Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights - L&N reweigh stations
Steven D Johnson
I’d really like to see such a comprehensive set done!
Here are some L&N ones we were discussing on the L&N group a while back. There are several messages, so scroll down. Some of these are post-1960, but I still wouldn’t mind them being included to update “steam era” cars…I do model the 1960s too!
Steve Johnson
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:24 AM Charles Peck via Groups.Io <lnnrr152=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote: While I cannot say which ones actually did the most reweighs, I can offer a list. Then I'll point out the ones I remember seeing most often.
BOY Boyles AL COR Corbin KY COV Covington KY DEC DeCoursey KY LOU Louisville KY NAS Nashville TN RAD Radnor TN SLS South Louisville Shops at Louisville KY
The ones I remember seeing most often were SLS, BOY, and RAD. Those may or may not have been the busiest location, merely the ones I saw most often. Chuck Peck
From: Steven D Johnson [mailto:tenncentralrwy@...]
Here’s a thread about this subject from back in 2018. I just forwarded the last e-mail I have on the subject.
Steve Johnson
From: lnrr@... [mailto:lnrr@...]
MOB = Mobile Ala On April 19, 2018 at 7:40 PM "'Steven D Johnson' tenncentralrwy@... [lnrr]" <lnrr@...> wrote: A few more: SLS = South Louisville Shops RAD = Radnor Yard (Nashville) HWL = Howell Yard (Evansville) Also, sometime ca. the early 1980s, “L&N” started being used… I have also seen Lafayette done as “LAFAY”... Older ones were PRS = Paris TN Shops – this abbreviation was in use until just after the NC&StL merger, when the Paris Shops were closed, and LOU for Louisville. I think Stuart is correct about Ravenna. RAV perhaps? Steve Johnson From: lnrr@... [mailto:lnrr@...] Pat, There was also: LOY - Loyall HAZ - Hazard There may also have been a code for Ravenna but I can't remember seeing one off the top of my head. Stuart Thayer
I have been trying to figure out what car shop location abbreviations were used on the L&N between the late 60's and mid 70's, when adoption of the COTS stencil pretty much killed off revision of the periodic shopping code on the left side of the car, as part of the weight/capacity data. I believe during this time frame the periodic inspect/test/reweigh requirements boiled down to every 48 months for cars with roofs, and every 24 months for cars without. The car shop codes I have observed are: DEC - Decoursey KY Pat Dowler,
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
I’ve been kicking around an idea with Hubert Mask on having a decal set made with the most common weight locations by railroad. I have a comprehensive list of Mopac locations but would need help with the other railroads. I told Hubert I’d be happy to compile a list if the group members would send me the top six or eight locations. Obviously I don’t want the full name but the ‘short name’ the railroad used in there stencil. As example for the MP Kingsville was KV, Alexandria was ALEX. The decal sheet would be alphabetized by railroad so if you are wanting to restenciled a ATSF boxcar it would be easy to find. He’ll also include a set of light weights. So the .io list isn’t filled with responses to this topic you can send your railroad name and weigh locations to me (omahaduck (at) gmail (dot) com)
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
hubert mask
Ed is very correct. I will have to look at each railroads font. Will have to hold it to certain amount of roads.
Hubert
On Oct 29, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
Ed Hawkins reminded me that the railroad’s stencils were different so I’ve added a column so the font will be different based on photos. As I mentioned, I’m only selecting the most common weigh stations by railroad and plan to have only 6-8 stations for the larger roads. My cut off year is 1960 and start year is 1935. I did find the reweigh list in the files folder and have it as a starting point. Also adding tare weights to the list based on photo sources. Charlie D.
On Oct 29, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
-- Charlie Duckworth Omaha, Ne.
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights -- L&N reweigh stations
Steven D Johnson
I’d really like to see such a comprehensive set done!
Here are some L&N ones we were discussing on the L&N group a while back. There are several messages, so scroll down. Some of these are post-1960, but I still wouldn’t mind them being included to update “steam era” cars…I do model the 1960s too!
