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Re: Photo: Rio Grande Flatcar 23018 (1956)

Chad Boas
 

Look at the IC hopper in the background. One of these days, I will get around to redoing my kit for that car.
Chad Boas


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR and other coke cars

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Mel;

 

Unfortunately, coke, but I am sure they hoped it wasn’t still hot!

 

I find these conversions really baffling.  Not a good idea.

 

PRR had some early conversions for wood chips, and others for sawdust, but they looked more like a regular box car. 

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of mel perry
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 5:17 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Cc: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR and other coke cars

 

for sure, not hot coke, did the prr have any wood chip or saw dust business?

;-)

mel perry

 

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 1:30 PM Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Folks;

 

Have any of you turned up any more on these cars?

 

Blockedhttps://digital.hagley.org/PRR_12857

 

Was there a method behind the madness of using wooden box cars, and not hoppers, for shipping potentially hot coke?

 

I have not found the correspondence on this, but would sure like to understand.

 

Elden Gatwood

 


Re: Looking for a copy of the MDT reefer book

ROGER HINMAN
 

I have copies, contact me off list for info


Roger Hinman


On Oct 20, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Bud Rindfleisch <BlackDiamondRR@...> wrote:

Hello,
     I had, but now cannot find, my copy of the book on MDT reefers. In my mind I'm trying to remember if I loaned it out and never had it returned or misplaced it when I moved my books prior to a repainting of the room I had them stored in. So, if anyone knows of a copy for sale I'd appreciate hearing about it. I'm sure my original copy will show up once I purchase another!
      Bud Rindfleisch


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR and other coke cars

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Doug;

 

The coke was quenched with water at the large plants, but it did not always behave.  Sometimes the pore space between hunks/chunks was too small to allow much water to penetrate, and it kept cooking.  There were also times the water cooked off too  quick, and chunks inside kept too hot.

 

There are some great photos of toasted box cars with hot coke still inside, while the wood is all burnt off.

 

I saw several cooked cars around the big by-products plants around Pittsburgh, growing up.  They were easy to ID.

 

The Morning Sun Color Guide on the Rock Island (IIRC), has a great one.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 5:22 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR and other coke cars

 

Wasn’t the coke quenched in water before loading into cars?

 

Doug Harding

Blockedwww.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 3:30 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] PRR and other coke cars

 

Folks;

 

Have any of you turned up any more on these cars?

 

Blockedhttps://digital.hagley.org/PRR_12857

 

Was there a method behind the madness of using wooden box cars, and not hoppers, for shipping potentially hot coke?

 

I have not found the correspondence on this, but would sure like to understand.

 

Elden Gatwood

 


Re: PRR and other coke cars

Douglas Harding
 

Wasn’t the coke quenched in water before loading into cars?

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 3:30 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] PRR and other coke cars

 

Folks;

 

Have any of you turned up any more on these cars?

 

https://digital.hagley.org/PRR_12857

 

Was there a method behind the madness of using wooden box cars, and not hoppers, for shipping potentially hot coke?

 

I have not found the correspondence on this, but would sure like to understand.

 

Elden Gatwood

 


Re: PRR and other coke cars

mel perry
 

for sure, not hot coke, did the prr have any wood chip or saw dust business?
;-)
mel perry

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 1:30 PM Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Folks;

 

Have any of you turned up any more on these cars?

 

https://digital.hagley.org/PRR_12857

 

Was there a method behind the madness of using wooden box cars, and not hoppers, for shipping potentially hot coke?

 

I have not found the correspondence on this, but would sure like to understand.

 

Elden Gatwood

 


Re: Model progress

Eric Hansmann
 

Thank you, Michael!

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Gross
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:53 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Model progress

 

Great upgrades, Eric, and thanks for the step by step photos!

Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: Photo: Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburg Boxcar 4076 (Circa 1915)

Eric Hansmann
 

Thanks for posting this, Bob!

 

This might be a little earlier than the 1915 date indicated on the site. I can’t quite read the weigh stencil but note the lack of proper sill steps and hand holds to meet the 1911 Safety Appliance Act amendment. The car was built in 1909-1910.

