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Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights

Steve SANDIFER
 

Those with double asterisk: KC, FM, TS, WC, CY, AQ, LJ, SB

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 8:01 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Decals for scale locations and light weights

 

Stephen 

I don’t want to guess; can you provide the 6-8 most common Santa Fe scales for light weights?

 

Charlie 



On Oct 29, 2020, at 10:23 PM, James SANDIFER <steve.sandifer@...> wrote:



Here is the Santa Fe list.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 7:50 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Decals for scale locations and light weights

 

I’ve been kicking around an idea with Hubert Mask on having a decal set made with the most common weight locations by railroad.  I have a comprehensive list of Mopac locations but would need help with the other railroads.   I told Hubert I’d be happy to compile a list if the group members would send me the top six or eight locations.  Obviously I don’t want the full name but the ‘short name’ the railroad used in there stencil.  As example for the MP Kingsville was KV, Alexandria was ALEX. The decal sheet would be alphabetized by railroad so if you are wanting to restenciled a ATSF boxcar it would be easy to find.   He’ll also include a set of light weights.  

So the .io list isn’t filled with responses to this topic you can send your railroad name and weigh locations to me (omahaduck (at) gmail (dot) com)

thanks for helping. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.

Attachments:


--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Layout tour

mel perry
 

jim:
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not be foud"?
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2020, 8:45 AM James SANDIFER <steve.sandifer@...> wrote:

Every year the San Jacinto Model Railroad Club has November Open Houses – but Covid…. So we are virtual this year. You can view some of our Houston layouts at http://sanjacmodeltrains.org/Fall-Layout-Tour.html          . Some layouts are just beginning, some are virtually complete. For this group that likes scratch building, look at Barry Bogs F scale layout – virtually every loco and car is scratchbuilt along with structures. If you like detailed scenery – Cliff Cheeseman’s is hard to beat. Gil Freitag was one of the first to initiate operations in Houston, and his layout has been featured in MR 3-4 times. My layout is in the group as well.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 


Photo: Inflammable Placard (1926)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Inflammable Placard (1926)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3349104

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

I'll bet you didn't know maple sugar could burst into flames. Probably good for pancakes flambé. 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Layout tour

Steve SANDIFER
 

Every year the San Jacinto Model Railroad Club has November Open Houses – but Covid…. So we are virtual this year. You can view some of our Houston layouts at http://sanjacmodeltrains.org/Fall-Layout-Tour.html          . Some layouts are just beginning, some are virtually complete. For this group that likes scratch building, look at Barry Bogs F scale layout – virtually every loco and car is scratchbuilt along with structures. If you like detailed scenery – Cliff Cheeseman’s is hard to beat. Gil Freitag was one of the first to initiate operations in Houston, and his layout has been featured in MR 3-4 times. My layout is in the group as well.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 


Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights

Charlie Duckworth
 

Stephen 
I don’t want to guess; can you provide the 6-8 most common Santa Fe scales for light weights?

Charlie 

On Oct 29, 2020, at 10:23 PM, James SANDIFER <steve.sandifer@...> wrote:



Here is the Santa Fe list.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 7:50 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Decals for scale locations and light weights

 

I’ve been kicking around an idea with Hubert Mask on having a decal set made with the most common weight locations by railroad.  I have a comprehensive list of Mopac locations but would need help with the other railroads.   I told Hubert I’d be happy to compile a list if the group members would send me the top six or eight locations.  Obviously I don’t want the full name but the ‘short name’ the railroad used in there stencil.  As example for the MP Kingsville was KV, Alexandria was ALEX. The decal sheet would be alphabetized by railroad so if you are wanting to restenciled a ATSF boxcar it would be easy to find.   He’ll also include a set of light weights.  

So the .io list isn’t filled with responses to this topic you can send your railroad name and weigh locations to me (omahaduck (at) gmail (dot) com)

thanks for helping. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.