Steve Johnson
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:24 AM Charles Peck via Groups.Io <lnnrr152=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote: While I cannot say which ones actually did the most reweighs, I can offer a list. Then I'll point out the ones I remember seeing most often.
BOY Boyles AL COR Corbin KY COV Covington KY DEC DeCoursey KY LOU Louisville KY NAS Nashville TN RAD Radnor TN SLS South Louisville Shops at Louisville KY
The ones I remember seeing most often were SLS, BOY, and RAD. Those may or may not have been the busiest location, merely the ones I saw most often. Chuck Peck
From: Steven D Johnson [mailto:tenncentralrwy@...]
Here’s a thread about this subject from back in 2018. I just forwarded the last e-mail I have on the subject.
Steve Johnson
From: lnrr@... [mailto:lnrr@...]
MOB = Mobile Ala
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Re: Red Caboose NP reefer kitbash
Very nicely done RJ, good booking model. Fenton
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 11:24 AM radiodial868 <radiodial57@...> wrote: The reweigh date on the 94631 photo is 1937. I model 1939, so figured I was safe. Speaking of that photo, here it is along with my version. --
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
Dave Parker
Jim:
It's not a big file (106 kB). You could try sending it out as an attachment to this group as there seems to be interest based on this thread. And thanks again for your efforts. I think the new tabulation is very helpful. -- Dave Parker Swall Meadows, CA
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
Yeah, one of the drawbacks of the Champ sheets is that the style of the letters and numbers does not match some of the newer, finer, decal efforts. But it is way better than nothing. I have thought about custom printing reweigh dates just for my era of modeling.
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Bruce
Bruce F. Smith Auburn, AL "Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
James Brewer
Dave, I attempted to post it to the Real STMFC files but couldn't; I believe I did forward it to the moderators and requested they post it; if for some reason my memory is incorrect I'd be glad to forward it to the appropriate moderator for posting to this group's files. Jim Brewer
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 06:10 AM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
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Re: Red Caboose NP reefer kitbash
radiodial868
The reweigh date on the 94631 photo is 1937. I model 1939, so figured I was safe. Speaking of that photo, here it is along with my version.
I would like to be able to credit the photographer, anyone know who it is and/or what collection it is in? -- ------------------- RJ Dial Mendocino, CA
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
Dave Parker
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 06:10 AM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
Earlier this year, Jim Brewer spend quite a bit of time updating this spreadsheet, garnering many corrections and additions from multiple sources. There is a May draft in the files section of this group, but it is the July revision that you would want. That version has been posted to both the Resin Freight Car Builders and and Plastic Model Freight Car Builders groups. It is a significant improvement over the older version that has been kicking around for years (thanks Jim!) -- Dave Parker Swall Meadows, CA
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
I have them and I've used them, but a Microscale sized sheet with hundreds of dates from the 1940's to ~1965 (when the stencil practice mostly ended) is what I really need. For example Ted Culotta's beautiful SP box car decal sheets have tons of small data... but the dates in the mid to late 1950's are very few
On 10/29/2020 10:34 AM, Bruce Smith wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
Rob Schoenberg's website, http://prr.railfan.net/, has a complete list of PRR scale locations with stencil codes. However, his list is from 1923, so there were changes (plus and minus) over the years. I think there is another more recent list on someone else's PRR website, but I can't remember which one (maybe Jerry Britton's?).
-- John
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
I have used the spreadsheet (posted by Jim Brewer) as a reference many times and I can't recall any errors - Most of the time the problem is finding decals to match the symbols.
On 10/29/2020 9:10 AM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
I’ll certainly add reweigh dates thanks for reminding me.
On Oct 29, 2020, at 9:34 AM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
Champ decals did this. They subdivided the railroads by region, and then provided reweigh codes for each railroad. They also provided a separate sheet of reweigh dates.
