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Photo: CN Boxcar Truck (1937)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: CN Boxcar Truck (1937)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3351119

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Frame reads "Symington Double Truss".

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
Photo: C&O Hopper 122699

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: C&O Hopper 122699

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=4118760

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Car built in 1934.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
Photo: CN Eight-Hatch Reefer 209500 (1941)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: CN Eight-Hatch Reefer 209500 (1941)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3514331

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Car built in 1939.

I understand PFE and Fruit Growers also had a few refrigerator cars of the eight hatch/overhead bunker design.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
Photo: CN Tank Car 990870 (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: CN Tank Car 990870 (Undated)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3353755

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Car built 1930.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
Photos: Grand Truck Gondola 79799 (1927)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photos: Grand Truck Gondola 79799 (1927)

Photos from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3349576

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3349575

Photos can be enlarged quite a bit.

Built 1923

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
Re: Lipstick on a pig - detailing an Accurail box car

Paul Doggett
 

Looking Good Clark I look forward to seeing the finished cars.

Paul Doggett 


On 31 Oct 2020, at 16:22, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:

In the past I've detailed a couple Accurail single sheathed cars for CB&Q and MKT and wasn't looking forward to do it again. I picked this model up from an estate cheap and thought alls I needed to do was carve off the grabs and replace them with Tichy...Dummy me. I made the mistake of getting out the Milwaukee freight car color book. It has several pictures of cars like the model. First off I noticed the diagonal corner straps and the door stop. Then I noticed the model had the post 53 tilted box emblem and I model 48-50, so what the hell I'll add the straps which meant the ladder had to come off. I found some leftover resin ones that were close enough replacements. The ends took the most work scrapping off everything except the two center verticals. I did reuse the brake step. About half way through it dawned on me I had a Sunshine model of this car! Gave it a quick once over to see if I was on the right track and mostly followed the book's photos. The model's been washed, waiting for it to dry then I'll paint with Scalecoat so it'll be awhile before I can decal. 
Clark Propst

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Lipstick on a pig - detailing an Accurail box car

Clark Propst
 

In the past I've detailed a couple Accurail single sheathed cars for CB&Q and MKT and wasn't looking forward to do it again. I picked this model up from an estate cheap and thought alls I needed to do was carve off the grabs and replace them with Tichy...Dummy me. I made the mistake of getting out the Milwaukee freight car color book. It has several pictures of cars like the model. First off I noticed the diagonal corner straps and the door stop. Then I noticed the model had the post 53 tilted box emblem and I model 48-50, so what the hell I'll add the straps which meant the ladder had to come off. I found some leftover resin ones that were close enough replacements. The ends took the most work scrapping off everything except the two center verticals. I did reuse the brake step. About half way through it dawned on me I had a Sunshine model of this car! Gave it a quick once over to see if I was on the right track and mostly followed the book's photos. The model's been washed, waiting for it to dry then I'll paint with Scalecoat so it'll be awhile before I can decal. 
Clark Propst
Re: In memory of Stan Rydarowicz

Schuyler Larrabee
 

He didn’t cringe when I said Rye-Dare-o-witz.   Stan, I knew I could handle, but I agree the last name was a challenge.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy Carlson
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 10:14 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] In memory of Stan Rydarowicz

 

I could never pronounce Stan's name correctly, let alone remember his spelling. As I wrote my post I did an on-line search and came up with Sherman's lament.

-Andy Carlson

Ojai CA

 

On Saturday, October 31, 2020, 5:34:32 AM PDT, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

 

 

Stan *Rydarowicz*.
https://www.kinnickfuneralhome.com/notices/Stanley-Rydarowicz/guest-book

“I think I know what military fame is; to be killed on the field of battle and have your name misspelled in the newspapers.” - William Tecumseh Sherman

Ben Hom

 
Re: Pacific Fruit Express Reefers 47269 and 47312 Upgrade

Bill McClure
 

Beautiful work, Lester. Thanks for sharing the details.

Bill
Re: NH Boxcars

Peter Ness
 

1955 was when the repaint and renumbering on the New Haven 30000-series boxcars began.  This boxcars were sold to Hyman-Michaels and leased back by the New Haven starting in 1955.  The first few boxcars (1-3 total) were renumbered but repainted in the prior freight car red with script herald before the “McGinnis schemes” developed by Herbert Matter were approved with drawings and applied.

 

Mrs. McGinnis’s involvement with the paint scheme was limited to the EP-5 electric motors; On a visit to preview the first two units, one was painted yellow/black/white, the other painted red-orange/black/white.  The story goes she was dressed in a red/black/white color combination for the visit, which influenced the final color scheme decision.

 

These boxcars were 10’ IH 1937 AAR design and the Red Caboose as well as Intermountain and Branchline models are accurate models. The freight cars page on my website has information on these cars and models.  Goggle New Haven Railroad in 1959 for a link.

