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Re: Red Caboose NP reefer kitbash

radiodial868
 

The reweigh date on the 94631 photo is 1937. I model 1939, so figured I was safe. Speaking of that photo, here it is along with my version.
I would like to be able to credit the photographer, anyone know who it is and/or what collection it is in?
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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights

Dave Parker
 

On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 06:10 AM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
Check the group Files section for the Reweigh Symbol spreadsheet.  It's crowdsourced and could probably use a bit of QA, but it's been there for years.
 
Earlier this year, Jim Brewer spend quite a bit of time updating this spreadsheet, garnering many corrections and additions from multiple sources.  There is a May draft in the files section of this group, but it is the July revision that you would want.  That version has been posted to both the Resin Freight Car Builders and and Plastic Model Freight Car Builders groups.  It is a significant improvement over the older version that has been kicking around for years (thanks Jim!)
 
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Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights

Tim O'Connor
 


I have them and I've used them, but a Microscale sized sheet with hundreds of dates from the 1940's to ~1965 (when the
stencil practice mostly ended) is what I really need. For example Ted Culotta's beautiful SP box car decal sheets have tons
of small data... but the dates in the mid to late 1950's are very few


On 10/29/2020 10:34 AM, Bruce Smith wrote:
Champ decals did this. They subdivided the railroads by region, and then provided reweigh codes for each railroad. They also provided a separate sheet of reweigh dates.


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 8:10:51 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Decals for scale locations and light weights
 
Charlie Duckworth wrote:
"I’ve been kicking around an idea with Hubert Mask on having a decal set made with the most common weight locations by railroad.  I have a comprehensive list of Mopac locations but would need help with the other railroads.   I told Hubert I’d be happy to compile a list if the group members would send me the top six or eight locations.  Obviously I don’t want the full name but the ‘short name’ the railroad used in there stencil.  As example for the MP Kingsville was KV, Alexandria was ALEX. The decal sheet would be alphabetized by railroad so if you are wanting to restenciled a ATSF boxcar it would be easy to find.   He’ll also include a set of light weights."

Check the group Files section for the Reweigh Symbol spreadsheet.  It's crowdsourced and could probably use a bit of QA, but it's been there for years.


Ben Hom


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights

John Sykes III
 

Rob Schoenberg's website, http://prr.railfan.net/, has a complete list of PRR scale locations with stencil codes.  However, his list is from 1923, so there were changes (plus and minus) over the years.  I think there is another more recent list on someone else's PRR website, but I can't remember which one (maybe Jerry Britton's?).

-- John


Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights

Tim O'Connor
 


I have used the spreadsheet (posted by Jim Brewer) as a reference many times and I can't recall any errors - Most
of the time the problem is finding decals to match the symbols.




On 10/29/2020 9:10 AM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
Charlie Duckworth wrote:
"I’ve been kicking around an idea with Hubert Mask on having a decal set made with the most common weight locations by railroad.  I have a comprehensive list of Mopac locations but would need help with the other railroads.   I told Hubert I’d be happy to compile a list if the group members would send me the top six or eight locations.  Obviously I don’t want the full name but the ‘short name’ the railroad used in there stencil.  As example for the MP Kingsville was KV, Alexandria was ALEX. The decal sheet would be alphabetized by railroad so if you are wanting to restenciled a ATSF boxcar it would be easy to find.   He’ll also include a set of light weights."

Check the group Files section for the Reweigh Symbol spreadsheet.  It's crowdsourced and could probably use a bit of QA, but it's been there for years.


Ben Hom


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights

Charlie Duckworth
 

I’ll certainly add reweigh dates thanks for reminding me. 

On Oct 29, 2020, at 9:34 AM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


Champ decals did this. They subdivided the railroads by region, and then provided reweigh codes for each railroad. They also provided a separate sheet of reweigh dates.


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 8:10:51 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Decals for scale locations and light weights
 
Charlie Duckworth wrote:
"I’ve been kicking around an idea with Hubert Mask on having a decal set made with the most common weight locations by railroad.  I have a comprehensive list of Mopac locations but would need help with the other railroads.   I told Hubert I’d be happy to compile a list if the group members would send me the top six or eight locations.  Obviously I don’t want the full name but the ‘short name’ the railroad used in there stencil.  As example for the MP Kingsville was KV, Alexandria was ALEX. The decal sheet would be alphabetized by railroad so if you are wanting to restenciled a ATSF boxcar it would be easy to find.   He’ll also include a set of light weights."

Check the group Files section for the Reweigh Symbol spreadsheet.  It's crowdsourced and could probably use a bit of QA, but it's been there for years.


