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Photo: FGEX 35754 With Potato Load (1943)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: FGEX 35754 With Potato Load (1943)

Photo from the State Historical Society Of Missouri:

https://cdm17228.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/imc/id/42655/rec/6

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Small placard reads "Cleaned". Also a route or destination car tag reads "19..."

Another view:

https://cdm17228.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/imc/id/38276/rec/11

Anyone have an educated guess as to what is the document tacked to the inside of the door?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: B&M Boxcar 70096 (1933)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: B&M Boxcar 70096 (1933)

Photo from the Los Angeles Public Library:

https://tessa.lapl.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/turnabout/id/2635/rec/30

Use the slider to enlarge the photo.

Description: "            The Yale Puppeteers unloading their car in New Hampshire in summer 1933."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Uncoupling Lever Brackets

O Fenton Wells
 

Cal Scale also maked eye bolts but they are steel and stick to my tweezers.  But inexpensive and I use them where I can.

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Re: Wanted IM 10'6" AAR boxcar Have for trade a RCW Mini-Kit 3.01 Illinois Central Single-Sheathed Boxcar Series 176000 - 176999

O Fenton Wells
 

George, I don't have any extra IM cars but I might have a couple of Branchline 10'-6" IH cars.  Would they do?
Fenton

On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 9:05 AM gtws00 via groups.io <gtws00=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have a new unbuilt Resin Car Works Mini-Kit 3.01 IC Single Sheathed Boxcar Series 176000-176999. This kit is sold out at RCW and includes an undecorated Accurail Body and underframe, Resin detail Parts, Precision Design decals, Tahoe Model 40-ton ARA trucks and Tichy k style Brake Hardware.
I am looking to work out a trade for a couple of Intermountatin HO Scale preferably undecorated 40899 40ft 1937 10'6" Modified AAR Boxcars. These should have the 5/5 ends
Will consider decorated kits but prefer undecorated
If you are interested or can help me locate a couple of IM 10'6" part # 40899 please contact me off list at gtws00 at yahoo.com
Thanks 
George Toman



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Re: Uncoupling Lever Brackets

Kenneth Montero
 

Barker's Trains, an Ebay seller, makes other parts - and also is a retailer for a variety of other manufacturers' parts, some of whom are no longer in business.

Barker also makes a variety of uncoupling lift bars, but I only could find them when I went to the eye bolt link that Chuck provided (some of the other parts shown above the eyebolt part listing) or go to the "advanced" link on Ebay.com and insert "Barker's Trains".

To get to its main listing for other manufacturers, go to https://www.ebay.com/str/barkerstrains .

Ken Montero

On 10/17/2020 8:08 AM Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:


Thanks Lester, great post.


I have found another source for eye bolts.  Since the DA eye bolts have gotten hard to find, I have been using the ones from Barker’s Trains.  These can be found on EBay.

Barker's Trains HO Eye Bolts (16) BT-101


Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM



Re: Uncoupling Lever Brackets

gtws00
 

Nicely Done Lester
Thanks for posting
George Toman


Re: Uncoupling Lever Brackets

Nelson Moyer
 

Why not try YMW etched eyebolts? They come in several sizes and you can choose one that’s closer to scale for whatever application you need. I abandoned oversize wire eyebolts immediately after the etched ones became available.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chuck Cover
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 7:09 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Uncoupling Lever Brackets

 

Thanks Lester, great post.

 

I have found another source for eye bolts.  Since the DA eye bolts have gotten hard to find, I have been using the ones from Barker’s Trains.  These can be found on EBay.

Barker's Trains HO Eye Bolts (16) BT-101

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM


Wanted IM 10'6" AAR boxcar Have for trade a RCW Mini-Kit 3.01 Illinois Central Single-Sheathed Boxcar Series 176000 - 176999

gtws00
 

I have a new unbuilt Resin Car Works Mini-Kit 3.01 IC Single Sheathed Boxcar Series 176000-176999. This kit is sold out at RCW and includes an undecorated Accurail Body and underframe, Resin detail Parts, Precision Design decals, Tahoe Model 40-ton ARA trucks and Tichy k style Brake Hardware.
I am looking to work out a trade for a couple of Intermountatin HO Scale preferably undecorated 40899 40ft 1937 10'6" Modified AAR Boxcars. These should have the 5/5 ends
Will consider decorated kits but prefer undecorated
If you are interested or can help me locate a couple of IM 10'6" part # 40899 please contact me off list at gtws00 at yahoo.com
Thanks 
George Toman


Re: Uncoupling Lever Brackets

Chuck Cover
 

Thanks Lester, great post.

