Photo: CN Gondola 140213 (1938)
Photo: CN Gondola 140213 (1938) A photo from the National Archives of Canada: https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3525637 This photo can be enlarged quite a bit. This car was built in 1931. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photo: Central Vermont Automobile Boxcar 41099 (1929)
Photo: Central Vermont Automobile Boxcar 41099 (1929) A photo from the National Archives of Canada: https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3520056 This photo can be enlarged quite a bit. Car built in 1929. Caption may be in error..."Dressed Steel Car Company"? Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photo: CN Automobile Boxcar 587000 (1937)
Photo: CN Automobile Boxcar 587000 (1937) A photo from the National Archives of Canada: https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3520054 This photo can be enlarged quite a bit. Caption is missing a zero. Car built 1936. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photo: CN Boxcar 11069 (1939)
Photo: CN Boxcar 11069 (1939) A photo from the National Archives of Canada: https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3533674 This photo can be enlarged quite a bit. This car appears to be brand new. Built 1939. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Red Caboose NP reefer kitbash
Brian Stokes
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
Hubert The Union Pacific needs white, black, red and yellow reweigh shop stencils, lube stencils, freight car classes, built dates, and actual load limit and light weight stencils both pre-1963 and post-1963!! (Gross Rail Load values increased for all freight cars in 1963 and every car had to be reweighed and restenciled) I'm just sayin' :-) But I'd be very interested in the above. And there are other roads that need multiple colors too. And you could figure out how to compile all that on a sheet for one major railroad (or set of roads) then use that layout as a 'template' for other roads. In my opinion you can cover a lot of territory with "roman" and "gothic" type because the sizes are so small - 1" 2" 3" so fine distinctions are a lot harder to see and don't matter unless you're building a museum piece. But there are exceptions I'm sure like NYC and PC modern styles etc.
On 10/29/2020 12:15 PM, hubert mask wrote:
Ed is very correct. I will have to look at each railroads font. Will have to hold it to certain amount of roads.
-- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
Mont Switzer
Charlie,
Most common locations on the Monon were:
S.H. South Hammond, IN LAF Lafayette, IN Shops McD McDoel Yard, Bloomington, IN
Mont Switzer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] on behalf of Charlie Duckworth [omahaduck@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 3:28 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Decals for scale locations and light weights Im using the spreadsheet on the files and I don’t need every scale location that was on the railroads just the most common ones. If someone can send me the 8 most common scales on the PRR, SP, SOU, NYC I’d appreciate it.
Charlie
-- Charlie Duckworth Omaha, Ne.
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Need broadside photo of OSL #3029-54 short caboose
#3029-54
wahsatch
I'd like to build a couple models in O to use behind the OSL 4-6-0 I'm accumulating brass for. If the boards are not CS 3.25" [sheet available from Evergreen] then the O scale indexer I'm building using a 8 tpi screw & nut from a car jack could be used.
Thanks for any help.
-=- Bob Colquitt "All Dressed Up and No Place to Go"- Oscar Levant
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
Im using the spreadsheet on the files and I don’t need every scale location that was on the railroads just the most common ones. If someone can send me the 8 most common scales on the PRR, SP, SOU, NYC I’d appreciate it.
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Charlie
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Charlie Duckworth Omaha, Ne.
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Re: Cotton Belt dbl door boxcar
Warming to the idea of having to wait for a RCW reissue of the Sunshine kit. Unless someone makes the 7-3-7 ends and they are easily available. Don't think I could cut and repiece the Tichy 5-5-5 end into a 7-3-7 convincingly.
-- Ken Adams Still in splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Bruce, At least Champ did TRY to match the lettering style to each road's preference. Their sheets included Railroad Roman and Gothic "fonts", and to some extent the sizes reflected the railroad's style. I'm sure they made some booboos, but it was a good attempt. On a related topic, I would love to see a sheet with a selection of data for various classes of tank cars, test dates, etc. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 11:27 AM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights - L&N reweigh stations
Steven D Johnson
I’d really like to see such a comprehensive set done!
Here are some L&N ones we were discussing on the L&N group a while back. There are several messages, so scroll down. Some of these are post-1960, but I still wouldn’t mind them being included to update “steam era” cars…I do model the 1960s too!
Steve Johnson
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:24 AM Charles Peck via Groups.Io <lnnrr152=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote: While I cannot say which ones actually did the most reweighs, I can offer a list. Then I'll point out the ones I remember seeing most often.
BOY Boyles AL COR Corbin KY COV Covington KY DEC DeCoursey KY LOU Louisville KY NAS Nashville TN RAD Radnor TN SLS South Louisville Shops at Louisville KY
The ones I remember seeing most often were SLS, BOY, and RAD. Those may or may not have been the busiest location, merely the ones I saw most often. Chuck Peck
From: Steven D Johnson [mailto:tenncentralrwy@...]
Here’s a thread about this subject from back in 2018. I just forwarded the last e-mail I have on the subject.
Steve Johnson
From: lnrr@... [mailto:lnrr@...]