Ben Hom

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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights

Bruce Smith
 

Champ decals did this. They subdivided the railroads by region, and then provided reweigh codes for each railroad. They also provided a separate sheet of reweigh dates.


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 8:10:51 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Decals for scale locations and light weights
 
Charlie Duckworth wrote:
"I’ve been kicking around an idea with Hubert Mask on having a decal set made with the most common weight locations by railroad.  I have a comprehensive list of Mopac locations but would need help with the other railroads.   I told Hubert I’d be happy to compile a list if the group members would send me the top six or eight locations.  Obviously I don’t want the full name but the ‘short name’ the railroad used in there stencil.  As example for the MP Kingsville was KV, Alexandria was ALEX. The decal sheet would be alphabetized by railroad so if you are wanting to restenciled a ATSF boxcar it would be easy to find.   He’ll also include a set of light weights."

Check the group Files section for the Reweigh Symbol spreadsheet.  It's crowdsourced and could probably use a bit of QA, but it's been there for years.


Ben Hom


Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights

Mont Switzer
 

Charlie,

 

Monon locations all in Indiana.  They are inspection and reweigh locations which should include air brake systems.

 

M.C.     Michigan City

S.H.     South Hammond

LAF      Lafayette Shops

MID     Midland

IND     Belt Jct. (Indianapolis)

W.JCT Wallace Jct.

McD    McDoel (Bloomington)

 

Mont Switzer


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] on behalf of Charlie Duckworth [omahaduck@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 8:49 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Decals for scale locations and light weights

I’ve been kicking around an idea with Hubert Mask on having a decal set made with the most common weight locations by railroad.  I have a comprehensive list of Mopac locations but would need help with the other railroads.   I told Hubert I’d be happy to compile a list if the group members would send me the top six or eight locations.  Obviously I don’t want the full name but the ‘short name’ the railroad used in there stencil.  As example for the MP Kingsville was KV, Alexandria was ALEX. The decal sheet would be alphabetized by railroad so if you are wanting to restenciled a ATSF boxcar it would be easy to find.   He’ll also include a set of light weights.  

So the .io list isn’t filled with responses to this topic you can send your railroad name and weigh locations to me (omahaduck (at) gmail (dot) com)

thanks for helping. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights

Benjamin Hom
 

Charlie Duckworth wrote:
"I’ve been kicking around an idea with Hubert Mask on having a decal set made with the most common weight locations by railroad.  I have a comprehensive list of Mopac locations but would need help with the other railroads.   I told Hubert I’d be happy to compile a list if the group members would send me the top six or eight locations.  Obviously I don’t want the full name but the ‘short name’ the railroad used in there stencil.  As example for the MP Kingsville was KV, Alexandria was ALEX. The decal sheet would be alphabetized by railroad so if you are wanting to restenciled a ATSF boxcar it would be easy to find.   He’ll also include a set of light weights."

Check the group Files section for the Reweigh Symbol spreadsheet.  It's crowdsourced and could probably use a bit of QA, but it's been there for years.


Ben Hom


Decals for scale locations and light weights

Charlie Duckworth
 

I’ve been kicking around an idea with Hubert Mask on having a decal set made with the most common weight locations by railroad.  I have a comprehensive list of Mopac locations but would need help with the other railroads.   I told Hubert I’d be happy to compile a list if the group members would send me the top six or eight locations.  Obviously I don’t want the full name but the ‘short name’ the railroad used in there stencil.  As example for the MP Kingsville was KV, Alexandria was ALEX. The decal sheet would be alphabetized by railroad so if you are wanting to restenciled a ATSF boxcar it would be easy to find.   He’ll also include a set of light weights.  

So the .io list isn’t filled with responses to this topic you can send your railroad name and weigh locations to me (omahaduck (at) gmail (dot) com)

thanks for helping. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Scheduled brake test that results in a brake test date stenciled on the brake cylinder

Dave Parker
 

As I understand it (which is not well), the brake-service interval from ~1934 forward depended on whether you are talking about AB or K brakes.  See Tony's blog which utilizes Guy Wilbur as a reference:

http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/search?q=brake+service

A car built in 1949 almost certainly had ABs, but it's worth knowing the whole story ca. 1950.
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Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: Cotton Belt dbl door boxcar

Tim O'Connor
 

Frank

I missed out on many of the Sunshine rebuild kits, although I got that particular car - the 10-8 car.

I missed the SSW 10-2 rebuild with 7/3/7 ends (52.10)



On 10/28/2020 1:58 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
Frank Hodina wrote:

There was a Sunshine kit for that SSW autobox. Think it was released in 2007. Let me know if there's any interest in reissuing this car or the other USRA rebuilds that I did for Martin.

