Bobby Pitts' tank car work, appearing almost two decades earlier.

While the "prototype" for the Gould/Tichy tank car kits might be dodgy (and I realize that they're close to several prototypes covered previously on this list - but nothing out of the box), the components are certainly useful, and Tichy helpfully provides them in his parts line.


Ben Hom  



Re: Two Compartment HO Scale Tank Cars: Who Made Them?

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Bob and Friends,

Mark Feddersen wrote an article in the July 1988 MAINLINE MODELER with the title "Tank Car Pleasure: Twin Dome Kit Modification". Feddersen describes converting a Tichy tank into a GATX prototype. Most of us probably have a couple of these Tichy cars we are too embarrassed to haul out when anybody on this list is looking, so here is a great chance for both an accurate twin-dome tank car, and a use for these dodgy kits.

Twin-dome cars were pretty rare, but they were common enough to justify one or two in a freight car collection. The problem is finding photos and data. It would be neat if somebody did an illustrated article on various twin-dome prototypes.

I have an old steel Athearn/Globe twin-dome which is sort-of kitbashed to stand-in for UNPX 102 (a Sinclair subsidiary that continued with its own reporting mark). Sadly, UNPX 102 was a 6K car, and the Athearn tank is 8K, but I can live with it. It has slightly larger Selly cast metal domes from my parts box. I love finding old Athearn and Mantua steel tank car models at train shows and bringing them back to life.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:49 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Two Compartment HO Scale Tank Cars: Who Made Them?

I seem to recall about eight years ago one of the higher-end manufacturers offered an HO scale R-T-R two compartment tank car in plastic. Perhaps it was Tangent or Broadway Limited.

Does anyone recall who offered this tank car?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Two Compartment HO Scale Tank Cars: Who Made Them?

Brian Carlson
 

Tangent made a 3 dome in plastic. Southern car and Foundry had a two dome in resin. They also had single and 3 dome cars in resin. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Oct 16, 2020, at 12:49 AM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:



Two Compartment HO Scale Tank Cars: Who Made Them?

I seem to recall about eight years ago one of the higher-end manufacturers offered an HO scale R-T-R two compartment tank car in plastic. Perhaps it was Tangent or Broadway Limited.

Does anyone recall who offered this tank car?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Two Compartment HO Scale Tank Cars: Who Made Them?

Bob Chaparro
 

Two Compartment HO Scale Tank Cars: Who Made Them?

I seem to recall about eight years ago one of the higher-end manufacturers offered an HO scale R-T-R two compartment tank car in plastic. Perhaps it was Tangent or Broadway Limited.

Does anyone recall who offered this tank car?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photos: Assorted Freight Cars In St. Louis (Undated)

Scott
 

Thats some big coal in the N&W gondola in the first picture.  What industry in St Louis would use something that big?

Scott McDonald 


Re: Photos: Assorted Freight Cars In St. Louis (Undated)

Gary Roe
 

Robert,

I agree with your assessment 100%.

In the middle picture, there are 2 diesel switchers in the background.  I am 99% sure the one to the left is a Wabash SW-1.  Not sure about the ALCo on the right; but it is possible it belongs to the Wabash as well.  The Chevy truck that appears to be loading scrap into the PRR gon was built between 41-46 (they all looked the same), so the photo dates no earlier than 1941.

gary roe
quincy, illinois



On Thursday, October 15, 2020, 12:37:11 PM CDT, Robert J. Amsler, Jr. <mpfan1@...> wrote:


As these photos are from St. Louis, I wanted to determine which yard was the subject of these three photographs.  I determined that they are actually an industrial yard in north St. Louis City in the northern industrial area where a number of freight houses were just north of downtown St. Louis and just a few blocks west of the Mississippi River.

 

The business in the background is Carr Tromble Manufacturing, which owned Bilt Well Plans and Millwork.  They published plans for homes and would provide you with a home kit to build your home.

 

Robert J. Amsler, Jr.

514 Dover Place

Saint Louis, Missouri 63111

(314) 606-6118  (Telephone)

(314) 754-2688  (Facsimile)

MPFan1@...

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:52 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photos: Assorted Freight Cars In St. Louis (Undated)

 

Photos: Assorted Freight Cars In St. Louis (Undated)

Photos from the State Historical Society Of Missouri:

https://cdm17228.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/imc/id/13798/rec/2

https://cdm17228.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/imc/id/13220/rec/1

https://cdm17228.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/imc/id/13011/rec/1

Scroll on the photos to enlarge them.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Chemical Processing Vessel On Flat Cars (Circa 1935)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Oops, I made an error, this is two-car series 67051-67053 (odd only), not series 67053-67054
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Chemical Processing Vessel On Flat Cars (Circa 1935)

Hi Bob and List Members,
 
Thanks Bob for another great image.
 
Regarding the image date, I think I see 10-36 stencilled on ERIE 7209, so it cannot be 1935...
 
Regarding the car CMStP&P 67053, it is one car of the two-car series 67053-67054. This is a 44-ft 200-ton car built by Standard Steel Car Co. on 10-1928 with trucks and span bolster from Buckeye Steel Castings Co.
 
Railway Age 02Feb1929 pg264 has an illustrated article on these two cars - a quote from the article...
 