MOB = Mobile Ala On April 19, 2018 at 7:40 PM "'Steven D Johnson' tenncentralrwy@... [lnrr]" <lnrr@...> wrote: A few more: SLS = South Louisville Shops RAD = Radnor Yard (Nashville) HWL = Howell Yard (Evansville) Also, sometime ca. the early 1980s, “L&N” started being used… I have also seen Lafayette done as “LAFAY”... Older ones were PRS = Paris TN Shops – this abbreviation was in use until just after the NC&StL merger, when the Paris Shops were closed, and LOU for Louisville. I think Stuart is correct about Ravenna. RAV perhaps? Steve Johnson From: lnrr@... [mailto:lnrr@...] Pat, There was also: LOY - Loyall HAZ - Hazard There may also have been a code for Ravenna but I can't remember seeing one off the top of my head. Stuart Thayer
I have been trying to figure out what car shop location abbreviations were used on the L&N between the late 60's and mid 70's, when adoption of the COTS stencil pretty much killed off revision of the periodic shopping code on the left side of the car, as part of the weight/capacity data. I believe during this time frame the periodic inspect/test/reweigh requirements boiled down to every 48 months for cars with roofs, and every 24 months for cars without. The car shop codes I have observed are: DEC - Decoursey KY Pat Dowler,
L&N Railroad Historical Society Web Page:
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
I’ve been kicking around an idea with Hubert Mask on having a decal set made with the most common weight locations by railroad. I have a comprehensive list of Mopac locations but would need help with the other railroads. I told Hubert I’d be happy to compile a list if the group members would send me the top six or eight locations. Obviously I don’t want the full name but the ‘short name’ the railroad used in there stencil. As example for the MP Kingsville was KV, Alexandria was ALEX. The decal sheet would be alphabetized by railroad so if you are wanting to restenciled a ATSF boxcar it would be easy to find. He’ll also include a set of light weights. So the .io list isn’t filled with responses to this topic you can send your railroad name and weigh locations to me (omahaduck (at) gmail (dot) com)
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
hubert mask
Ed is very correct. I will have to look at each railroads font. Will have to hold it to certain amount of roads.
Hubert
On Oct 29, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
Ed Hawkins reminded me that the railroad’s stencils were different so I’ve added a column so the font will be different based on photos. As I mentioned, I’m only selecting the most common weigh stations by railroad and plan to have only 6-8 stations for the larger roads. My cut off year is 1960 and start year is 1935. I did find the reweigh list in the files folder and have it as a starting point. Also adding tare weights to the list based on photo sources. Charlie D.
On Oct 29, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
-- Charlie Duckworth Omaha, Ne.
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights -- L&N reweigh stations
Steven D Johnson
I’d really like to see such a comprehensive set done!
Here are some L&N ones we were discussing on the L&N group a while back. There are several messages, so scroll down. Some of these are post-1960, but I still wouldn’t mind them being included to update “steam era” cars…I do model the 1960s too!
Steve Johnson
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:24 AM Charles Peck via Groups.Io <lnnrr152=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote: While I cannot say which ones actually did the most reweighs, I can offer a list. Then I'll point out the ones I remember seeing most often.
BOY Boyles AL COR Corbin KY COV Covington KY DEC DeCoursey KY LOU Louisville KY NAS Nashville TN RAD Radnor TN SLS South Louisville Shops at Louisville KY
The ones I remember seeing most often were SLS, BOY, and RAD. Those may or may not have been the busiest location, merely the ones I saw most often. Chuck Peck
From: Steven D Johnson [mailto:tenncentralrwy@...]
Here’s a thread about this subject from back in 2018. I just forwarded the last e-mail I have on the subject.
Steve Johnson
From: lnrr@... [mailto:lnrr@...]
MOB = Mobile Ala
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Re: Red Caboose NP reefer kitbash
Very nicely done RJ, good booking model. Fenton
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 11:24 AM radiodial868 <radiodial57@...> wrote: The reweigh date on the 94631 photo is 1937. I model 1939, so figured I was safe. Speaking of that photo, here it is along with my version. --
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
Dave Parker
Jim:
It's not a big file (106 kB). You could try sending it out as an attachment to this group as there seems to be interest based on this thread. And thanks again for your efforts. I think the new tabulation is very helpful. -- Dave Parker Swall Meadows, CA
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
Yeah, one of the drawbacks of the Champ sheets is that the style of the letters and numbers does not match some of the newer, finer, decal efforts. But it is way better than nothing. I have thought about custom printing reweigh dates just for my era of modeling.
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Regards
Bruce
Bruce F. Smith Auburn, AL "Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights
James Brewer
Dave, I attempted to post it to the Real STMFC files but couldn't; I believe I did forward it to the moderators and requested they post it; if for some reason my memory is incorrect I'd be glad to forward it to the appropriate moderator for posting to this group's files. Jim Brewer
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 06:10 AM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
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Re: Red Caboose NP reefer kitbash
radiodial868
The reweigh date on the 94631 photo is 1937. I model 1939, so figured I was safe. Speaking of that photo, here it is along with my version.
I would like to be able to credit the photographer, anyone know who it is and/or what collection it is in? -- ------------------- RJ Dial Mendocino, CA
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