  That's a nice kit. I have the completed car on my layout, too. I would recommend it.

Tony Thompson


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Red Caboose NP reefer kitbash

Jim Betz
 

RJ,
  Just use a simulated "hazardous" label that says "Don't couple with another
NP reefer" and most won't notice the difference in the lettering .... ???
                                                                                                                  - Jim


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] PBR Gondola

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Garth;

 

It doesn’t detract from the fact that it is a rare shot of an uncommon road.

 

The P2K kit was one of the first of theirs I bought, and talk about garish!  I weathered the cr@p out of it to tone it down and look more like a “steel road” car ought to.

 

And thanks again for sharing!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 2:01 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] PBR Gondola

 

Elden,

 

Sadly, I wasn't my own photo. I wasn't even born when it was taken. I found the photo in the cheepo jumble box at Hammon the Archivist's shop in Old Sacramento. Getting the tones balanced and removing the scratches were a project taking most of an evening.

 

Yours Aye,

 

 

Garth Groff  🦆

 

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 1:48 PM Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Nice shot!

 

Thanks for sharing, Garth!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 7:16 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] PBR Gondola

 

Sorry sports fans. I forgot the attachment.

 

Garth


Re: Cotton Belt dbl door boxcar

greg snook
 

Absolutely!  I've been chasing several of the USRA rebuilds where possible, and would love to have them available through RCW!
Cheers,
Greg


Re: Red Caboose NP reefer kitbash

Scott
 

RJ,

Great work!  How long did the truss rod stay in service?  Reefer + Truss rods is a win win in my book!

I know how long projects like that can take.  I volunteered to upgrade and custom paint some Rock Island E8s.  It is taking a lifetime and I won't even get to run them!  

Thanks for sharing them!
Scott McDonald 


Re: Cotton Belt dbl door boxcar

O Fenton Wells
 

If you look at the price of Sunshine kits on eBay, especially the less common ones this should sell pretty well.  I also think there is a big demand for 40 ft DD cars.  They seem to go for $70 to $90 a piece on eBay.


On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 1:58 PM Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:
Frank Hodina wrote:

There was a Sunshine kit for that SSW autobox. Think it was released in 2007. Let me know if there's any interest in reissuing this car or the other USRA rebuilds that I did for Martin.

  That's a nice kit. I have the completed car on my layout, too. I would recommend it.

Tony Thompson





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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Red Caboose NP reefer kitbash

Tony Thompson
 

     I like the results on the NP reefers. The fact that the cars are not perfect matches to the prototype is another one of those facts that simply WILL creep into any sizable car fleet.

Tony Thompson




Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] PBR Gondola

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Elden,

Sadly, I wasn't my own photo. I wasn't even born when it was taken. I found the photo in the cheepo jumble box at Hammon the Archivist's shop in Old Sacramento. Getting the tones balanced and removing the scratches were a project taking most of an evening.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 1:48 PM Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Nice shot!

 

Thanks for sharing, Garth!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 7:16 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] PBR Gondola

 

Sorry sports fans. I forgot the attachment.

 

Garth


Re: Red Caboose NP reefer kitbash

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

RJ,

You could think of this as getting 3 times the modeling pleasure from a single car.

I spent a similar amount of time kitbashing several RC refrigerators from R-30-12s to R-30-13s using Tichy R-40 underframe parts per Richard Hendrickson. At least I can brag my WP cars are closer to correct than what RC offered.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 12:47 PM radiodial868 <radiodial57@...> wrote:
I asked about a year ago what could be done with those nicely painted Red Caboose NP Reefers yoiu find on eBay, and with y'alls input, here are the results from working on them now and then over the course of the year.

Roofs are narrowed down Central Valley Model Works. Underframes are from Tichy flatcars with added handbrake force multipliers per the prototype. Compromises?  Doors are not completely correct, as are the roof hatch icing platforms - but then again this wasn't meant to be a scratchbuild.  I spent waaayy too much time on these as it was.  Not sure about the end ladders on the rebuilds, but once again, ya got to have limits.  

In the photos you guys provided, one was of a cool truss-rod version (94000 series) with grabs in the Yellowstone scheme.  Down the rabbit hole I went on that, but duplicated it pretty close.

Since the CVMW roofs came in a 3 pack, I then decided to bash another in the plain post-Yellowstone scheme, using a PFE donor and Microscale decals.  Notice the difference between the NP fonts on the two!  Ugh.
Well, that's it.  What is interesting is that I could have built 9 resin kits in the same manhours it took to do these 3 kitbashes. 
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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA

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