 

Stay healthy,

Peter Ness

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Allen Cain
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 4:28 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] NH Boxcars

 

When did New Haven first start painting boxcars in the bright orange and orange and black paint schemes?

 

I attached an image of the Red Caboose HO model as an example.  They also do one with an orange body and black door.  Did the two versions first appear at the same time or at different times?

 

Much appreciated!

 

Allen Cain
In memory of Stan Rydarowicz

Andy Carlson
 

I could never pronounce Stan's name correctly, let alone remember his spelling. As I wrote my post I did an on-line search and came up with Sherman's lament.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Saturday, October 31, 2020, 5:34:32 AM PDT, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:


Stan *Rydarowicz*.
https://www.kinnickfuneralhome.com/notices/Stanley-Rydarowicz/guest-book

“I think I know what military fame is; to be killed on the field of battle and have your name misspelled in the newspapers.” - William Tecumseh Sherman

Ben Hom
Re: In memory of Stan Rydarowicz, a steam era Kit bashing

Benjamin Hom
 

Stan *Rydarowicz*.
https://www.kinnickfuneralhome.com/notices/Stanley-Rydarowicz/guest-book

“I think I know what military fame is; to be killed on the field of battle and have your name misspelled in the newspapers.” - William Tecumseh Sherman

Ben Hom
Re: In memory of Stan Rydardicz, a steam era Kit bashing

O Fenton Wells
 




On Oct 30, 2020, at 9:46 PM, Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:


Hello Everyone-

New resin ends for a long planned kitbash. Stan drew my appreciation in his way of finding projects which could be facilitated by making some resin parts. with the interest generated from the recent RPC #35 book I think it is time to talk about doing an early 1937 AAR box car in HO.

First, a little background. Intermountain made the tooling for the IMWX '37 AAR box car as part of the "divorce" from a founding member leaving the company. Though the car was nicely done, it did have an error which was passed down from Intermountain's earlier made 'O' scale '37 AAR box car. The floor stringers are not in the proper location. I believe that the tool maker must have thought that the cars should have 3 stringers and before the 3rd one could be cut, decided to leave the remaining 2 stringers alone. This was unfortunate, as those remaining 2 are not correctly placed. After the sell of the IMWX tooling to Red Caboose, Intermountain felt compelled to offer their own '37 box car. While made well in some aspects, such as the separate ends, problems emerged with a big mistake in the roof panels (too wide) and furthering the repeated errors of the floor stringers. In addition, the bolsters were poorly designed and have made all cars with this frame to ride too high.

Later, Branchline Models made their only "shake-the-box" kit, also a '37 AAR box car. It has been mostly off the radar due to its molded on parts. This Yardmaster brand car is, however, a nicely tooled car. It has a very nice under frame of the earlier version of single floor stringers. The car side's rivets are very well done as well as the Murphy raised panel roof.

Some one could commit to a large project by filing off the ladders, grabs and end brake gear, such as what Richard Hendrickson did years ago with the Athearn 40' box cars. Side ladders are not too difficult to remove, but the end ladders, grabs and brake removal is a lot of work.

A positive design of the Yardmaster kit is that the ends are separate parts which means if another 4/5 end can be found, most of the grunt work is done, leaving just the sides to have their ladders relatively easily removed.

Since this Yardmaster kit has the earlier single floor stringers, I feel that these Yardmaster kits would be a useful project for a quality early '37 AAR box car. The earliest '37 cars had square corner ends so I looked into seeing if an end I was gifted from a friend years ago would work. Wayne Madison made his 4/5 end from Terry Wegmanns' 4/4 sq corner ends with which he did a lot of work to remove ladder brackets and adding the extra bottom 5th rib.

So now a quality kit bash of the Yardmaster '37 AAR box car using resin ends will make a car which has correct ride height, good roof and a nice correct, for early cars, under frame. Stan would approve, I am certain!

I now have a mold for the Wayne Madison end. I am offering a pair of these resin ends which fits the Yardmaster '37 AAR box car well. Price is $7 pair and includes a sprue of Red Caboose bracket grabs. I accept checks and with a small fee PayPal is welcomed. Sadly, the post office rates for 1st class mailing is somewhat expensive. Buyer will need to pay $4.80 shipping. Contact me of-list for details at <midcentury@...>

Do well, everyone
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA
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Re: Pacific Fruit Express Reefers 47269 and 47312 Upgrade

O Fenton Wells
 

Good read and good modeling Lester, thanks for sharing
Fenton 


On Oct 31, 2020, at 6:37 AM, Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472@...> wrote:

Lester 

More fine work.