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 8:10:51 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Decals for scale locations and light weights Charlie Duckworth wrote:
"I’ve been kicking around an idea with Hubert Mask on having a decal set made with the most common weight locations by railroad. I have a comprehensive list of Mopac locations but would need help with the other railroads. I told Hubert I’d be happy
to compile a list if the group members would send me the top six or eight locations. Obviously I don’t want the full name but the ‘short name’ the railroad used in there stencil. As example for the MP Kingsville was KV, Alexandria was ALEX. The decal sheet
would be alphabetized by railroad so if you are wanting to restenciled a ATSF boxcar it would be easy to find. He’ll also include a set of light weights."
Check the group Files section for the Reweigh Symbol spreadsheet. It's crowdsourced and could probably use a bit of QA, but it's been there for years.
Ben Hom
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
Mont Switzer
Charlie,
Monon locations all in Indiana. They are inspection and reweigh locations which should include air brake systems.
M.C. Michigan City S.H. South Hammond LAF Lafayette Shops MID Midland IND Belt Jct. (Indianapolis) W.JCT Wallace Jct. McD McDoel (Bloomington)
Mont Switzer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] on behalf of Charlie Duckworth [omahaduck@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 8:49 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Decals for scale locations and light weights I’ve been kicking around an idea with Hubert Mask on having a decal set made with the most common weight locations by railroad. I have a comprehensive list of Mopac locations but would need help with the other railroads. I told Hubert I’d be happy to compile a list if the group members would send me the top six or eight locations. Obviously I don’t want the full name but the ‘short name’ the railroad used in there stencil. As example for the MP Kingsville was KV, Alexandria was ALEX. The decal sheet would be alphabetized by railroad so if you are wanting to restenciled a ATSF boxcar it would be easy to find. He’ll also include a set of light weights. So the .io list isn’t filled with responses to this topic you can send your railroad name and weigh locations to me (omahaduck (at) gmail (dot) com)
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
Benjamin Hom
Charlie Duckworth wrote: "I’ve been kicking around an idea with Hubert Mask on having a decal set made with the most common weight locations by railroad. I have a comprehensive list of Mopac locations but would need help with the other railroads. I told Hubert I’d be happy to compile a list if the group members would send me the top six or eight locations. Obviously I don’t want the full name but the ‘short name’ the railroad used in there stencil. As example for the MP Kingsville was KV, Alexandria was ALEX. The decal sheet would be alphabetized by railroad so if you are wanting to restenciled a ATSF boxcar it would be easy to find. He’ll also include a set of light weights." Check the group Files section for the Reweigh Symbol spreadsheet. It's crowdsourced and could probably use a bit of QA, but it's been there for years. Ben Hom
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Decals for scale locations and light weights
I’ve been kicking around an idea with Hubert Mask on having a decal set made with the most common weight locations by railroad. I have a comprehensive list of Mopac locations but would need help with the other railroads. I told Hubert I’d be happy to compile a list if the group members would send me the top six or eight locations. Obviously I don’t want the full name but the ‘short name’ the railroad used in there stencil. As example for the MP Kingsville was KV, Alexandria was ALEX. The decal sheet would be alphabetized by railroad so if you are wanting to restenciled a ATSF boxcar it would be easy to find. He’ll also include a set of light weights. So the .io list isn’t filled with responses to this topic you can send your railroad name and weigh locations to me (omahaduck (at) gmail (dot) com)
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Re: Scheduled brake test that results in a brake test date stenciled on the brake cylinder
Dave Parker
As I understand it (which is not well), the brake-service interval from ~1934 forward depended on whether you are talking about AB or K brakes. See Tony's blog which utilizes Guy Wilbur as a reference:
http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/search?q=brake+service A car built in 1949 almost certainly had ABs, but it's worth knowing the whole story ca. 1950. -- Dave Parker Swall Meadows, CA
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Re: Cotton Belt dbl door boxcar
Frank I missed out on many of the Sunshine rebuild kits, although I got that particular car - the 10-8 car. I missed the SSW 10-2 rebuild with 7/3/7 ends (52.10)
On 10/28/2020 1:58 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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