 

I have found another source for eye bolts.  Since the DA eye bolts have gotten hard to find, I have been using the ones from Barker’s Trains.  These can be found on EBay.

Barker's Trains HO Eye Bolts (16) BT-101

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM


Re: Two Compartment HO Scale Tank Cars: Who Made Them?

Chuck Cover
 

Hi Bob,

 

Attached is a photo of a Southern Car and Foundry two compartment tank car that I built earlier this year.  These are nice kits, I have built three of them.

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM


Re: Two Compartment HO Scale Tank Cars: Who Made Them?

Rich C
 

Bob, Southern Car and Foundry makes the two compartment tankers

RIch Christie


Re: Photo: Chemical Processing Vessel On Flat Cars (Circa 1935)

spsalso
 

And the truck spacing is wrong on the bolster on the Athearn car.

Red Ball did some riveted sides for similar cars, I think NYC.  In fact, I think Champ did a decal set for that very car (HC-291).  I think.

MILW car in plastic?:  Jolly Joker.




Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: Photo: Chemical Processing Vessel On Flat Cars (Circa 1935)

Benjamin Hom
 

Gary Laakso asked:
"Which plastic model making company offered the CMStP&P flatcar in HO scale?  It likely was in the 1960s."

Ken Montero replied:
"Athearn offered it in plastic for years. Its latest iteration (out of stock) is labeled as a "heavy duty" flat car in the Roundhouse line - also as a 200 ton flat car.

I have a metal car that looks the same as the Athearn plastic car, so I suspect that Athearn also may have made the same car earlier in metal."

Jon Miller added:
"Did the Athearn car have the rivets?" 

While Athearn has indeed had a heavy-duty flat car in their line since their metal model days (as well as Bachmann's six-axle knockoff), the only thing the model has in common with the Milwaukee flat in the photo is it has four trucks.  The prototype for the Athearn flat is the General Steel Castings 200-ton flat car, built for several different roads including PRR and SP.  Here's Tony Thompson's blog article on these cars:

Note that the GSC car is one large steel casting with no rivets nor stake pockets, which is nothing like the Milwaukee car in the original post.  The Athearn model doesn't model it terribly well - the sides are too high, and the car rides too high on its trucks due to it being engineered to run on sharp curves. 

Going back to Gary's question, the answer is no - nobody has done that Milwaukee car in plastic.


Ben Hom


Re: Photo: Chemical Processing Vessel On Flat Cars (Circa 1935)

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 10/16/2020 5:30 PM, Kenneth Montero wrote:
Athearn offered it in plastic for years.

    Did the Athearn car have the rivets?

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Re: Photo: Chemical Processing Vessel On Flat Cars (Circa 1935)

Kenneth Montero
 

Athearn offered it in plastic for years. Its latest iteration (out of stock) is labeled as a "heavy duty" flat car in the Roundhouse line - also as a 200 ton flat car.

I have a metal car that looks the same as the Athearn plastic car, so I suspect that Athearn also may have made the same car earlier in metal.

Ken Montero

PS Did anyone notice the end markings on the Milwaukee car - same on the truck nearest the end? How often did this happen, especially on the trucks, and even more especially as to the size of the solid bearings on the truck?

Ken Montero

On 10/16/2020 5:49 PM gary laakso <vasa0vasa@...> wrote:


Great pictures, thanks for sharing.  Which plastic model making company offered the CMStP&P flatcar in HO scale.  It likely was in the 1960s.


Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock




From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keith Retterer
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 2:41 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Chemical Processing Vessel On Flat Cars (Circa 1935)


It is interesting to see these cars both used with this giant load.  I have the builder's photos for Erie 7210, and three photos of CMStP&P 67053.



Uncoupling Lever Brackets

Lester Breuer
 

I have added a new post on uncoupling brake lever brackets that shows how I make my own brake lever brackets by bending them from wire or fabricating them from Evergreen styrene.  In addition, it provides prototype information and information on commercial brake lever brackets.  If you are interested in viewing photos and writeup of various installed brake lever brackets and brake levers, you can on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

 
http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/
 

Lester Breuer


Re: Photo: Chemical Processing Vessel On Flat Cars (Circa 1935)

gary laakso
 

Great pictures, thanks for sharing.  Which plastic model making company offered the CMStP&P flatcar in HO scale.  It likely was in the 1960s.