Paul Doggett


On 31 Oct 2020, at 02:17, Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:



I have upgraded two Pacific Fruit Express (PFE), Refrigerator Cars 47269 and 47312, PFE Class R-40-23.  If you are interested in the upgrade of these reefers including changes, addition of parts not in the kit and additional lettering.  Photos and writeup of the upgrade process including painting, lettering and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

  

Lester Breuer
Re: Pacific Fruit Express Reefers 47269 and 47312 Upgrade

Paul Doggett
 

Lester 

More fine work.

Paul Doggett


On 31 Oct 2020, at 02:17, Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:



I have upgraded two Pacific Fruit Express (PFE), Refrigerator Cars 47269 and 47312, PFE Class R-40-23.  If you are interested in the upgrade of these reefers including changes, addition of parts not in the kit and additional lettering.  Photos and writeup of the upgrade process including painting, lettering and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

  

Lester Breuer
Pacific Fruit Express Reefers 47269 and 47312 Upgrade

Lester Breuer
 

I have upgraded two Pacific Fruit Express (PFE), Refrigerator Cars 47269 and 47312, PFE Class R-40-23.  If you are interested in the upgrade of these reefers including changes, addition of parts not in the kit and additional lettering.  Photos and writeup of the upgrade process including painting, lettering and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

  

Lester Breuer
In memory of Stan Rydardicz, a steam era Kit bashing

Andy Carlson
 

Hello Everyone-

New resin ends for a long planned kitbash. Stan drew my appreciation in his way of finding projects which could be facilitated by making some resin parts. with the interest generated from the recent RPC #35 book I think it is time to talk about doing an early 1937 AAR box car in HO.

First, a little background. Intermountain made the tooling for the IMWX '37 AAR box car as part of the "divorce" from a founding member leaving the company. Though the car was nicely done, it did have an error which was passed down from Intermountain's earlier made 'O' scale '37 AAR box car. The floor stringers are not in the proper location. I believe that the tool maker must have thought that the cars should have 3 stringers and before the 3rd one could be cut, decided to leave the remaining 2 stringers alone. This was unfortunate, as those remaining 2 are not correctly placed. After the sell of the IMWX tooling to Red Caboose, Intermountain felt compelled to offer their own '37 box car. While made well in some aspects, such as the separate ends, problems emerged with a big mistake in the roof panels (too wide) and furthering the repeated errors of the floor stringers. In addition, the bolsters were poorly designed and have made all cars with this frame to ride too high.

Later, Branchline Models made their only "shake-the-box" kit, also a '37 AAR box car. It has been mostly off the radar due to its molded on parts. This Yardmaster brand car is, however, a nicely tooled car. It has a very nice under frame of the earlier version of single floor stringers. The car side's rivets are very well done as well as the Murphy raised panel roof.

Some one could commit to a large project by filing off the ladders, grabs and end brake gear, such as what Richard Hendrickson did years ago with the Athearn 40' box cars. Side ladders are not too difficult to remove, but the end ladders, grabs and brake removal is a lot of work.

A positive design of the Yardmaster kit is that the ends are separate parts which means if another 4/5 end can be found, most of the grunt work is done, leaving just the sides to have their ladders relatively easily removed.

Since this Yardmaster kit has the earlier single floor stringers, I feel that these Yardmaster kits would be a useful project for a quality early '37 AAR box car. The earliest '37 cars had square corner ends so I looked into seeing if an end I was gifted from a friend years ago would work. Wayne Madison made his 4/5 end from Terry Wegmanns' 4/4 sq corner ends with which he did a lot of work to remove ladder brackets and adding the extra bottom 5th rib.

So now a quality kit bash of the Yardmaster '37 AAR box car using resin ends will make a car which has correct ride height, good roof and a nice correct, for early cars, under frame. Stan would approve, I am certain!

I now have a mold for the Wayne Madison end. I am offering a pair of these resin ends which fits the Yardmaster '37 AAR box car well. Price is $7 pair and includes a sprue of Red Caboose bracket grabs. I accept checks and with a small fee PayPal is welcomed. Sadly, the post office rates for 1st class mailing is somewhat expensive. Buyer will need to pay $4.80 shipping. Contact me of-list for details at <midcentury@...>

Do well, everyone
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CAInline image
Re: Photo: Inflammable Placard (1926)

Andy Brusgard <ajb1102@...>
 

Must be a car in LCL service.  Why else have a scale inside?
Re: Need broadside photo of OSL #3029-54 short caboose #3029-54

Andy Brusgard <ajb1102@...>
 

It is in the little details.
I like the way the corner is notched for hanging the markerlights
RP Cyc #35

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello Everyone,

RP Cyc #35, about the 1937 AAR boxcars is a real monster, at 384 pages. Much reading in this issue. There were 750 copies printed this summer and now only about 100 or so remain. They expect to be sold out by Thanksgiving. If you have been delaying ordering your copy, now is the time.

Thanks to everyone supporting this freight car publication.

If you still need a copy please contact me off list.

Rails Unlimited
Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120

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