Attachments:


--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Adventures in details

Eric Hansmann
 

I’ve shared my latest freight car kit detailing adventure in a blog post. Eventually, these models will be completed. 
http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2020/10/30/pay-attention/


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN


Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights

Steve SANDIFER
 

Here is the Santa Fe list.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 7:50 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Decals for scale locations and light weights

 

I’ve been kicking around an idea with Hubert Mask on having a decal set made with the most common weight locations by railroad.  I have a comprehensive list of Mopac locations but would need help with the other railroads.   I told Hubert I’d be happy to compile a list if the group members would send me the top six or eight locations.  Obviously I don’t want the full name but the ‘short name’ the railroad used in there stencil.  As example for the MP Kingsville was KV, Alexandria was ALEX. The decal sheet would be alphabetized by railroad so if you are wanting to restenciled a ATSF boxcar it would be easy to find.   He’ll also include a set of light weights.  

So the .io list isn’t filled with responses to this topic you can send your railroad name and weigh locations to me (omahaduck (at) gmail (dot) com)

thanks for helping. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Photo: Central Vermont Automobile Boxcar 41099 (1929)

lrkdbn
 

I clicked on the link provided but do see a photo,only the archive listing What am I doing wrong?
Larry King


Re: Photo: Central Vermont Automobile Boxcar 41099 (1929)

Ralph W. Brown
 

Hi Ken,

According to the inscription at the bottom of the photo - yes.

Pax,


Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

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From: "Kenneth Montero"
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday October 29 2020 10:02:06PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Central Vermont Automobile Boxcar 41099 (1929)

Could it be Pressed Steel Car Company? 
Ken Montero



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "Bob Chaparro via groups.io" <chiefbobbb@...>
Date: 10/29/20 8:43 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Central Vermont Automobile Boxcar 41099 (1929)

Photo: Central Vermont Automobile Boxcar 41099 (1929)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3520056

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Car built in 1929.

Caption may be in error..."Dressed Steel Car Company"?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Central Vermont Automobile Boxcar 41099 (1929)

Kenneth Montero
 

Could it be Pressed Steel Car Company? 
Ken Montero



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "Bob Chaparro via groups.io" <chiefbobbb@...>
Date: 10/29/20 8:43 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Central Vermont Automobile Boxcar 41099 (1929)

Photo: Central Vermont Automobile Boxcar 41099 (1929)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3520056

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Car built in 1929.

Caption may be in error..."Dressed Steel Car Company"?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: B&S Gondola With Christmas Tree Load (1916)

David
 

Yes, this was Buffalo & Susquehanna's typical steel gondola. Original series were 10001-11250 and 11601-12600, built by Pressed Steel Car in 1905-07; these were about half of the total B&S fleet in 1919.

David Thompson


Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights -- L&N reweigh stations

Curt Fortenberry
 


My L&N hooper set has a variety of L&N shops.  

Curt Fortenberry 


Photo: B&S Gondola With Christmas Tree Load (1916)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: B&S Gondola With Christmas Tree Load (1916)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3382120

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Buffalo & Susquehanna Railroad?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: CN Gondola 140213 (1938)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: CN Gondola 140213 (1938)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3525637

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

This car was built in 1931.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Central Vermont Automobile Boxcar 41099 (1929)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Central Vermont Automobile Boxcar 41099 (1929)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3520056

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Car built in 1929.

Caption may be in error..."Dressed Steel Car Company"?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: CN Automobile Boxcar 587000 (1937)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: CN Automobile Boxcar 587000 (1937)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3520054

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Caption is missing a zero.

Car built 1936.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: CN Boxcar 11069 (1939)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: CN Boxcar 11069 (1939)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3533674

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

This car appears to be brand new. Built 1939.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Red Caboose NP reefer kitbash

Brian Stokes
 

Very nice! Now, where to get the proper roof in O scale...?