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keith Retterer
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 2:41 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Chemical Processing Vessel On Flat Cars (Circa 1935)

 

It is interesting to see these cars both used with this giant load.  I have the builder's photos for Erie 7210, and three photos of CMStP&P 67053.


Re: Photo: Chemical Processing Vessel On Flat Cars (Circa 1935)

Keith Retterer
 

It is interesting to see these cars both used with this giant load.  I have the builder's photos for Erie 7210, and three photos of CMStP&P 67053.


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Tichy GSC Flatcar

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Group;

 

You can see the F41 side sill taper and depth of bolster-to-end-sill depth better, plus the unusual deck arrangement, in these pics.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 4:21 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Tichy GSC Flatcar

 

Brian;

 

The Walthers car certainly does represent a casting much better.  I had no idea it was coming when I did my Tichy bash, otherwise, I would have waited.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 12:55 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Tichy GSC Flatcar

 

Elden That’s probably why I never completed the F41 project, different casting. 

Brian J. Carlson 

 

On Oct 16, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Brian, all;

 

PRR had no GSC flat cars of the “Commonwealth” design, but did own F41 classes that had a slightly different casting that had a different side tapers, a shallower sill outside the bolsters, and different top members.  They did have the ~60’ version as class F47. (think Tangent)

 

I did an F41 build years ago from the Tichy kit, and agree it is not rounded off enough to closely resemble that casting.  I spent a lot of time with sanding sticks to round off the edges.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 10:51 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Tichy GSC Flatcar

 

This is one of those weird times when the Walthers car captures the look of the GSC prototype better. The tichy car molding is too sharp for a casting imho. I was going to do a Pennsy car at one time, but something stopped me.  I don’t recall what that was currently.  

 

Removing the tichy weight works as Eric noted. 

Brian J. Carlson 



On Oct 15, 2020, at 10:32 AM, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:

I’ve had a number of projects “go bad” because I assumed the coupler height would be correct but discovered it to be wrong after too many details had been finished to do a major re-work on the underframe. If possible, I try to locate a drawing giving me dimensions to check earlty in the process.

 

Here is a part of a GSC flat car drawing from the SRHA archives… (measurements are always from top of rail). I have not checked the Tichy (PRR?) version against drawings but the Walthers car issued a number of years ago is nearly perfect.

 

Ike

 

<GSC flat end measurements.jpg>


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Tichy GSC Flatcar

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Brian;

 

The Walthers car certainly does represent a casting much better.  I had no idea it was coming when I did my Tichy bash, otherwise, I would have waited.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 12:55 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Tichy GSC Flatcar

 

Elden That’s probably why I never completed the F41 project, different casting. 

Brian J. Carlson 



On Oct 16, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Brian, all;

 

PRR had no GSC flat cars of the “Commonwealth” design, but did own F41 classes that had a slightly different casting that had a different side tapers, a shallower sill outside the bolsters, and different top members.  They did have the ~60’ version as class F47. (think Tangent)

 

I did an F41 build years ago from the Tichy kit, and agree it is not rounded off enough to closely resemble that casting.  I spent a lot of time with sanding sticks to round off the edges.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 10:51 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Tichy GSC Flatcar

 

This is one of those weird times when the Walthers car captures the look of the GSC prototype better. The tichy car molding is too sharp for a casting imho. I was going to do a Pennsy car at one time, but something stopped me.  I don’t recall what that was currently.  

 

Removing the tichy weight works as Eric noted. 

Brian J. Carlson 




On Oct 15, 2020, at 10:32 AM, George Eichelberger <geichelberger@...> wrote:

I’ve had a number of projects “go bad” because I assumed the coupler height would be correct but discovered it to be wrong after too many details had been finished to do a major re-work on the underframe. If possible, I try to locate a drawing giving me dimensions to check earlty in the process.

 

Here is a part of a GSC flat car drawing from the SRHA archives… (measurements are always from top of rail). I have not checked the Tichy (PRR?) version against drawings but the Walthers car issued a number of years ago is nearly perfect.

 

Ike

 

<GSC flat end measurements.jpg>

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