 

There was a lag in updating the cars to meet these new standards, so 1915 might be correct.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:45 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburg Boxcar 4076 (Circa 1915)

 

Photo: Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburg Boxcar 4076 (Circa 1915)

Photo from the State Historical Society Of Missouri:

https://cdm17228.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/imc/id/24566/rec/1

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] racks in a stock car 1940

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Thanks, Doug!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:31 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] racks in a stock car 1940

 

Elden, my understanding is the racks were for transporting flats of tomatoes. No livestock involved. Certainly not poultry. Attached is an interior photo of the racks.

 

Doug Harding

Blockedwww.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 3:15 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] racks in a stock car 1940

 

Folks;

 

How were these racks used?  If for poultry, how unloaded?

 

Blockedhttps://digital.hagley.org/PRR_12653

 

Thanks!

 

Elden Gatwood


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] racks in a stock car 1940

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Thanks, Ben!

 

I should have known you’d have the answer!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:22 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io; main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] racks in a stock car 1940

 

Elden Gatwood asked:

"How were these racks used?  If for poultry, how unloaded?

 

Car is equipped with temporary racks for tomatoes for Campbell.  See The Keystone Vol. 17 No. 2 (1984) for more details.

 

 

Ben Hom


Re: racks in a stock car 1940

Douglas Harding
 

Elden, my understanding is the racks were for transporting flats of tomatoes. No livestock involved. Certainly not poultry. Attached is an interior photo of the racks.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 3:15 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] racks in a stock car 1940

 

Folks;

 

How were these racks used?  If for poultry, how unloaded?

 

https://digital.hagley.org/PRR_12653

 

Thanks!

 

Elden Gatwood


PRR and other coke cars

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Folks;

 

Have any of you turned up any more on these cars?

 

https://digital.hagley.org/PRR_12857

 

Was there a method behind the madness of using wooden box cars, and not hoppers, for shipping potentially hot coke?

 

I have not found the correspondence on this, but would sure like to understand.

 

Elden Gatwood

 


Re: racks in a stock car 1940

Benjamin Hom
 

Elden Gatwood asked:
"How were these racks used?  If for poultry, how unloaded?

Car is equipped with temporary racks for tomatoes for Campbell.  See The Keystone Vol. 17 No. 2 (1984) for more details.


Ben Hom


racks in a stock car 1940

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Folks;

 

How were these racks used?  If for poultry, how unloaded?

 

https://digital.hagley.org/PRR_12653

 

Thanks!

 

Elden Gatwood


Re: Photo: Southern Automobile Boxcar 311006 (1938)

Mark Vinski
 

It was for automobile furniture;  the front and back seats.
Mark Vinski


Re: Model progress

Michael Gross
 

Great upgrades, Eric, and thanks for the step by step photos!

Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Looking for a copy of the MDT reefer book

Bud Rindfleisch
 

Hello,
     I had, but now cannot find, my copy of the book on MDT reefers. In my mind I'm trying to remember if I loaned it out and never had it returned or misplaced it when I moved my books prior to a repainting of the room I had them stored in. So, if anyone knows of a copy for sale I'd appreciate hearing about it. I'm sure my original copy will show up once I purchase another!
      Bud Rindfleisch


Re: Photo: SLRX 4539 (Circa 1947)

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Another interesting shot, Bob.  I don’t recall seeing an end constructed this way as early as 1947.

Was this car in service in this scheme, or is this a builder’s image which was repainted after the photo was taken?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:42 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SLRX 4539 (Circa 1947)

 

Photo: SLRX 4539 (Circa 1947)

Photo from the State Historical Society Of Missouri:

https://cdm17228.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/imc/id/12368/rec/1

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburg Boxcar 4076 (Circa 1915)

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thanks, Bob, for sending these around.  This shot in particular is amazingly sharp,  It’s almost clear what even the small the lettering is on the car. 

 

And one other thing: after looking at this car, are we still debating how deep the scoring on our models to replicate the appearance of cars like this?  This makes my old Main Line Models cars look very realistic.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:45 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburg Boxcar 4076 (Circa 1915)

 

Photo: Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburg Boxcar 4076 (Circa 1915)

Photo from the State Historical Society Of Missouri:

https://cdm17228.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/imc/id/24566/rec/1

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburg Boxcar 4076 (Circa 1915)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburg Boxcar 4076 (Circa 1915)

Photo from the State Historical Society Of Missouri:

https://cdm17228.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/imc/id/24566/rec/1

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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