Brian

--
Brian Stokes
North Point Street in Proto:48


Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights

Tim O'Connor
 

Hubert

The Union Pacific needs white, black, red and yellow reweigh shop stencils, lube stencils, freight car classes, built dates,
and actual load limit and light weight stencils both pre-1963 and post-1963!! (Gross Rail Load values increased for all
freight cars in 1963 and every car had to be reweighed and restenciled)

I'm just sayin' :-)

But I'd be very interested in the above. And there are other roads that need multiple colors too. And you could figure out
how to compile all that on a sheet for one major railroad (or set of roads) then use that layout as a 'template' for other roads.

In my opinion you can cover a lot of territory with "roman" and "gothic" type because the sizes are so small - 1" 2" 3" so
fine distinctions are a lot harder to see and don't matter unless you're building a museum piece. But there are exceptions
I'm sure like NYC and PC modern styles etc.



On 10/29/2020 12:15 PM, hubert mask wrote:
Ed is very correct.  I will have to look at each railroads font.   Will have to hold it to certain amount of roads.

Hubert 


On Oct 29, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:

Ed Hawkins reminded me that the railroad’s stencils were different so I’ve added a column so the font will be different based on photos.   As I mentioned,  I’m only selecting the most common weigh stations by railroad and plan to have only 6-8 stations for the larger roads.  My cut off year is 1960 and start year is 1935.   I did find the reweigh list in the files folder and have it as a starting point.   Also adding tare weights to the list based on photo sources.  

Charlie D. 

On Oct 29, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:

 Yeah, one of the drawbacks of the Champ sheets is that the style of the letters and numbers does not match some of the newer, finer, decal efforts. But it is way better than nothing. I have thought about custom printing reweigh dates just for my era of modeling.

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




On Oct 29, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


I have them and I've used them, but a Microscale sized sheet with hundreds of dates from the 1940's to ~1965 (when the
stencil practice mostly ended) is what I really need. For example Ted Culotta's beautiful SP box car decal sheets have tons
of small data... but the dates in the mid to late 1950's are very few


On 10/29/2020 10:34 AM, Bruce Smith wrote:
Champ decals did this. They subdivided the railroads by region, and then provided reweigh codes for each railroad. They also provided a separate sheet of reweigh dates.


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 8:10:51 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Decals for scale locations and light weights
 
Charlie Duckworth wrote:
"I’ve been kicking around an idea with Hubert Mask on having a decal set made with the most common weight locations by railroad.  I have a comprehensive list of Mopac locations but would need help with the other railroads.   I told Hubert I’d be happy to compile a list if the group members would send me the top six or eight locations.  Obviously I don’t want the full name but the ‘short name’ the railroad used in there stencil.  As example for the MP Kingsville was KV, Alexandria was ALEX. The decal sheet would be alphabetized by railroad so if you are wanting to restenciled a ATSF boxcar it would be easy to find.   He’ll also include a set of light weights."

Check the group Files section for the Reweigh Symbol spreadsheet.  It's crowdsourced and could probably use a bit of QA, but it's been there for years.


Ben Hom


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights

Mont Switzer
 

Charlie,

 

Most common locations on the Monon were:

 

S.H.    South Hammond, IN

LAF    Lafayette, IN Shops

McD    McDoel Yard, Bloomington, IN

 

Mont Switzer

 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] on behalf of Charlie Duckworth [omahaduck@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 3:28 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Decals for scale locations and light weights

Im using the spreadsheet on the files and I don’t need every scale location that was on the railroads just the most common ones.  If someone can send me the 8 most common scales on the PRR, SP, SOU, NYC I’d appreciate it.

Charlie

On Oct 29, 2020, at 9:51 AM, John Sykes III via groups.io <johnsykesiii@...> wrote:

Rob Schoenberg's website, http://prr.railfan.net/, has a complete list of PRR scale locations with stencil codes.  However, his list is from 1923, so there were changes (plus and minus) over the years.  I think there is another more recent list on someone else's PRR website, but I can't remember which one (maybe Jerry Britton's?).

-- John


--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.

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