"The cars are intended for the service of the A. O. Smith Corporation, Milwaukee, Wis., in transporting unusually heave machinery, including large gasoline stills used in a new cracking process"
 
So this image is spot on and shows the cars in the intended service!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 12:51 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Chemical Processing Vessel On Flat Cars (Circa 1935)

Photo: Chemical Processing Vessel On Flat Cars (Circa 1935)

Photo from the State Historical Society Of Missouri:

https://cdm17228.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/imc/id/12440/rec/1

Not SSW flatcars, but Erie & Milwaukee Road flatcars.

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Test

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Oct 15, 2020, at 11:03, Tony Thompson <tony@signaturepress.com> wrote:

Well, if you know the 3-4-5 rule . . .
or what my high school mechanical drawing teacher called "the Pitha Gorian theorem"[0], ... He was of Veneto extraction, though, ergo forgivable.

[0] sqrt(x^2 + y^2)


Re: Photo: Chemical Processing Vessel On Flat Cars (Circa 1935)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
Thanks Bob for another great image.
 
Regarding the image date, I think I see 10-36 stencilled on ERIE 7209, so it cannot be 1935...
 
Regarding the car CMStP&P 67053, it is one car of the two-car series 67053-67054. This is a 44-ft 200-ton car built by Standard Steel Car Co. on 10-1928 with trucks and span bolster from Buckeye Steel Castings Co.
 
Railway Age 02Feb1929 pg264 has an illustrated article on these two cars - a quote from the article...
 
"The cars are intended for the service of the A. O. Smith Corporation, Milwaukee, Wis., in transporting unusually heave machinery, including large gasoline stills used in a new cracking process"
 
So this image is spot on and shows the cars in the intended service!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 12:51 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Chemical Processing Vessel On Flat Cars (Circa 1935)

Photo: Chemical Processing Vessel On Flat Cars (Circa 1935)

Photo from the State Historical Society Of Missouri:

https://cdm17228.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/imc/id/12440/rec/1

Not SSW flatcars, but Erie & Milwaukee Road flatcars.

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Wabash 7000-7299

mopacfirst
 

Ed:

This helps a lot.  I have these files downloaded and in paper form, should have pulled this one also to see what it had.  My best guess is the bolter-to-bolster sidesill is the major difference in these cars, but I've done some of those before so shouldn't be an issue.

Ron Merrick


Re: Test

Tony Thompson
 

Well, if you know the 3-4-5 rule . . .

Tony Thompson
tony@signaturepress.com


Re: Test

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Oct 15, 2020, at 08:44, Scott <repairman87@hotmail.com> wrote:

Find the magnitude of the following vector.




10 *DING*
and I didn't need to cheat


Re: Wabash 7000-7299

Rick Jesionowski
 

The major difference is the straight side sill from bolster to bolster. Information on these cars can be found here.



Rick Jesionowski


Re: Tichy GSC Flatcar

Tony Thompson
 

Brian Carlsonwrote:

This is one of those weird times when the Walthers car captures the look of the GSC prototype better. 

     I agree, and used an upgraded Walthers body to do a Santa Fe car.

Tony Thompson




Re: Tichy GSC Flatcar

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Tom,

Well, maybe for something else, but personally I would have fixed the problem myself rather than hang on to a car that was obviously designed wrong.

OTOH, I still have a pristine but empty can of Kroger's instant coffee marked "Viennese Chocolate", subtitled "Swiss Style Flavored Instant Coffee." The Kroger people fixed this gaff pretty quickly, and my empty can might be the last one like this in the world, outside of their archives. I think I should see if the Smithsonian would be interested. Or maybe I could get rich putting up for auction on eBay.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 12:12 PM Tom Madden via groups.io <pullmanboss=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 10:04 AM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:
Tom and friends,
 
Walthers must have fixed it.
They did - and pretty quickly. Should have kept my one example.

Tom Madden
 


Re: Photos: Assorted Freight Cars In St. Louis (Undated)

Robert J. Amsler, Jr.
 

As these photos are from St. Louis, I wanted to determine which yard was the subject of these three photographs.  I determined that they are actually an industrial yard in north St. Louis City in the northern industrial area where a number of freight houses were just north of downtown St. Louis and just a few blocks west of the Mississippi River.

 

The business in the background is Carr Tromble Manufacturing, which owned Bilt Well Plans and Millwork.  They published plans for homes and would provide you with a home kit to build your home.

 

Robert J. Amsler, Jr.

514 Dover Place

Saint Louis, Missouri 63111

(314) 606-6118  (Telephone)

(314) 754-2688  (Facsimile)

MPFan1@...

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:52 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photos: Assorted Freight Cars In St. Louis (Undated)

 

Photos: Assorted Freight Cars In St. Louis (Undated)

Photos from the State Historical Society Of Missouri:

https://cdm17228.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/imc/id/13798/rec/2

https://cdm17228.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/imc/id/13220/rec/1

https://cdm17228.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/imc/id/13011/rec/1

Scroll on the photos to enlarge them.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Gondola Load Of Christmas Coal For The Needy (1940)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Gondola Load Of Christmas Coal  For The Needy (1940)

Photo from the State Historical Society Of Missouri:

https://cdm17228.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/imc/id/46258/rec/1

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

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Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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